Hyslop admission over T in the park

[rob murray]

oh noes 150 grand! a drop in the ocean... http://www.theguardian.com/business/...fends-1bn-loss

Did Osbourne personally profit ? What about Michelle Thomson SNP MP, she personally profited handsomely through dodgy property dealings......this one wont be swept aside....Rachmanite money grabber.

https://www.holyrood.com/articles/news/michelle-thomsons-suitability-mp-called-question-following-property-allegations

[Alien Adrenaline Reflex]

i think the diverting of attention is the other way around - backhanders? thats just fine then. if a company applies for a grant and is within the rules for getting it why should they not get it? its not a charity they are not looking for thew most deserving business to get grants simply the ones that best fit the criteria. it goes on all the time. look back tot he days of CASE there were successful businesses getting grants all the time becaus ethey were able to make a good case for getting it. the deservedness of the business is irrelevant. wherether they were able to properly fill in the application is what is the question. and whether there was any underhand dealing in the processing of that application is what matters. so you can rant on and on about them being profitable all you like but at the end of the day thats how grants work, they are not all fro struggling startup businesses. the comapny may have been able to get a grant in england as well and that would explain why they suggested that they could move the event there.

[rob murray]

i think the diverting of attention is the other way around - backhanders? thats just fine then. if a company applies for a grant and is within the rules for getting it why should they not get it? its not a charity they are not looking for thew most deserving business to get grants simply the ones that best fit the criteria. it goes on all the time. look back tot he days of CASE there were successful businesses getting grants all the time becaus ethey were able to make a good case for getting it. the deservedness of the business is irrelevant. wherether they were able to properly fill in the application is what is the question. and whether there was any underhand dealing in the processing of that application is what matters. so you can rant on and on about them being profitable all you like but at the end of the day thats how grants work, they are not all fro struggling startup businesses. the comapny may have been able to get a grant in england as well and that would explain why they suggested that they could move the event there.

ARe you seriously trying to tell me that T would have moved to England...well let them go as 80,000 people attend T...so some other festival organiser would have moved in......the crux is Hyslop has not come out and said exactly what the grant was for, and under FOI minsters decided not to divulge the circumstances...so Im not rantiing....whats there to hide.......the initial grant was for infrastructure assistance that was knocked back so apparently ended up for consultancy / transitional costs.....in other wirds they were getting 150k whatever....the circumstances behind the requirement were re jigged......

[BetterTogether]

Ok here's £150k we can work out how to make it look legit later but don't worry guv the monies a done deal leave the technicalities to us.

[rob murray]

Ok here's £150k we can work out how to make it look legit later but don't worry guv the monies a done deal leave the technicalities to us.

SPot on, in a oner, and under FOI it turns out ministers decided to keep details secret / undisclosed, the original grant application was for infrastructure and it was knocked back, this came out this at the hearing as contained within the 6oo pages released to Scanlon, so the initial grant application gets knocked back and they go and find another way / reason to apply ( succesfully ) stinks to high heaven...cannot be defended not forgetting of courses that Dempsie, a prospective MSP candidate sets the meeting up between T and Hyslop.................get real the SNP has its black sheep same as every party.....and the primary reason for "ranting" as teh geezer suggests...is....ITS OUR MONEY NOT THEIRS

[BetterTogether]

Funny how George Adams chair of the committee can tell the BBC it's all above board before he's even questioned Fiona Hyslop....whitewash much .....you really couldn't make it up !

[BetterTogether]

A nice bit of govt transparency here a part copy of the TITP foi request not that they have anything to hide.


Holyrood at its best the SNP showing us all what transparent government for the people looks like.

[BetterTogether]

As it seems that the guardian is the preferred news medium of choice for many thought this may be acceptable.


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...e-park-subsidy

[rob murray]

A nice bit of govt transparency here a part copy of the TITP foi request not that they have anything to hide.


Holyrood at its best the SNP showing us all what transparent government for the people looks like.

SOrt of reminds me of JFK released docs.......releasing stuff the night befoe under FOI, blanking out docs and also the fact that ministers ( plural ) were involved in the decision making process !!!

[BetterTogether]

SOrt of reminds me of JFK released docs.......releasing stuff the night befoe under FOI, blanking out docs and also the fact that ministers ( plural ) were involved in the decision making process !!!

Without being overtly cynical how far do you think it will be allowed to go, SNP virtually have a monopoly in Holyrood he chair is SNP he stated everything was in order prior to hearing a word from Hyslop then you have 620 pages of heavily redacted paperwork.

It's almost as good as the old soviet show trials.


"Nothing to see hear, move along "

[rob murray]

Without being overtly cynical how far do you think it will be allowed to go, SNP virtually have a monopoly in Holyrood he chair is SNP he stated everything was in order prior to hearing a word from Hyslop then you have 620 pages of heavily redacted paperwork.

It's almost as good as the old soviet show trials.


"Nothing to see hear, move along "

Nothing cynical here, hope the wider public sees through this obvious sheenanagan, just shows the old saying on power.....absoulte power absoluty corrupts and its bad for Scotland as a nation to have a virtual one party state......

[BetterTogether]

You couldn't make it up, after days of silence on Michelle Thomson apart from a nice squirrel picture for its front page yesterday today they've really gone and show Nationalist Paranoia at its finest.

Apparently TITP and Hyslop doing dodgy deals isn't down to her it's all Westminsters fault.

[rob murray]

You couldn't make it up, after days of silence on Michelle Thomson apart from a nice squirrel picture for its front page yesterday today they've really gone and show Nationalist Paranoia at its finest.

Apparently TITP and Hyslop doing dodgy deals isn't down to her it's all Westminsters fault.

BUll....the facts are that the original application was knocked back and ways were found to pay out the money for "other reasons" ( consultancy / transition fee's ) in other words come what may they ( T ) were going to get money. To claim its a westminster plot to discredit a proven duplicous liar...well thats nonsense.

[BetterTogether]

I agree but it is amusing to watch them imploding with self indignant paranoia St Fiona doing a dodgy deal .....NEVER


Cry freedumb it's them thar in Westmonster tha's doin it !

[BetterTogether]

It gets better Hyslop didn't read the report on TTIP prior to making the grant.


http://news.stv.tv/tayside/1329824-f...ark-state-aid/