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  1. 22-Sep-15, 23:18 #1
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    Default Scottish government commits to more compassionate social security system

    This is good news and builds on the work that the Scottish Government has already done around the independent living fund and the bedroom tax. It means that, once DLA is eventually devolved the Scottish Government will scrap the rule that removes the payment of DLA after a Child has been in hospital for 84 days. Excellent news

    http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Fai...fits-1d4b.aspx
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    Would that be the same as all the other things the SNP commit to but fail to deliver or are they actually going to do something more than blow hot air this time ?

    The issue you mention while very commendable only deals with a tiny minority of the population when will the SNP start to deal with the bigger more wider ranging issues instead of tinkering with minor issues.

    Maybe they should unfreeze the council tax instead of losing billions in a vote winning measure and actually do some good for society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidge View Post
    This is good news and builds on the work that the Scottish Government has already done around the independent living fund and the bedroom tax. It means that, once DLA is eventually devolved the Scottish Government will scrap the rule that removes the payment of DLA after a Child has been in hospital for 84 days. Excellent news

    http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Fai...fits-1d4b.aspx
    Yes thats putting to rights a genuine injustice and very well done, but a root and branch overhaul of the entire benefits system is needed...issue is all this "promises " for "fairness" needs paid for.....thats why we wont see anything of any real concequence from the snp as inevitably taxes will have to rise to pay for higher benefits and we scots wont like to fork out more in taxes eh ?? If so ...it will be a first
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    Here you go Rob this is from the Help to Adapt scheme showing the SNPs real compassion and commitment to free care for the elderly.
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    A bit more for your delectation
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    And another bit. Nothing like taking a piece of the action a bit like a spiv really don't do anything just take a handling charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterTogether View Post
    And another bit. Nothing like taking a piece of the action a bit like a spiv really don't do anything just take a handling charge.
    I dont get it, you mean they the government dont actuallly do anything but make a service charge ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterTogether View Post
    Here you go Rob this is from the Help to Adapt scheme showing the SNPs real compassion and commitment to free care for the elderly.
    Help to adapt : helping the edlerly adapt their homes....paid for from equity tied up in their homes...so they pay for it themselves and also pay a handling charge?? If thats the case its more sneaky double speak from the SNP. no doubt the squakers will be trumpeting how "compassionate" and fair they ( the SNP ) all are.....larceny thats what this is / sleight of hand stuff. All damn talk.... anti austerity..yeah yeah yeah as the song goes....wish theyd stop the pretence they are no more anti austerity than Nigel Farage is a euro fan !!!
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    Summing it up nicely they take something which is a statutory requirement. Put in a middle man and loan shark them take a slice of the pie for themselves.
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    This was in the Dundee Courier today, - http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/angus-the-mearns/frank-s-law-political-party-to-challenge-health-secretary-for-her-dundee-seat-1.901901


    http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/first-minister-slammed-after-saying-she-is-unable-to-make-hard-and-fast-commitment-on-frank-s-law-1.901784



    It is in regards to Frank Kopel, a former Dundee United player who was diagnosed with Dementia aged 59 and who sadly passed away last April.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterTogether View Post
    Summing it up nicely they take something which is a statutory requirement. Put in a middle man and loan shark them take a slice of the pie for themselves.
    Yep how very fair and compassionate they are being to the elderly.......they could do the same with benefits, pay increased benefits but only to house owners and grab the dosh back with % from the equity......then use the handling charges to top up benfits of the work shy.....problem solved and they can make dosh to....ingenious stuff
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    12% management fee ! £10,000 or work = £1200 fee ! Thanks very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cptdodger View Post
    This was in the Dundee Courier today, - http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/loc...-seat-1.901901It is in regards to Frank Kopel, a former Dundee United player who was diagnosed with Dementia aged 59 and who sadly passed away last April.
    Free healthcare but only if you're the right age for the illness you're suffering from otherwise it's no life jacket,no lifeboat fend for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cptdodger View Post
    This was in the Dundee Courier today, - http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/loc...-seat-1.901901

    It is in regards to Frank Kopel, a former Dundee United player who was diagnosed with Dementia aged 59 and who sadly passed away last April.
    A real united legend, sadly mistreated by another glaring and preventative loop hole in health care provision by the caring compassionate party......SNP....I hope robison gets the bloody boot...feckless uesless idiot...I cannot belive that time was spent in Holyrood discussing debating macaroni pies ....mind you thats about their level !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterTogether View Post
    Free healthcare but only if you're the right age for the illness you're suffering from otherwise it's no life jacket,no lifeboat fend for yourself.
    What...your seriously telling me the caring compassionate party could let this happen...I cannot believe it !!! I mean Scotland ( as independant ) is going to be a fairere more equal compassionate and caring country.....aye hot bloody air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidge View Post
    This is good news and builds on the work that the Scottish Government has already done around the independent living fund and the bedroom tax. It means that, once DLA is eventually devolved the Scottish Government will scrap the rule that removes the payment of DLA after a Child has been in hospital for 84 days. Excellent news

    http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Fai...fits-1d4b.aspx
    Maybe youd like to explain Frank Kopels situation....see below....if you can ....a gross act of negligence....caring / compassionate.....aye thatll be right
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    I have added another link in regards to Nicola Sturgeon -

    http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/pol...s-law-1.901784
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    I tend to ignore the recent batch of posts from a certain person as they tend to hide the reality of situations, toe the party line and in my view will probably be used in some future scramble to gain power. Someone is playing a long game so being disingenuous would be par for the course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cptdodger View Post
    I have added another link in regards to Nicola Sturgeon -

    http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/pol...s-law-1.901784
    A shameless madam....she and robson have screwed up the NHS...she knows she needs money to rectify the situation = higher taxes which she hasn't the bottle to implement
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    Reality is the SNP have deferred as much as they can but at some stage you have to stop deferring payments and putting things off and pay the bills. Holyrood and the Scottish Government has been in exsistence for 16yrs now 8 of which the SNP have been in power they can't keep blaming everyone else or previous parties for the problems now coming to the surface.
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