Corbyn Labour Leader

[BetterTogether]

This isn't about me old chap I don't purport to be a socialist !

I'm part of that 14.9% that have no say in Scottish Poliitcs because the SNP apparently speak for Scotland well all except the 14.9% I'm part of.

OH ! And Not the lib dem 7.9 % or the labour 24.3 % the others who apparently no longer exist.

Yes I'm part of that other 50% who haven't voted for any SNP policy and part of the 55% who voted against independence.

But don't worry I fully support any party that will bring the SNP to their knees and put them back into political obscurity where they so rightly belong.

So now I'm wondering what all the true socialists in Scotland will do !

Hang around a one trick political chameleon party with nothing to really offer except more abysmal failure.
Or
Go back to their traditional roots and actually try and make a difference within the whole UK rather than just their own backyards.

Isn't socialism about solidarity not division, supporting each other and cooperation not creating divisions and rifts. Not looking after yourselves but everyone else as well.

I shall look on with amusement as you tie yourself into knots trying to resolve yourself with Socialism 1 on 1 ie Corbyn or Divisive Tartan Tory Lite SNP.

[Redsnapper]

Yes indeed, I think it is about 'me' - in physics the stationary mass of an electron, in other words a negatively charged mass ; q.e.d methinks.

[rob murray]

I wonder how many of those flocking to Corbyn and the new old labour remember the 1970s and the unfathomable Joy the descended upon the nation as Labour had a field day doing everything they could for the average working person.

I would say a very small %....this is 2015 a new generation ie under 35's who have had nothing but cynical labour careerists a slighter shade of blue over them, who vote the least in lowest numbers...and can you blame them ? ...they dont remember the 70's, hell most werent event born then..( if you born in 1990 you are now 35...firtherning how time matches on ) .Corbyn won by a landslide and his meetings were stowed out ...why....because people ( and a lot of younger people ) were drawn to the message, this aint new labour. Judging by the status quo / accepted wisdom ie to gain power you must be centre rightish, the guy should have no chance....but I feel we are in new territory alomost SNP zeitigist territory, if his presence rids Labour of mild blue careerists ( who should be tories...or maybe they should re establish the SDP ) ,and attracts people who the "people" idenitify with, and puts the Labour party at the heart of "true people politics" then we have to wait and see the democtraic process at work, all arguements etc of the "bad old days" / 70's, militant tendendies etc are off as that was 40 years ago...people deal in the here and now, and here and now a lot of people are being badly dealt with.....also in the 70's never in a million years could a banking collpase we saw in 2008 ever have ocurred.....this I repeat is new territory......

[BetterTogether]

Today Mr Corbyn is starting to see the reality of being party leader. It's all very well being a man of principle when you never have any expectation of power, all of a sudden he finds himself in a position where he has power and has to be able to negotiate and compromise.

[rob murray]

Today Mr Corbyn is starting to see the reality of being party leader. It's all very well being a man of principle when you never have any expectation of power, all of a sudden he finds himself in a position where he has power and has to be able to negotiate and compromise.

Come in its day 3.........what do you expect.... lets see how he gets on or rather how Tom Watson gets on as he will be the wheeler dealer......

[rob murray]

This is a very insightful analysis of the situation/s facing Corbyn written by William Hague who should know a thing or to about being knifed in the back http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...eUIW&ocid=iehp


Basically Corbyn doesnt have the support of most of the parliamentary labour party and his cabinet is / will be strongly divided, yet he won a populist democtratic vote hands down, there is a huge gap between what Corbynites " expect" and what the PLP will support, a bit like Thatcher in 1979 / 81 period when her cabinet was full of wets / old style tory "non believers" it took her nearly 2 years to purge them and build her cabianet of believers and whip the party into line....so what is Corbyn going to do ? try and build consensus with non believers or purge and whip....a tricky one, if he calls it wrong, labours massive membershp intake will melt away as Labour will resort to new labour...divorced from the desires and aspirations of real people....restore new labour ( new new labour ) and they wil still lose 2020 elections and face losing a hell of a lot more seats. For cameron the actions of the PLP is a gift

Oh Labour membership is now over 340,000 with over 30,000 joining since corbyns victory