Congratulations to the prime minister

[BetterTogether]

The reality is the only class rubbish being thrown about is perpetuated by those who tend to be more left of centre its an easy target to raise the hackles and has no place in modern politics.

The vast majority of wealthy people are self made nowadays and come from the same places as everyone else.

Look at the attacks on JK Rowling sexist misogynitic taunts coming from one area only.

[squidge]

Absolutely go look at Mhairi Black's Twitter feed. I just spent a wee while scrolling through it and there is nothing to be scared to look at. BT you are right to point out the appalling attacks on JK Rowling, the dreadful homophobic sexist attacks on Ruth Davidson and the appalling mysoginistic behaviour of George Galloway towards Naz Shah are other examples. Attacks come from right across the board.

It's interesting that Mhairi Black gets hammered for saying it took all her effort not to "put the nut on" some particular no voters and yet the illustrious Jack McConnells tweet which said " if I meet a Tory, I'll (expletive deleted) boot them" is completely ignored. What is the difference? Except one said they hadn't done something and the other that they WOULD do something.

Don't tell me class comments come from the left only, if I had a pound for every time I had been told I should remember my place over the last few years. That I'm nothing but a "labour voter from Chadderton" so should shut up ;Or that because I "just work part time" I have no place "getting above myself" and speaking about politics. I would be a rich rich woman x

[BetterTogether]

There is good and bad on all sides non of which are acceptable but sadly the reality is the Cybernats have gone above and beyond the call of duty when it comes to trolling, from experience there is no machivellian trick they will not use to try silence a vociferous objector.

[davth]

So squidge, you find Mhairi blacks Twitter comments and references to violence acceptable ?

[rob murray]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ld-be-MPs.html

I would have pasted her Twitter feed but it would get me banned, it beggars belief that the SNP seen fit to put this type of person forward as a MP.The HBO show "this week tonight" found it hilarious.

I wouldnt qoute from a past article from the Tory bible, and sorry squidge dont agree with your post, Labour as a party in Scotland were a joke, although Douglas Alexander is a very respected and experienced uncontroversial politician, it should beggar belief that he lost so heaviliy to an unproven 20 year old student regardless of sex / class, I dont for one minute believe that people on the doorstep voted for her soley because she grew up in their community and understands their hopes and aspirations ( sounds kinda SSP to me ! ) you mean she toed the party line and spouted on about how the SNP are the real voice of the people, anti austerity, bringing hope back, the only party who can enable people realise their potential etc etc all sound good stuff ....a wee thing called independance also played a part ! The Douglas Alexander situation in itself should prompt Labour to have a full and open post mortem on what went wrong and what has gone wrong in Scotland as regards Labour, LD's need to do the same. Ive nothing against the girl, she won, and won very well,but something went very badly wrong for Douglas Alexanader to lose to an inexperienced 20 year old. Now she has to step up to the mark and being left of centre she will fully know and expect the barrage of abuse that as a left of centre MP she will undoubtably get. Oh....one last point, is the SNP gag / party line / whip at Westminster needed because as time will out, we will find some MP's way left of centre and some to the right, the SNP are united in the desire for independance, like every party politically, they have different shades of blue via pink to red.

[davth]

Facts are facts rob, she is a horrible creature

[rob murray]

Mhair Black connected with the people in the doorstep. Whatever you think of her appearance, her accent, her tweets, the fact remains that the People on the doorstep voted for her because they believed she understood their needs and their hopes and aspirations for the future. They saw a young woman who grew up in their community, speaks their language, went to their schools, worked hard to get to university, cares about the people on the doorstep and the issues important to them. She didn't squeak in by a whisker, she won 51% of the vote and she has a majority of over 5 thousand. Who cares what they say about her on US daytime television - is any daytime TV a paragon of taste and political acumen? She will grow and change and she will mature into the role she is in. I have no doubt that she will do her best to be the best she can be. Whether she will be good, bad or magnificent will remain to be seen but I'll tell you what - she is a brave brave lassie to stand tall in front of the insults and sexist and actually classist rubbish that will be thrown at her over the weeks and months. Fair play to her - I wouldn't have had the guts to do what she is doing at 20!

A bit "misty eyed" and misreprentative...Mhairi Black is the daughter of a business man and her mother is a teacher, a double income well to do comfortably off middle class family, and doesnt everyone work hard to get to university...can she speak the language of the poor, the dispossed, the marginalised, has she ever felt and lived in poverty, has she ever lived an existance remotedly near them ? Class insults...what damn class, come off it shes well off, she's no Rosie Kane thats for sure !!

[gleeber]

That's a bit unfair Rob. Jarvis Cocker knew the object of his analysis you don't. She comes over to me as very natural and she didn't have to be dragged up to have empathy for the common people. She's a confident young lassie and I for one wish her all the best.

[rob murray]

That's a bit unfair Rob. Jarvis Cocker knew the object of his analysis you don't. She comes over to me as very natural and she didn't have to be dragged up to have empathy for the common people. She's a confident young lassie and I for one wish her all the best.

OK best of luck to her, hope the peple who voted her in get "social justice"

[rob murray]

Facts are facts rob, she is a horrible creature

Graham Spiers ran a piece about her pre election and predicted that Douglas Alexander had a real fight on his hands, he was right.... twitter / facebook etc....I put down to youthful naivety and wont judge her on that, even though Im a Celtic fan ! Im willing to see what she delivers though, and standby my stance that she has no life expereince, came from a comfortable back ground and as a politics student..well ! She must be a good orator / connector / said the right things at the right time, as she won. Interesting that she claimed her family backgound was Labour and cites Keir Hardie as a political hero and slates new labour, as straying to far from "labour values"....a thought shared by many obviously as labour were destroyed in Scotland. WIthin the context of the UK if Blair hadnt "modernised" Labour then they would have been forever an opposition party. Seems in Scotland, this time around, the SNP came across as more in touch with or articulated core Scottish percieved traditional labour values...even though their track record is nowhere near as leftish as people think. So no I dont think shes horrible.

[davth]

Graham Spiers ran a piece about her pre election and predicted that Douglas Alexander had a real fight on his hands, he was right.... twitter / facebook etc....I put down to youthful naivety and wont judge her on that, even though Im a Celtic fan ! Im willing to see what she delivers though, and standby my stance that she has no life expereince, came from a comfortable back ground and as a politics student..well ! She must be a good orator / connector / said the right things at the right time, as she won. Interesting that she claimed her family backgound was Labour and cites Keir Hardie as a political hero and slates new labour, as straying to far from "labour values"....a thought shared by many obviously as labour were destroyed in Scotland. WIthin the context of the UK if Blair hadnt "modernised" Labour then they would have been forever an opposition party. Seems in Scotland, this time around, the SNP came across as more in touch with or articulated core Scottish percieved traditional labour values...even though their track record is nowhere near as leftish as people think. So no I dont think shes horrible.

Would that be the discredited journalist (sports) Graham Speirs? Who is renound for his inaccuracies

[rob murray]

Would that be the discredited journalist (sports) Graham Speirs? Who is renound for his inaccuracies

Yep the very man...but he was right.... he predicted that she would win and obviously she did, quite an inisightful piece actually... http://www.mhairiblack.scot/graham-s...for-the-times/

[Rheghead]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ld-be-MPs.html

I would have pasted her Twitter feed but it would get me banned, it beggars belief that the SNP seen fit to put this type of person forward as a MP.The HBO show "this week tonight" found it hilarious.

Is that all you got? A few off the cuff comments when she was 15?

[davth]

Is that all you got? A few off the cuff comments when she was 15?

So she mentioned restraining herself from nutting no voters a full 5 years prior to the referendum, several years prior to it being announced.Who is she Marty Mcfly?

[Rheghead]

So she mentioned restraining herself from nutting no voters a full 5 years prior to the referendum, several years prior to it being announced.Who is she Marty Mcfly?

OMG, she restrained herself from putting the nut on someone who doesn't see things her way. Sounds like she is human.

[davth]

So you find it acceptable for our politicians to speak in such a manner?Had David Cameron said similar would you back him?

[golach]

OMG, she restrained herself from putting the nut on someone who doesn't see things her way. Sounds like she is human.

Great representative for Scotland, I am glad I don't live in her constituency , what an embarrassment , not the type I would even share a drink with.

[davth]

Finally some non blinkered sense

[Rheghead]

So you find it acceptable for our politicians to speak in such a manner?Had David Cameron said similar would you back him?

She wasn't a politician then. She has a twitter feed that echoes her frustrations and aspirations from the age of 15 to the present day. She's angry, she still is angry at the way the coalition treated people. She shows passion. David cameron also resorted to expletives in the election campaign. So what?

[BetterTogether]

Yes a wonderfully middle class girl whose never suffered anything in her life except waking up with someone else's money after a night on the lash " theft by finding at best " totally outraged with vicarious anger at how the coalition have treated people. Mind there's always someone out there prepared to accept any sort of behaviour from the SNP just because it the SNP init guv'nor normal acceptable rules of behaviour don't apply when it comes to them.