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    Default The good news if the SNP do get a landslide victory at the polls

    Taking the every pundit is forecasting an SNP landslide at the forthcoming general election, for those of us who are not lovers of the SNP it may be disheartening to see this happen, but there is good news in amongst the potential bad news.

    Given that the country has already voted on the referendum and shown that the majority do not wish for independence it would be unwise for the SNP to go back on their once in a lifetime once in a generation promises and foist another referendum on the population of Scotland, then they would be viewed as no better than the EU forcing vote after vote until the get the decision they want.

    In the meantime there will be all the new powers coming into force.

    They now have 5 long years to try maintain their momentum and given the realities of their failed policies so far by that time the population will be able to see them for what they are Political Charlatans and chancers of the highest order no longer able to blame anyone else but themselves for the problems.

    I can sit back and relax knowing the SNP have hit the ceiling and the only way for them to go after this election is down.

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    Dream on. Promises are broken all the time in politics. You should know that.

    We won't be needing another referendum at this rate. Cameron and Milliband have did all the hard work for us. I have spoken to German, American, Welsh, English, Canadian and South African visitors these last 2 days. Every one of them mentioned their alarm and disbelief at the anti-Scottish sentiment coming from our Westminster politicians. The world is watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YummyMummy View Post
    I have spoken to German, American, Welsh, English, Canadian and South African visitors these last 2 days. Every one of them mentioned their alarm and disbelief at the anti-Scottish sentiment coming from our Westminster politicians.
    How did it come up in conversation?

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    Customers - genuinely interested in the UK General Election. Weather's rubbish, telly is on (NEWS channel) so they have a natter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by YummyMummy View Post
    I have spoken to German, American, Welsh, English, Canadian and South African visitors these last 2 days. Every one of them mentioned their alarm and disbelief at the anti-Scottish sentiment coming from our Westminster politicians. The world is watching.
    Can you give examples of this "anti-scottish" sentiment?

    Anti SNP is not anti-scottish.
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    Totally agree. Anti-SNP is not anti-Scottish. I have no problem with anti-SNP in this democracy. Just like anti-UKIP and anti-Tory are not anti-English.

    You/me/visitors know the difference too and to suggest there has been no anti-Scottish sentiment (I am assuming in your request for examples) are, with respect, at best misguided and at worse disingenuous. One thing is for sure in this unpredictable political climate we all find ourselves in, if our international guests to Scotland have picked it up and are commenting on it, it's not just a few "whiney nats".

    My sincere apologies if that is not what you meant.

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    The English were not anti-Scottish until the referendum and the rise of the SNP which is so anti-English. It's very sad. I'm not impressed by the record of either government but that's no reason to break up the United Kingdom which must be stronger united than divided.
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    On one in their right mind would stay in an ABUSIVE relationship and Scotland has been abused for far to long. Why don't the English admit their poor treatment for all the small nations and get some therapy. This would have gone a long way in helping heel the wounds, but Westminster use BULLY BOY tactics instead. As they say "you reap what you sow" . Scots mainly like most folk except the ones that would have you on your knees. Slavery and servitude comes in many forms and the oppressor never or rarely admit to the wrong doings. England should wake up and see the world has changed (it's not WW2 or the 1966 World Cup) . Give Scotland in rightful place and join hands as equal friends and not master and servant and stop this programme of FEAR. Long gone are those days and let's leave them to history and go forward together, before the relationship ends in divorce . So let's be good friends , respectful of each other and celebrate the differences we have ,and no more BULLYING .

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    The English were not anti-Scottish until the referendum and the rise of the SNP which is so anti-English. It's very sad. I'm not impressed by the record of either government but that's no reason to break up the United Kingdom which must be stronger united than divided.
    Absolute rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YummyMummy View Post

    You/me/visitors know the difference too and to suggest there has been no anti-Scottish sentiment (I am assuming in your request for examples) are, with respect, at best misguided and at worse disingenuous.
    I have no wish to misguided or not to be genuine.

    I am just really interested to hear what anti-scottish sentiment from Westminster politicians caused 'disbelief' and 'alarm' to these visitors from abroad.

    Again, can you provide examples?
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    who should we vote for????? the thing is if you vote for lib dem. you are voting for tory if you vote fro labour. you are voting snp. ukip i don't really know. the fact is politics is just another word for lie. they all promise the moon and the stars and give nothing they are only in it for themselves.by the way there is no need to reply this is just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterTogether View Post
    I can sit back and relax knowing the SNP have hit the ceiling and the only way for them to go after this election is down.
    Hmmm, don't know about that, maybe they'll put some candidates up in England next election & get even more seats...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterTogether View Post
    I can sit back and relax knowing the SNP have hit the ceiling and the only way for them to go after this election is down.
    Isn't it kind of sad that we live in a country where politics have come to life and we have Scottish people hoping the country fails just so they can be proved right?
    Is it dangerous or just plain stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gleeber View Post
    Isn't it kind of sad that we live in a country where politics have come to life and we have Scottish people hoping the country fails just so they can be proved right?
    Is it dangerous or just plain stupid?
    No, because that piece of opinionated rhetoric makes little sense.

    Staying in the UK is a success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gleeber View Post
    Isn't it kind of sad that we live in a country where politics have come to life and we have Scottish people hoping the country fails just so they can be proved right?
    Is it dangerous or just plain stupid?
    If a % of people can see through the SNP and recognise that even with 56 /59 MPS' they will have to deal with a majority government..and cannot make "demands", and a % of people recognise that our economy is just now not strong enough to handle FFA ( without realiging planned spending ) never mind independance, I would say said % are concerned over the future and not are hopeful that the country fails. There is more to Scotland than the SNP, people can hope the SNP MP's, fail / fall flat on their face exposing their lack of clout and over promises made at the election, which is a lot different than hoping the entire country falls flat. Look at it another way, there are ardent yessers who defy all economic logic...shout any sense down ....and they would rather live in a "free" what will almost certainly be an impoverished Scotland just so that they can be "right". Me...well there are 56 SNP MPS's so Im prepared to give it time to see what they can achieve or rather, and unfortunatly for alll of us, what the majority government lets them achieve. Its in everyones interests for them to achieve some kind of reforms favourable to Scotland but Sturgeons rhetoric isnt exactly helping the cause of the westminster MP's.

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