Reply With QuoteI fail to see any relevance with regards to our membership of the UK.
If anything, we could learn a lesson or two from England, where protestant and catholic communities live with a much higher level of harmony than they do in Scotland.
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1K.Orger
Orange Order Marches
The Orange Order are a registered organisation for the No campaign and they have approval for marches just a few days before the Scottish independence referendum. In your opinion, will this remind the people of Scotland what is best about the UK or about what is worse?
Last edited by Rheghead; 17-Jul-14 at 14:49.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
1K.Orger
I fail to see any relevance with regards to our membership of the UK.
If anything, we could learn a lesson or two from England, where protestant and catholic communities live with a much higher level of harmony than they do in Scotland.
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
1K.Orger
Well, the Orange Order certainly see some relevance.Originally Posted by theone
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
.Orger
don't you mean the religious bigots?
"I want to die peacefully in my sleep just like my grandfather did......not screaming in terror like his passengers"
.Orger
The orange order are nothing but a bunch of religious bigots and should have no place in decent society.
(stand back and wait for the hate mail)
1K.Orger
My point being that independent or not, the Orange Order and their marches will continue.
The orange order, although unionist, do not represent the UK. Indeed, they hardly exist in England or Wales.
The orange order in Scotland is very much a Scottish problem.
Maybe your original question should have been:
In your opinion, will this remind the people of Scotland what is best about SCOTLAND or about what is worse?
But then again, that wouldn't suit your agenda.
Last edited by theone; 17-Jul-14 at 15:53.
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
.Orger
Rheghead: It will show what is worst, not about the U.K. but religious bigotry being touted on the streets of Scotland.The Orange Order are a registered organisation for the No campaign and they have approval for marches just a few days before the Scottish independence referendum. In your opinion, will this remind the people of Scotland what is best about the UK or about what is worse?
I care not what any-ones professed Religion is. In my opinion there is too much religion and not enough belief.
1K.Orger
The Orange order are a sectarian ultra Protestant group, a purely Scottish/Northern Ireland problem. Nothing to do with the referendum, why bring this up Rheg, scaremongering maybeThe Orange Order are a registered organisation for the No campaign and they have approval for marches just a few days before the Scottish independence referendum. In your opinion, will this remind the people of Scotland what is best about the UK or about what is worse?
Once the original Grumpy Owld Man but alas no more
.Orger
Well golach at least you acknowledge that the Orange Order is a problem.
The relevance is: They (the Orange Order) profess to being a unionist group and have instructed all their members to vote no in the referendum.
We here in Scotland should have no place in our society for these religious bigots regardless of which way they vote.
1K.Orger
Bunch o numpties celebrating a Dutchman.
1K.Orger
“We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine....
And the machine is bleeding to death."
Banned
Or as they do here in Orkney.
Orange Order = Central Belt issue. Again something that has no relevance to us up in the North here.
Banned (Sock Puppet)
Absolutely reminds me what is wrong with Scotland mind I dinnae recall seeing any orange order marches up here a ways.
.Orger
As a catholic who has spent most of my 62 years living in both england & scotland it was not until abt 10 years ago that I realised that the Orange Order existed, never mind marched in Scotland. I have live maining on the east side of Scotland with no religious problems at all in either country.
I am sorry to say that the problems are mainly centred in & around Glasgow and not typical of the rest of Scotland.
1K.Orger
Oh is that so, then why have Police Scotland, granted them permission to march next weekend in Edinburgh, hope they are caught in the predicted rain storms.
Once the original Grumpy Owld Man but alas no more
1K.Orger
Edinburgh, Glasgow, same difference.
It's the south.
.Orger
The central belt is the main area where these marches take place but they do occur in other areas of Scotland.
Many years ago at school aged 13 (1978/9) i learned to play the "C" concert flute and was subsequently asked if i would like to join a flute band....Harthill & Eastfield flute band to be precise (Harthill/Eastfield being halfway between Glasgow & Edinburgh) and naive little me agreed to do so and after a few training practices i was enlisted for my first march. I played well and took part in a number of marches throughout the year all over the area and enjoyed the situation but the reality hit home when i realised what i was actually marching for. It wasn't just playing the flute in a band as i thought but it was religious protest marches for something which i had no knowledge nor understanding of and i soon left the band once the truth came out. To be fair, there was never any trouble, never any fighting nor even abuse or shouting, we simply marched through whichever town was promoting the march day, enjoyed the experience and had sandwiches and drinks at the end of it. There were many bands from all over the area, Northern Irish ones too and everybody got on well. Nowadays however seems to be a totally different situation.....hence my statement in the earlier post!
"I want to die peacefully in my sleep just like my grandfather did......not screaming in terror like his passengers"
.Orger
I think there is great surprise in edinburgh that it is going to be there. Maybe to go to Calton Hill & passed Holyrood. It is my understanding that there are no annual OO marches in Edinburgh.
1K.Orger
Well you understand wrong, they normally end up at the Meadows.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...arch-1-3479592
Last edited by golach; 18-Jul-14 at 15:05.
Once the original Grumpy Owld Man but alas no more
1K.Orger
I would like to think they are nothing to do with the referendum but their plan to hold what they describe as an anti independence march means they ARE to do with the referendum.
Having stepped into a conversation last weekend where I was asked my voting intentions and then was told I was naive and stupid by a man who described his decision to vote NO as being based on the fact that "I am a Protestant man of ulster descent and it's the 12th July - what else would I vote?" I drew the conclusion that some people fail to see the irony in the things they say. I stepped away pretty sharpish as my catholic husband takes exception to being called a taig.
Fortunately his pal realised that too much whisky had been drunk and guided him away and brought him back in the morning to apologise for his behaviour lol. We made him wear the chain mail as penance and run round the tent lol.
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