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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetheart View Post
    That's not true rheghead. There were 47 load bearing columns in the center
    of the structure that carried the dead weight load. They just disappeared
    apparently by your account and the NIST account... probably melted by
    a fusion warhead about the only thing with the power to do such a thing
    to such thick steels in such a short time.

    Here is a result of an engineering test i ran, the big rock is your 'foot' on
    a coke can. This failure is being caused by blowtorch as a previous
    fossil fuels fire could not cause any damage to the steel.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...l-wtc-bent.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/P1180023.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/P1180027.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...l/P1180005.jpg


    Yeah, but the can analogy holds to because the main load holders were on the outside, your backyard experiment hasn't faithfully recreated the load conditions seen on the day or in the structure.
    Last edited by Rheghead; 25-Mar-07 at 21:03.
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    Am I right in thinking that we have now escalated from a controlled demolition by conventional explosives to controlled demolition by thermo-nuclear device?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAWS View Post
    Am I right in thinking that we have now escalated from a controlled demolition by conventional explosives to controlled demolition by thermo-nuclear device?
    It sure looks that way, I think it would be better if they coordinated their efforts to be a least consistent...
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    ...thousands of responders and New Yorkers are dying from numerous types of cancers...
    Cause.......

    Doctors say the cancers can strike three to five years after exposure to toxins such as benzene, a cancer-causing chemical that permeated the WTC site from burning jet fuel.
    Thermo nuclar device eh? Where's Steven Seagal when you need him?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheghead View Post
    The explanation is fairly straightforward if I give you an example.

    It is possible that a light person can stand on top of an empty Coke tin if they stand carefully. If someone just happens to touch the can slightly and assymetrically on the side of the can then the can will crush symetrically. The disturbance doesn't need to be a lot, just a redistribution of the load will cause collapse. The WTCs were like a coke can, all the weight was mainly on the outside edges. In fact the hardest thing for them to do was to topple over as there wasn't any side ways force acting upon them.

    In other words, the fuel and materials weren't needed to soften a large part of the framework to bring it down, just a small part to start the load redistribution process with all the weight above. I thought you were an engineer?
    I tried it, it doesn't work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheghead View Post
    It sure looks that way, I think it would be better if they coordinated their efforts to be a least consistent...
    Like the clique does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheghead View Post
    It sure looks that way, I think it would be better if they coordinated their efforts to be a least consistent...
    "If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, againandagainandagainand..."

    What was the old saying about Monkeys, Typewriters and Shakespeare?
    Personally I would recommend purchasing a published version as the chances of any of the others ever making sense could take most of this millennia.

    And I thought my Klingon Bird of Prey was being a daft idea, suddenly it sounds quite sensible by comparison!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    I tried it, it doesn't work.

    Oh well, it works for me, perhaps you are assymetrical, you are fixing my experiment or it just goes to show that backyard experiments just don't recreate the build conditions of the WTCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Like the clique does?
    What is that about a clique? What clique?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheghead View Post
    Yeah, but the can analogy holds to because the main load holders were on the outside, your backyard experiment hasn't faithfully recreated the load conditions seen on the day or in the structure.
    Why did the buildings fall at freefall speeds?

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    They didn't - only the TruthTwisters claim that...

    http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkman View Post
    Why did the buildings fall at freefall speeds?
    What is the 'normal' fall speed of a 110 storey building? And how does it compare to the WTCs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    I tried it, it doesn't work.

    Did the contents work Fred? It says Brain and Body Energy on the tin. Where do you get this "ape" drink from anyway? ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheghead View Post
    What is the 'normal' fall speed of a 110 storey building? And how does it compare to the WTCs?
    I haven't got a clue but freefall means no resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkman View Post
    Why did the buildings fall at freefall speeds?
    Well, they WERE free and they WERE falling. "Science made Easy" by Johnny Bollock ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkman View Post
    I haven't got a clue but freefall means no resistance.
    OK, you don't know, an honest answer, neither do I. Until we have something to compare with we will never know if there was anything different about the WTCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scorrie View Post
    Well, they WERE free and they WERE falling. "Science made Easy" by Johnny Bollock ;o)
    I take it john inman was in the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    I tried it, it doesn't work.

    Yeah, but thats only because you used a Lucozade tin and not a coke tin.
    Everybody knows that Lucozade tins dont have the 47 load bearing columns in them that coke tins have,

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    All I can surmise is that even if the steel melted like butter on the top floors I can't quite get my head around the fact that the bottom floors crumpled like a concertina?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkman View Post
    All I can surmise is that even if the steel melted like butter on the top floors I can't quite get my head around the fact that the bottom floors crumpled like a concertina?
    I seem to remember that there were quite large sections of the outer walls still intact iow they weren't all crumpled like a concertina. Though I don't believe any columns melted like butter.
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