Reply With QuoteSNAP! most of the time I have no idea what you are talking about!Originally Posted by squidge
1K.Orger
And the hard line socialist venom?
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SNAP! most of the time I have no idea what you are talking about!
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Oh Mrs Bradey thats a shame. I know some of these issues are quite complex although I tried to keep it simple. Maybe you would like to say which bits of my posts you dont understand and maybe someone else can pick it up and explain for you. Unless what you REALLY mean is you dont agree...
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Rather a smug and demeaning way to address someone a typical example of the way hard line socialist like to try and belittle people who disagree with them .....venom. I have no need to back trawl through your previous post and disseminate the numerous times you've addressed the org like some komissar throwing about diktats of how an Independent Scotland would be free fair everything you could ever wish for will be provided by the state. Its almost delusional in 2014 more suitable for the 1970s when people of a similar mentality nearly bankrupt this country and started so many of our current social ills.
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Meanwhile at the TSB ...http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...-urged-3168327
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do you believe everything the papers say, will you be returning to england come sept when its a yes vote
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IF they do, then the Org will be an awfy quiet place methinks....
"I want to die peacefully in my sleep just like my grandfather did......not screaming in terror like his passengers"
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Well nice to see you're always such a positive force for debate or do you want the other 825,000 who weren't born in Scotland to go home as well and maybe you have issues with the SNPs immigration policy because if you only want Scottish born in Scotland you'll have plenty of jobs but no one will want to come here . Then you will see your economy go down the tubes, your pensioners suffering ,your hospitals with a shortage of staff ,no inward investment.
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i aint bothered were you choose to say but seems to me you just want to bring scotland down yet chose to stay here why is that
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There is a difference between not wishing to see Scotland go independent and bringing the country down, that simple concept seems totally lost on you.
The mere fact 825000 people who weren't born here have decided to live in Scotland says a lot, but where will you go to live when the vote doesn't go the way you want ?
I mean 825000 is nearly a fifth of the population of Scotland then detract those who are to young to vote and the fact current polls are running at 47% for No compared to 37% for Yes I'm wondering if you're just frustrated that things aren't going your way have you ever been outside Scotland ?
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yes i have been outside of scotland, i have nothing against anyone coming to stay in scotland. now why are you so against independence, and why is westminster so keen to keep scotland.
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I have nothing against Scotland being independent per say what I do have issues with is the facts the SNP do not seem to have got their act together enough to have thought through the process properly and therefor have issues with what would happen after Independence did happen. I've lived in other countries can speak different languages so foreign countries aren't an issue but who wants to live in a country where the government can't even get its facts right before they start off. Now answer me why are you so keen on Independence what do you think will be gained ? More than a one sentence grunt would be appreciated :0))
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I've heard that my Historic Scotland and Scottish National trust membership won't be recognised by English Heritage etc after independence so I won't be able to go free to English historic sites.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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I haven't heard that, tbh........but I'd not be at all surprised if they join in with the foot stamping and pouting of Westminster!
If you want to get into English National Trust properties in a reciprocal arrangement, as currently exists with the Scottish National Trust, without being an English National Trust member.... I'd advise moving home and joining the equivalent associations in Australia, Bermuda, The Bahamas, Barbados, Canada, Cayman Islands, Guernsey, Isle of Man, Jersey, Malta, New Zealand, Italy, Zimbabwe or the USA ( where you can join the Royal Oak Foundation.).
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From what I've seen the only people foot stamping and pouting are Mr Salmond and Ms Sturgeon.....we want a currency union......no you can't have that.....you're bullies........we want straight in the EU....its not that easy....you're bullies ....its getting a bit repetitious the constant whineing about everyone else being wrong and being bullies but seems Mr Salmond didn't get plan A right let alone a credible contingency plan just in case he didn't get exactly what he wants. I guess that's what happens when you have a second rate politician trying to put his name in the history books... The only word that will be written by his name after the referendum is Failure !
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How is the suggestion that Mrs Bradey says what she doesnt understand so someone else can answer her venemous?
Dear God Almighty ... Can you hear yourself? When did wanting a better life for people brand me a Kommisar? When did the opinion that independence offers us- the voters an OPPORTUNITY to create something better, the opportunity to design a welfare state that supports people into work rather than sanctions them for utterly ridiculous reasons make me delusional? When did the opinion that we should strive to create a society which isnt the third most unequal society in the West make me some sort of political pariah? Is it only me that thinks this is a shocking statistic?
Ragnar honey, you can stamp your feet, spit out the word socialist like its a swear word and keep on deliberately mis representing what i say as much as You like. I'll make it easy for you here it is...
AN INDEPENDENT SCOTLAND OFFERS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A SOCIETY THAT IS FAIRER AND MORE EQUAL THAN THE SOCIETY WE LIVE IN TODAY. I DONT BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS PART OF THE UK. WE WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IN AN INDEPENDENT SCOTLAND MONEY RAISED HERE WILL BE SPENT ON THE PRIORITIES DECIDED BY US WHEN WE VOTE IN OUR SCOTTISH GOVERNMENT. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNDER THE CURRENT SYSTEM.
So there you have it. I will continue to post answers to people's questions either for them or for others that might read them, i will continue to share my opinions. You can get on with frothing at the mouth Rags, I'll get on with just being me...
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That's right Squidge have a little Ecky Fit as I've said before whose version of fair are we talking about. You are stamping your feet, flag waving again but once again you've no proof any of what you've said will happen just what you would like or what you hope for, but no proof of it. Not a shred. As for answering peoples questions if the SNP had done their job competently those questions would of been answered in the white paper, or are you suggesting you are some kind of oracle for a possible New Scotland able to see into the future and foretell what the politicians of the future are going to do .Maybe possibly you have a hotline to the Eck himself and have insider knowledge or is it as i surmise your view based entirely on your view .I'm not frothing at the mouth more amused by your delusional rantings based on your opinion nothing more nothing less. Of course you'd like more social spending your job depends on it so who wouldn't want all these things when they have a vested interest. But not once do you mention where all the money is going to come from to pay for all this social engineering. Higher Taxation, building up a healthy fiscal deficit would be another would be my guess. By the way you are an I not us speaking in the third party can be misconstrued as a sign of some types of health issue. Carry on Kommisar. Oh and no need to shout. :0))
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Now Squidge, that is a real Ecckky fit
Last edited by golach; 23-Feb-14 at 00:33.
Once the original Grumpy Owld Man but alas no more
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Pram and toys spring to mind !
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Bloody right toys out of pram!
Ragnar The proof is there in the figures that show health inequalities in the UK, that show the numbers having to use foodbanks, the figured that show that in some places benefit sanctions are 400 % higher than two years ago, in the figures that show the rate of appeals where the original decision was overturned, in the rates of breast fed babies, in the figures showing youth unemployment, in the figures showing hospital admissions where malnutrition was a factor. Proof is in the figures that show the number of people who are homeless, in the number of people who are on housing waiting lists, in the number of people on zero hours contracts; proof is in the figures which show only 20% of people with learning disabilities have jobs, in figures which show how cancer survival rates vary, in plans to charge people for appealing against benefit decisions. The proof is there if you are not too blind to see it.
As for what proof I have that an Independent Scotland will deliver a better fairer society? None. What proof do I have that a fairer society is not possible in the UK? Well... See all of the above. What i DO have is the knowledge that in an Independent Scotland it will be up to those people who live here and work here for the first time. That fact means that the OPPORTUNITY is there for us to choose something different. That opportunity does not exist in the UK today because you cannot put a pin between the political parties. Are you really saying that independence does NOT offer the opportunity for change! Can you prove that lol!
I accept that for you NONE of the issues that i mentioned above are of any interest to you. I dont understand that but hey i dont really care
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