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    When Scotjand votes for an Independent future next September the 3 big questions Europe, NATO, and the pound will obviously be settled through negoitation. Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.

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    As much as I support the Yes camp, I have to be honest piratelassie and say these threads that you start are becoming tedious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    When Scotjand votes for an Independent future next September the 3 big questions Europe, NATO, and the pound will obviously be settled through negoitation. Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.
    IF piratelassie, if, not when. It is not a foregone conclusion by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    ...Scotjand
    Never heard of it

    negoitation.
    What's that- Jim Crow laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sids View Post
    Never heard of it



    What's that- Jim Crow laws?

    Steady sids lad it is well after 6pm and it is Saturday night afterall. Hic up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    When Scotjand votes for an Independent future next September the 3 big questions Europe, NATO, and the pound will obviously be settled through negoitation. Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.
    It's a big IF for starters Mr Van Rumpoy said some very interesting things regarding new countries which used to be parts of larger countries ie Scotland and Catalonia. NATOs position is reasonably clear unless the no ask no tell rules are played which would be gross hypocrisy and alas the Pounds position has been quoted as highly unlikely. That's an awfully lot of negotiation for a new country to undertake with no guarantees for success. Unless you of course accept everything Europe asks accept the Euro and all the other rules new members have to accept. Which then puts point three about the Pound as a moot point. You can't have both. Lets see NATO Scotland says no to nukes that'll upset the USA so bang goes NATO as well.

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    These threads are as transparent as leggings on a fat girl
    W.A.T.P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mi16 View Post
    These threads are as transparent as leggings on a fat girl
    Stoppit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    When Scotjand votes for an Independent future next September the 3 big questions Europe, NATO, and the pound will obviously be settled through negoitation. Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.
    Should we really be part of the EU? The diktats from Brussels will be as onerous as those we currently tolerate from Westminster. NATO is largely influenced and controlled by the USA and it is not going to be happy with the SNP's attitude to nuclear, there's every possibility they'll dismiss Scotland as a nonentity. The pound and our use of it in international transactions will be controlled by the Bank of England so this alone rather negates the bid for independence. The negotiations are not a forgone conclusion, Brussels, Westminster and Washington could just turn their back on us; they all have more important issues to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.
    I do !!!! You have not got a snowballs chance
    Once the original Grumpy Owld Man but alas no more

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    When Scotjand votes for an Independent future next September the 3 big questions Europe, NATO, and the pound will obviously be settled through negoitation. Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.
    http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-qu...-much-methinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    When Scotjand votes for an Independent future next September the 3 big questions Europe, NATO, and the pound will obviously be settled through negoitation. Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.
    Negotiation relies on two or more willing participants. There has to be something in it for all parties. My feeling is that GB will be so hacked off by then, they will just offer a giant " Up yours". The incumbant UK government has to try to get re-elected afterall and is very likely to reflect the attitude of the voters. I can see a long period where the Scots will be as welcome as rabies in a dogs home in the UK.

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    Mind what you also have to consider is do the sums still work.Scotland has oil and gas but now we know its actually cheaper to buy American shale gas and then Scottish oils not so cheap either. That has to throw an awful lot of the pro independence campaigns fiscal policies Into turmoil as it would appear that the independence lobby are banking on oil and gas revenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RagnarRocks View Post
    Lets see NATO Scotland says no to nukes that'll upset the USA so bang goes NATO as well.
    I know is only wild speculation (which is always good on here! ) in the Daily Mail, but there is an interesting paragraph in this report....

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533846/Battle-stations-Navy-scrambles-destroyer-challenge-Russian-warship-British-coast-takes-24-hours-make-600-mile-journey-Portsmouth-base-Putin-testing-response-time.html

    ....saying;

    ‘The Russians may also be inspecting nuclear installations in Scotland, with a view towards the independence referendum. Certainly the Russians would see the country as more vulnerable if it were no longer part of Britain.
    ‘The approach was part of a pattern of behaviour, and the action is more threatening when considered in this context.



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    The only home ruling that goes on in my house is what the wife says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billmoseley View Post
    The only home ruling that goes on in my house is what the wife says.
    GO Mrs Moseley !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orkneycadian View Post
    I know is only wild speculation (which is always good on here! ) in the Daily Mail, but there is an interesting paragraph in this report....

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533846/Battle-stations-Navy-scrambles-destroyer-challenge-Russian-warship-British-coast-takes-24-hours-make-600-mile-journey-Portsmouth-base-Putin-testing-response-time.html

    ....saying;

    ‘The Russians may also be inspecting nuclear installations in Scotland, with a view towards the independence referendum. Certainly the Russians would see the country as more vulnerable if it were no longer part of Britain.
    ‘The approach was part of a pattern of behaviour, and the action is more threatening when considered in this context.


    Lol! Does just go to show that what we are pumping into Westminster on defence would be better used to defend ourselves.and would cost us a third less! More secure and safer as part of the UK...yeah, right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddquine View Post
    Lol! Does just go to show that what we are pumping into Westminster on defence would be better used to defend ourselves.and would cost us a third less! More secure and safer as part of the UK...yeah, right!
    Precisely!. If Putin had decided to declare war on Scotland, theres a shed load of damage that could be done by that particular missile boat before any retaliation could occur and i'm sure the scrambled planes would have had it rough too. Not to mention that the rest of the Russian fleet were on operations not too far away!

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    Of course there are never any subs lurking close by that the RN will admit to.

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    Where's the rest of the thread?????

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