That is absolutly ridiculous, they are supposed to be getting the criminals who mug old ladies and rob peoples houses but they chase motorist for a dead tail light or a bald tire. They are useless.
Yet another waste of police time
Hunting down the ever increasing criminals seems to have to Northern Constabulary yet again wasting their time on petty crime if this is a crime.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050319/17/fek3d.html they obviously don’t have enough motorists to hound in Orkney or any other easy catches.
That is absolutly ridiculous, they are supposed to be getting the criminals who mug old ladies and rob peoples houses but they chase motorist for a dead tail light or a bald tire. They are useless.
1K.Orger
Hmmmm? I wonder how many lives have been saved by road traffic law enforcement? Unquantifiable, I guess?Originally Posted by Playgirl
If a kiddy ran out in front of a car that had bald tyres and was killed. Do you think there will be many lamentations to the effect of 'It is a God-send she wasn't kidnapped instead. We will have to credit the police for their pro-active zero tolerance sex fiend policy'?
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Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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So what you're saying is, the police have to sit around waiting for more serious crimes to establish? If there were no other crimes to attend to on Orkney then why not find out what was going on. After all he has broken the law. Stuff old viking laws, we are in the year2005.
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Banned
Has he though?
Quote from article
The case was proven in 1910 by a Kirkwall lawyer who, accompanied by his friend, the Procurator-Fiscal, went out to Harray Loch and shot a swan. The case went to the High Court and the Crown lost.
Nowadays, Orcadians do not shoot swans, but the principles of the old Norse Udal Law still stand.
end quote
Where do I find out which old laws are no longer valid? Or do they stand until they get modernised
.Orger
Yet another waste of police time
The law about swans is an English one. It was made long before the union and surely does not apply in Orkney. Anyway is Hydro Electric being charged, afterall it was their overhead cables that killed the swan. Or was it a wind turbine??
.Orger
Just to clarify:
The Mute Swan, under British Law, (I won't go into the Udal bit) is considered the property of the Queen.
The Whooper Swan, the bird in question, is an Icelandic breeding bird that is a protected species. Nothing to do with the Queen.
Ian.
1K.Orger
ok maybe this is the american in me ... but its a bird for crying out loud.. fine theirs a law against shooting them.. thats fine.. they are a protected animal and therefor can not be hunted.. it wasnt hunted it was found dead.. so what he decided to eat it?
IT IS A BIRD!! whats next you cant eat chicken cause its reserved for the royals?
ever heard of a democracy?
im guessing since God personally chooces who sits upon the thrown *gag cough*
that He decreed certain things may only be served to those he deems most worthy?
why are they harassing that old man?
my poor little american mind just cant get around it! sighs and goes off into her little dream world..
1K.Orger
I'm with you Brandy - another example of good old british justice! I wonder if the is case will go to court to be paid for by the tax payer. If it does, the old man should get RIR to be his lawyer, as he seems to know more about it than our upholders of the law.
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.Orger
The sooner we've rid our country of the royal family, the better.
If the bird is protected, what gives the queen the right to eat it? Is the royal family allowed to bend and break whatever law they see fit or is it just the queen.
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I doubt if the Queen has ever tried it.
I have a medieval recipe somewhere in the hoose for cooking swan. I will try to dig it out if anyone is interested?
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It isn't just swans, there's whales as well, every whale in British waters, including dead
ones washed up on the beach, are the property of the crown I believe.
1K.Orger
And salmon I think?
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Seriously, who cares? It's a flipping swan, if the man is hungry let him smee!
.Orger
Are they still allowed to hang sheep rustlers under the old laws??? or is it just sheep worriers?
Captain Smee
1K.Orger
seems like the law of certain species only belonging to the royal family has been left over from medieval times. For goodness sake, there would be a real royal hulubuloo if these dead whales and swans were delived to the doorstep of buckingham palace - Here you are, Queenie, they belong to you - do with them what you will! Alternatively, since these creatures belong to her, why is she not sent a bill for their disposal? And surely dead swans are better in some one's belly than left to rot in the countryside. The mannie should be paid for removing it.
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
Swans are protected under royal decree. WHALES dinna seem til belong til anybody but if ye want til deliver a dead one til a Queen I can see you having a very large logistical problem.
1. Who do you get to deliver it?
2. Delivery charges will be very expensive?
3. Will a Royal Guard allow you to deliver it?
4. Who's gonna sign for it?
.Orger
The police did not know the bird had been killed by power lines, for all they knew the guy could of shot the bird himself. They acted as they are meant to do and I don't think they can be criticised for it.
I'm with Donnie on this one.
This talk of swans being the property of the crown is simply a amusing diversion. He's not being investigated for stealing the Queen's bird, he's being investigated under the Wildlife and Countryside Act because the swan in question is a protected species.
As for this being a 'waste of police time'. What utter nonsense. The killing of a protected species is against the law. That you do not consider it a 'real' crime, Goldfish, is beside the point. You don't get to choose which crimes the police enforce and which they don't.
1K.Orger
How come Swans get killed by power lines while starlings can quite happily sit on them? Or are they prone to be killed by a non electrical means? Could it be the swan died by some other way?
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