Edge of the World Festival 1997

**K dragon** · 04-Feb-07, 19:06

viewfirth field is open, so too many entry points and its next to an estate,
the rugby pitch is a good one, but again too many exit points.

zebedy, the harbour is too close as is the beach. that and drink dont go well.

good suggestions.

at the mo, the rugby pitch looks best.

keep em coming!!

**Metalattakk** · 04-Feb-07, 19:15

Sorry to ask, but what's the beef with exit points? Why is it bad to have too many?

Obviously, I'm missing something here...

**zebedy** · 04-Feb-07, 21:06

what about the bit of land that doesnt get used beside the garage as u come into Thurso from Glengolly...

Get a bunch of folk to flatten down all that long grass or higher counsil to cut it. ??? the land inbetween Dunbar and the Garage

**zebedy** · 04-Feb-07, 21:09

Or hows about up at the naiver football pitch? ( duno if ud be allowed to have the gig on the actualy pitch wud be cool though a massive mosh in there ) hee hee

Or the big playing field beside it?

**zebedy** · 04-Feb-07, 21:11

the caravan site just before u get to the weigh inn?

thats a huge bit of ground.

yes beside cliff, but is there anywere that doesnt have a risk?

dont think so?

**zebedy** · 04-Feb-07, 21:19

if its looking to finish at 10

why not have it in the pre sinct... i canna spell that~!

but u know were i am!

out side woolys

**K dragon** · 04-Feb-07, 21:43

the exit points is a payment issue, we really need the profit for next years gig.

and last year even though the concert was free, folks were climbing over the dammie walls to avoid paying. its not a big deal, im not money grabbing or anything but a little profit would be nice lol

also we cant hold the gig near the cliffs or rivers, safety issues and high hieghts and alocohol never went well together, same with harbours.

i too thought of naver inside the cage. would be cool, but trucks across astro turf, and the estate directly next to it.

cant flatten land or cut it, as believe it or not, such stuff requires licenses and red tape.

its very awkward.

any other suggestions?

**zebedy** · 04-Feb-07, 21:58

heck u need a permit to cut sum grass!

Wat has this world come to

everything comes down to a dottted line!

im still brain stormin

ive come to a stand still!

U had any other thoughts ure self K dragon
wat u thinkin Pre sinct?

**zebedy** · 04-Feb-07, 22:01

the playing field by frasers shoppy?

**Jeid** · 04-Feb-07, 22:30

If you're having to pay to get in, you're gonna have more security than last year which also means that there's less chance of problems like last year.

Millbank would probably not be the best place in the world. It's very very open. A touch of wind and the sound will be difficult to control.

**zebedy** · 04-Feb-07, 23:31

thurso east were they used to have the county show years and years ago

shurly u cud do sutin about that one K dragon

**Metalattakk** · 05-Feb-07, 00:13

Might as well have it out at Scrabster, Zeb! Just as far away!

I quite like the idea of outside the Town Hall though. Saw Boss Hogg playing there a few years back, for some Gala thing. OK, so the same issues arise about neighbours and exit points, but then the exit point problem was covered earlier - just have more staff/policing. You can always sell tickets beforehand too. Just gotta be pro-active. Finish around 10pm and everything's alright with the nearby housing too.

Naver field would have the same problems that Jeid has outlined for Millbank field- it's windy as

up there. Half the rigging would end up in Oslo. Plus it's a sand based surface and the weight of any trucks/stage would cause a lot of damage, I reckon. The field next to it is constantly waterlogged these days, even during summer.

**K dragon** · 05-Feb-07, 01:50

town hall and precinct require a lot pf permission from police and what not.

also means closing roads at the town square (new year) or outside the town hall.

keep em coming, glad to see the enthusiasm!

**theone** · 05-Feb-07, 06:58

The dammies for me.

The reasons against this venue seem to be:

1) Near to the river. Scared of people getting drunk and falling in etc.
2) Many gates/Lots of ways in, i.e. hard to stop people sneaking in for free.
3) Near to housing, therefore would need to end by 10pm.

In my humble opinion....

1) Near the river is not a problem at the dammies. It is not as if you are standing at the edge of the water. I went to the Thurso New Year street party this year and got ridiculously drunk. Nobody stopped me being allowed to cross the bridge on my way home.

2) You have the gate at the toll gallery, the roadway at the shell station, the gate at the end of the elland bridge and and the main entrance at Sir Archibalds road. 4 entrances = 4/8 money collectors. Not many in my opinion. Most people would use these entrances and be willing to pay a couple of pounds without question. Those who "jump the wall" or sneak in otherwise would be a minority, mostly kids and even those who weren't, what's the harm? A couple of potential pounds lost because of the minority is going to move a gig to out of town, where VASTLY less people would attend? Moving would be cutting off one's nose in spite of one's face methinks.

3) Near to housing. Valid point. This would result in the gig being restricted to a 10pm finish. However as I said before that's not necessarily a bad thing:

Originally Posted by theone

Moving out of town would be a bad decision in my opinion. People would walk to the dammies (especially from the pubs), Viewfirth, maybe even the high school fields. Ask them to walk the same distance past the weigh inn and they won't.

I'd rather see a show finishing at 10pm in the town than one after midnight outside. Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd, and I don't think you'd get a great deal from outside the music scene attending a gig at scrabster farm.

Metallattakk agrees:

Originally Posted by Metalattakk

And that's basically the bottom line.

Absolutely. A 10pm finish in town and everyone (except the musos

) can still off to Skins like we all know they want to anyway.

And let's face it - is the gig to be just for the musos or for the average punter?

There would be nothing worse than seeing half of the Skinandis loyal leave at quarter past eleven before the "Headliners" came on at midnight. I think that would ruin the mood of the event and therefore my view of it's intents.

My view of the aims and intents of the event:

(I seem to like putting numbers against things in this post!)

In no particular order.....

1) Give local bands a chance to play to a crowd which otherwise they could not.

2) Give Joe Public a view of local music which he might otherwise have not seen.

3) Earn a few pound for the town.

I think a show, on the dammies, charging a couple of quid at the gates would meet all these aims because:

1) Musicians love playing, and love playing to a crowd. That is why they play for free at these events.

2) That way, touch wood, a "music scene" might develop in Thurso that has been missing for at least a decade. Ask any 30 something (or maybe 40 something nowadays) of a night out in Thurso 20-25 years ago. Everyone of them will tell you of dancing to local bands. I'd love to see that again.

3) I'm all for that, but moving out of town just to "police" the gate better would cost more punters than it would save in free loaders. At the end of the day, with the vast majority of people involved working for free (the bands, the organisers, the stewards etc) I can't see how this could fail to make a profit, and any pound made is a bonus. I sneaked into the county show many times as a child and I don't think any likeminded kid nowadays would be stopped doing the same. It'd be like banning coppers at the gala because 5p's are worth more.

Not being brief: I don't want to see the format change, for the good of the reasons I've said above.

I think I've answered all the reasons for a change of venue and provided my own valid reasons for keeping it as is.

K dragon. I admire your willingness and devotion to planning this event and hope it succeedes in every way. But........