Bull Breed Defenders

[gary.b]

I was just wondering what the forum members thought of this
http://bull-breed-defenders.org.uk/
I'm on the fence on this one....

[Liz]

I confess that I don't know much about this breed but my thoughts are that many dogs who are classed as 'dangerous' are the result of bad ownership.
In the case of pitbulls so many of these poor dogs are used for dogfighting so are trained to kill.
I see that the RSPCA have carried out many raids to rescue such dogs.

Any dog who is not trained or disciplined has the capacity to cause harm.

It makes me sad to see these dogs 'demonised'.

[gary.b]

I agree Liz, any dog whether trained or not can cause harm, it just so happens that these breeds are bigger and more powerful and can cause more damage than say a little Jack Russel Terrier. Opps, didn't stay on the fence for long... ban the deed not the breed, doh! did I say that out loud.

[Liz]

Glad you came off the fence. Can get pretty painful sitting there!

Yes I agree with your point about these being a more powerful breed.
I just wish there was a way to stop dogs like these 'getting into the wrong hands' but,sadly, I can't see this being possible.

I think with lots of people they don't research what dog would be best for their lifestyle and that's why are there are so many unwanted dogs in shelters.

I don't know what the answer is do you?

[changilass]

If it was just that they are bigger and stronger than say a yorkie, why then are the likes of Newfoundlands not on this list, ours weigh in at about 12st each.

Having said that, there is no way I would leave a child unattended with them, it just aint safe.

[gary.b]

Liz there are genuine people who love bull breeds and have done for years and bred their dogs as companions and for protection of their families. There is also a sport where the strength of the dogs are tested by pulling weights etc. So when the police raid premises and discover training equipment they jump on the band wagon and sensationalize the situation, tell Jo public they've found evidence of dog fighting in hope that the local pitbull owners get grassed up.
changilass don't hold your breath, if some members of the present goverment get their way all large breeds will be on the prohibited list.

[Liz]

Never realised that GaryB!!!! That is awful!!!

Sounds like the authorities wanting to be seen to be doing something about the situation in the midst of these awful attacks on children and possibly punishing the innocents (both owners and dogs!) in the process!
Very worrying!

What do you think is the best course of action to protect these breeds which are used for fighting and stopping such powerful dogs getting into the wrong hands?

Also do you think that the media should be reporting these dog attacks?
All it seems to do is cause hysteria?

Something definitely has to be done but has to be given much more thought and I hope the government will consult with many dog 'experts' for advice.

[buggyracer]

I see that the RSPCA have carried out many raids to rescue such dogs..

not rescued, taken and destroyed.

The poor wee girl who got killed by the pit bull type dog, has brought this all to the front pages, but what i want to know is, why a known drug dealer was allowed to keep such a dog? even after two warnings from the local council on the grounds that it had attacked twice before on humans and other animal?

it should have been PTS after the first incident?

Also no dog should EVER be left alone with a small child, no matter the breed or nature of the dog, its not worth taking that risk.

[gary.b]

That is definatly a case of a bad owner creating a bad dog, these dogs were originaly bred for hunting and fighting and that trait remains in them.
I don't believe they should have been banned, the goverment should have placed restrictions on their ownership. As we know anything that gets banned goes underground and can't be regulated.

[Liz]

Did you see that the moron who owned the dog who attacked his niece had a cord at her funeral?!!!!!!

[Liz]

not rescued, taken and destroyed.

The poor wee girl who got killed by the pit bull type dog, has brought this all to the front pages, but what i want to know is, why a known drug dealer was allowed to keep such a dog? even after two warnings from the local council on the grounds that it had attacked twice before on humans and other animal?

it should have been PTS after the first incident?

Also no dog should EVER be left alone with a small child, no matter the breed or nature of the dog, its not worth taking that risk.

If these dogs who were 'rescued' were genuinely being used for dog fighting then they would be better being pts don't you think?

Yes it does beggar belief why this idiot still had the dog!

Totally agree that a dog and child should not be left alone unsupervised.

[buggyracer]

If these dogs who were 'rescued' were genuinely being used for dog fighting then they would be better being pts don't you think?

Yes it does beggar belief why this idiot still had the dog!

Totally agree that a dog and child should not be left alone unsupervised.

liz i wasnt getting at you, but whether the dogs were used for fighting or not is the million dollar question, i guess we will never know? But the media are having a feild day anyhows!

[Liz]

liz i wasnt getting at you, but whether the dogs were used for fighting or not is the million dollar question, i guess we will never know? But the media are having a feild day anyhows!

Didn't think you were but thanks anyway!

Totally agree re the media hype!