Where would you go?

[pat]

Canada for me

[M Swanson]

Then you have not been to Australia or Canada. You really should try putting away the Daily Mail and actually travelling the world. It opens your mind.

What?? Australia provides more for the would-be, legal immigrant than Britain? I never knew that, Flynn.

So unlike Britain Australia doesn't require immigrants to be:-

Skilled and with a job and sponsor in position before arrival?
Needing any kind of health check?
Needing a criminal record check?
Able to support oneself for a minimum period of two years, without recourse to welfare?
No funds to pay for legal representation to assist residency and citizenship?
As certainly used to be the case, without even a passport? Not sure about that now.
Could I really jump on a 'plane and arrive in Australia tomorrow, where I'll be greeted with open arms? The once I'm in, I'm in forever type thingee?
I'm packing my bags!

Is this right, Blue?

[Flynn]

What?? Australia provides more for the would-be, legal immigrant than Britain? I never knew that, Flynn.

So unlike Britain Australia doesn't require immigrants to be:-

Skilled and with a job and sponsor in position before arrival?
Needing any kind of health check?
Needing a criminal record check?
Able to support oneself for a minimum period of two years, without recourse to welfare?
No funds to pay for legal representation to assist residency and citizenship?
As certainly used to be the case, without even a passport? Not sure about that now.
Could I really jump on a 'plane and arrive in Australia tomorrow, where I'll be greeted with open arms? The once I'm in, I'm in forever type thingee?
I'm packing my bags!

Is this right, Blue?

Seriously, put the Daily Mail down, go for a trip abroad. You'll be a much happier and better educated person.

[M Swanson]

I would stay right here and work hard to make sure that the changes that need to be made are made in the best way possible. I would expect we would all work together to make sure that happen through our elected government and a robust and challenging opposition to that government.

So, if the Yes camp win Independence, who will form the opposition, Squidge? Are there other likely, credible political parties to challenge the SNP? Or will it be them forever more?

[M Swanson]

Seriously, put the Daily Mail down, go for a trip abroad. You'll be a much happier and better educated person.

And yet a-g-a-i-n, Flynn fails to answer a single question. Seriously, I'm so pleased you're not on the side of Britain. We've lost enough already.

[Flynn]

I'm on the side of thinking for myself, looking at the whole picture, and forming a considered opinion.

You're on the side of believing right-wing racist Daily Mail propaganda, swallowing it whole, and spouting nonsense.

[macadamia]

No need to go anywhere. Once the Buffoon of Brigadoon has published his White Paper (still a wish list rather than a way ahead) Joe McPublic will start to smell a rat. Cameron and all the usual (think of all the vile names as usual) Silver Spooners will be dancing up and down. BUT the Tories will lose along with Brigadoon's Zoo Keeper, and we will be faced with the attractive prospect of Ed Milligram and his floppy Labour appartachicks (sic). This means a continuation of dilute social welfare policies which will, of course, bankrupt the country, but while it lasts will continue to keep benefit claimants in a better state than they would otherwise have been. Brigadoon's Park Keeper and his bunch of thinly-disguised Trotskyites will be replaced in Scotland with a newish Labour Party, rather more socialist than at present, and the sun will continue to shine on Partick, Govan, Paisley and all points East. Result!

[MerlinScot]

No need to go anywhere. Once the Buffoon of Brigadoon has published his White Paper (still a wish list rather than a way ahead) Joe McPublic will start to smell a rat. Cameron and all the usual (think of all the vile names as usual) Silver Spooners will be dancing up and down. BUT the Tories will lose along with Brigadoon's Zoo Keeper, and we will be faced with the attractive prospect of Ed Milligram and his floppy Labour appartachicks (sic). This means a continuation of dilute social welfare policies which will, of course, bankrupt the country, but while it lasts will continue to keep benefit claimants in a better state than they would otherwise have been. Brigadoon's Park Keeper and his bunch of thinly-disguised Trotskyites will be replaced in Scotland with a newish Labour Party, rather more socialist than at present, and the sun will continue to shine on Partick, Goven, Paisley and all points East. Result!

This post made me laugh so hard that I was nearly crying... hahaha

No, I don't have such a negative view of the future in U.K. at the moment, but what scared me about the SNP policies was 'let's please the audience with a bunch of dreams and then we'll see"... Dreams are beautiful but people don't live off dreams (if only they could!).

[M Swanson]

I'm on the side of thinking for myself, looking at the whole picture, and forming a considered opinion.

LOL Course you are Flynn. You're so good at thinking up answers, that you can never either justify one of your statements of 'fact,' or answer any question put to you. You seriously need to reconsider your opinions and act a little more intelligently. You're a wind-up, right?

In desperation Flynn continued: "You're on the side of believing right-wing racist Daily Mail propaganda, swallowing it whole, and spouting nonsense."

Look old son, if you can't answer questions then you can't. Simples! Coming back with this nonsense isn't fooling anyone. You see, I'm with a growing number of people who don't accept this "racist," nonsense any longer. Too many folks who aren't, have been accused of it and grown wise to this tactic of intimidation. It just doesn't work anymore. S'pect you know that, which is why you resort to the last desperate, ditch-stand of bringing the Mail into the attack. Lighten up Flynn. You know you want to!

[Flynn]

LOL Course you are Flynn. You're so good at thinking up answers, that you can never either justify one of your statements of 'fact,' or answer any question put to you. You seriously need to reconsider your opinions and act a little more intelligently. You're a wind-up, right?

In desperation Flynn continued: "You're on the side of believing right-wing racist Daily Mail propaganda, swallowing it whole, and spouting nonsense."

Look old son, if you can't answer questions then you can't. Simples! Coming back with this nonsense isn't fooling anyone. You see, I'm with a growing number of people who don't accept this "racist," nonsense any longer. Too many folks who aren't, have been accused of it and grown wise to this tactic of intimidation. It just doesn't work anymore. S'pect you know that, which is why you resort to the last desperate, ditch-stand of bringing the Mail into the attack. Lighten up Flynn. You know you want to!

You quote the Daily Heil chapter and verse every day. And yes, you're opinions are dripping with racism. If you are what it means to be British, then I would sooner not be British. You remind of this Guide to being a British bigot:

Visit an Irish pub for an Australian or Belgian beer. Drive home in a German car and on the way stop to purchase either fish and chips (invented by Mexican Jews), an Indian curry, a Turkish kebab, or a Chinese takeaway. Eat said food sitting on a Swedish sofa while watching American programs on a Japanese TV. Be suspicious of all things foreign whilst forgetting that your genepool has seen more foreign DNA than almost any other country. Worship St. George who was an Arab who had nothing to do with England.

Then bitch about how Britishness is being taken away from you by migrants.

[M Swanson]

You quote the Daily Heil chapter and verse every day. And yes, you're opinions are dripping with racism. If you are what it means to be British, then I would sooner not be British.

I've been posting for about three months and I've quoted the Mail, every day, Flynn? Really? Prove it. Go on I dare you!

Publish ANY opinion that I've expressed that is "racist," brother.

I'm British and proud! You are free to be whatever you choose! I care not a jot!

[Flynn]

As you wish but first please give us your definition of 'British'.

[M Swanson]

More questions, you cannot answer. Stop beating yourself up. Just try and make a statement you can actually back-up for once! Works for me! LOL

[Flynn]

More questions, you cannot answer. Stop beating yourself up. Just try and make a statement you can actually back-up for once! Works for me! LOL

I back up all my statements. Now please give us your definition of what makes a person British. I'm betting skin colour is in there somewhere.

[squidge]

M Swanson, Politics in Scotland is changing and will change further after a yes vote. There will be MPs who will be out of work who may choose to come to an Independent Scotland to continue their political career, there is already a Labour For Independence Group. The SDA may begin to put forward candidates, the tory party will have to change and goodness knows what will happen to the LibDems. Some commentators believe the SNP will change too. It will be an exciting time in Politics and I am glad to be involved.

[Flynn]

M Swanson, Politics is chanhing and will change further after a yes vote. There will be MPs who will be out of work who may choose to come to an Independent Scotland to continue their political career, there is already a Labour For Independence Group. The SDA may begin to put forward candidates, the tory party will have to change and goodness knows what will happen to the LibDems. Some commentators believe the SNP will change too. It will be an exciting time in Politics and I am glad to be involved.

The LibDems will disappear into becoming a fourth party, behind UKIP third, tories second, and Labour in government.

[M Swanson]

I back up all my statements. Now please give us your definition of what makes a person British. I'm betting skin colour is in there somewhere.

LOLOLOL. That's it. I've read it all now. Not one question answered. Not one statement proven. Not one scrap of evidence to support your nonsense! And you've backed-them up? Toooooooo silly. Never right and your wrong again, Bro. Skin colour has absolutely nothing to do with my definition of British. Where have I ever suggested it has? Back it up ........... if you can! Sorry, but this is an unequal contest and I must away. I'm known for my kindness.

[M Swanson]

M Swanson, Politics in an independent Scotland is changing and will change further after a yes vote. There will be MPs who will be out of work who may choose to come to an Independent Scotland to continue their political career, there is already a Labour For Independence Group. The SDA may begin to put forward candidates, the tory party will have to change and goodness knows what will happen to the LibDems. Some commentators believe the SNP will change too. It will be an exciting time in Politics and I am glad to be involved.

Thanks Squidge. I knew you were my best chance for being given a sensible response. I'm not too au fait with the politics of Scotland, but will certainly research the groups you have named. I haven't learned enough to arrive at a final conclusion on Independence, but I must say I admire your determination and willingness to fight your corner, without resorting to abuse.

[squidge]

Lol.... You forgot to add "under extreme provocation"lol.

[Flynn]

LOLOLOL. That's it. I've read it all now. Not one question answered. Not one statement proven. Not one scrap of evidence to support your nonsense! And you've backed-them up? Toooooooo silly. Never right and your wrong again, Bro. Skin colour has absolutely nothing to do with my definition of British. Where have I ever suggested it has? Back it up ........... if you can! Sorry, but this is an unequal contest and I must away. I'm known for my kindness.

You do not understand the difference between speculation and statement, do you? You spout the Daily Mail chapter and verse, so of course there's no small element of bigotry. When you think 'immigrant' what colour face do you imagine? I'm still waiting for your definition of 'British'. Come on.