The Biggest Debate in Gaming.

[Niall Fernie]

I'm not going to suggest that the graphics on consoles are rubbish, far from it, for the time they were amazing.

I'm just saying that a few years down the line they are now at the limit of what can be output from these old machines.

Here's a quick comparison with the equivalent Xbox gpu and an old card of mine:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=557&card2=358

It cost me around £100 at the time (about the saving on buying 5 games)

I'm using something a little faster now:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=604&card2=358

Again, around the £100 pound mark.

So in around 4 years I've spent about £200 on graphics cards, money which I've easily saved on the cost of the games I've bought. I can still play all my old games (albeit with much improved graphics)

I'm pretty sure that the next generation of consoles will far out perform my current setup but the chances are I'll only have to shell out another £100 to match the latest and greatest console. I'll still be saving around £20 per game and will soon save my money.

Other benefits of the PC are if anything breaks you can replace it for less than the cost of a new console.

[RecQuery]

I don't even care about graphics that much I prefer gameplay and play a lot of older games. Even I can see how bad the graphics are on consoles. With console gaming and the multi-platform aspect of most modern games now I can up them to high or ultra graphics settings without even having to think about it and it's still not taxing the GPU. Lots of the time I've installed custom textures or graphics mods to try and improve it. In cases where ultra actually does tax the GPU then the console version is usually hard coded to medium or lower.

There are a ton of YouTube videos comparing this just do a search for 'PC vs console graphics' actually because consoles are holding back graphics and other things with their hardware most PC gamers find they don't need to upgrade as often,

Even ignoring the graphic aspects (I wish more games developers did and focused on other things) I still think the PC has more advantages for gaming. My main problem is with the dumbing down of PC gaming to appeal to console players.

[Niall Fernie]

I agree on gameplay, I mostly play QuakeLive and have pretty much all the textures and effects turned off. All the character models are forced to be the same and it plays at a million miles an hour with a rock steady 125 fps.

I did some googling and found a page with screenshot comparisons between xbox and pc (i'd imagine ps3 is much the same):

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/20...c-comparison/1

[phoenixtwin2]

although im still with console, the reason being some games dont support controller and your stuch with a keyboard and mouse. the other point is that the xbox 360 and the ps3 are coming on around about 8 years old and they are still quite good graphics even in comparison to the modern updated PC.

the only flaw i have with the xbox is its lack of a browser but even if it did i would use my laptop 9/10 times i think the ps3 controller is too small but it does have blue ray player although the xbox has downloadable high definition movies but its not the same as putting a cd in because you have to download the movies...

i do think tho that once the xbox 450/720 etc... and the ps4 come out it will out match almost every computer system out there (besides really high end spec.)

the other issues i have is the pc gets out dated so fast. the i could have spent £300 for an xbox and had it for 8 years.

[octane]

Need I say more



BTW how many can remember those titles.......retro days !!

[RecQuery]

although im still with console, the reason being some games dont support controller and your stuch with a keyboard and mouse. the other point is that the xbox 360 and the ps3 are coming on around about 8 years old and they are still quite good graphics even in comparison to the modern updated PC.

the only flaw i have with the xbox is its lack of a browser but even if it did i would use my laptop 9/10 times i think the ps3 controller is too small but it does have blue ray player although the xbox has downloadable high definition movies but its not the same as putting a cd in because you have to download the movies...

i do think tho that once the xbox 450/720 etc... and the ps4 come out it will out match almost every computer system out there (besides really high end spec.)

the other issues i have is the pc gets out dated so fast. the i could have spent £300 for an xbox and had it for 8 years.

I use an Xbox 360 controller for games that I think play better with them, it works out of the box. If that particular game or PC version of it doesn't support controllers then I use a utility called Xpadder to create that support.

The thing is, a console is outdated from the point it was manufactured yes there are revisions and variations in different models but for the most part it's the same hardware from the point it was built. And as most games have to play on both platforms then anything a console runs, a PC or similar or higher specs regard of when it was made and when it starts not to what a lot of PC gamers do is slowly lower the graphics sliders. You can build a good gaming system for £300-£700. That'll last at least 5 years, more if you do the occasional upgrade. Most PC builders are very concerned about price http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc is proof of that. There's a small minority that are concerned with always being on the bleeding edge but they usually have entirely too much money and buy overpriced crap anyway.

...BTW how many can remember those titles.......retro days !!

I play a lot of retro games I buy some of them from Good Old Games or a lot of them are considered Abandonware. ScummVM has a lot of free Lucas Arts adventure games also. There are even some people (One, Two, Three) that review older games, it's pretty fun to watch.

[phoenixtwin2]

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if you cover the corners saying the xbox or pc you wouldnt know which one is better graphics most of the time.