Oag's, Gunn's & Corners, Watten and Thrumster

[Garnet]

Wow Tricia, thanks very, very much for that, does that mean I have it wrong with Helen More and Wm Corner or are they related...cousins possibly. Oh I've a long way to go I think, but thanks again. Garnet.

[alexsm]

I have Oags and Corners in my Thrumster ancestry. My great Granny Was Alexandrina Oag (Lexie) born 1830 in Thrumster , daughter of James Oag and Elizabeth Sinclair. She married Alexander Sutherland, fisherman from Latheronwheel. My 3X Great grandmother was Barbara Davidson from Sarclet born c 1773. She died on 17 Feb 1857 and is buried in Thrumster cemetery. On her death cert her parents are given William Davidson and Mary Corner. I have no info on them. Barbara has a headstone in the cemetary. She was married to Wiiam Bain, weaver from Sarclet in 1797. I have heard that the Bains may have come from Watten.

[Garnet]

Hi alexsm, so far I've had no mention of Bains, (however Watten does seem to figure in the equasion with Sinclairs and Corners), nor Davidson so it's all very interesting I've not been able to draw all information together so far especialy since I'm not very good at this, being I'ts my first venture into genealogy and I keep getting lost!! However I will visit Thrumster Cemetery as soon as I can and take more note of the names and connections, if any. I can only but thank you for this further information. Regards Garnet.

[Peterd500]

Hi Garnet

I have Ann CORNER born 1794 Sarclet to Francis CORNER & Margrat OAG married 1817 George DOWNIE.

- son Francis DOWNIE married 1839 Isabella BREMNER daughter of John BREMNER & his second wife Henrietta SINCLAIR, daughter of Francis SINCLAIR & Elspeth OAG at Ulbster. I am confident that Francis must be the son of Donald SINCLAIR the sailor son of David SINCLAIR of Broynach because Donald the sailor's son Francis was at Ulbster. Donald the sailor moved to the Sarclet/Thrumster area and is reputedly buried at Thrumster (no headstone to be found). Henrietta's brother James SINCLAIR will be James SINCLAIR who married Catherine CRAIG and had children at Sarclet and Ulbster including son Francis 1811-1893 who married Janet Wemyss OAG. An obituary for the latter Francis is thus:

British Library - British Newspapers 1600-1900 - online database
Aberdeen Weekly Journal, 30 September 1893
DEATH OF ONE OF THE FAMOUS SINCLAIRS.-
One of the oldest and most respected fishermen in Wick has been removed by the death, at the age of 83, of Mr Francis SINCLAIR, Wellington Street. Mr SINCLAIR belonged to the Broynach branch of the Caithness SINCLAIRs, and granting the legitimacy of that branch to have been established, as Mr Thomas SINCLAIR, M.A., asserts it to have been, the deceased fisherman was not far off the direct line of succession to the Earldom. He was a very [worthy?] man, and for many years was an elder in the Free Church.

I have his wife Janet Wemyss OAG 1811-1886 as the daughter of Alexander OAG bap 1774 Sarclet & Margaret SUTHERLAND, Alexander being the son of Alexander OAG & Elspeth/Elizabeth FARQUHAR, a couple who apparently are ultimately responsible for many of the OAGs one comes across. eg Ann CORNER whom I first mentioned I think is supposed to be the daughter of Francis CORNER & Margaret OAG, daughter of Alexander OAG & Elspeth/Elizabeth FARQUHAR.

James OAG married Jane LYALL, LYALL being another hotbed of family associations in the area. James was the son of Alexander OAG (=Margaret SUTHERLAND), son of James, son of Alexander OAG & Elspeth/Elizabeth FARQUHAR. James & Jane's son Henry OAG married Elizabeth STEWART, daughter of William STEWART & Catherine LAING whom I mention below.


- daughter Ann DOWNIE married Francis BREMNER another child to John BREMNER & Henrietta SINCLAIR above.

- did a son George DOWNIE marry Ann OAG daughter of Alexander OAG & Margaret SUTHERLAND (not the same couple as above, i.e. there were two couples of the same names a genration apart)? - Alexander being the son of James OAG (=Ann CAMPBELL), son of Alexander OAG & Elspeth/Elizabeth FARQUHAR.

- daughter Elizabeth DOWNIE married Neil STEWART, son of William STEWART and his first wife Isabel MILLER. William STEWART's second wife was Catherine LAING daughter of James LAING & Sidney SINCLAIR whose greatgrandfather was Donald SINCLAIR the sailor whom I mention above.

Lots of Sarclet/Thrumster connections amongst that lot. The further you go the more confused you'll get because of the constant intermingling of family lines in the area but that's genealogy for you. Goo luck!

Peterd500

[brandy]

have several corners and oags from thrumster in our family tree.. its on ancestry.co.uk username captainbeaker if you want to have a look

[Garnet]

Hi peterd500, that is some information you sent me which I thank you for, you said I'd get 'cofused'....how right you are!!! I think I'll need t get a roll of wallpaper pin it up and write it all down to see if I can make sense of it, wish I'd listened to a lovely woman who knew who was who and could go back to about 1860's....could kick myself now, once again I thank-you peterd. May I ask what direction your heading in (if it's not too nosey) the same as me or a different direction???

[Garnet]

Hi Brandy, thank-you for that link I'm off to try it and see how I get on...would be interested in your connection to them. G

[brandy]

ok to start you off.. i have Isobel Corner b1785-1872-m- john miller
she is the daughter of Francis Corner b1746 -m- Isobel Bremner 1745-1863
Francis is the son of James Corner b1711 -m- Fenella Bain b 1713
James is the son of John Corner b1685 _m_ margaret McBeath b1690

[Peterd500]

Hi peterd500, that is some information you sent me which I thank you for, you said I'd get 'cofused'....how right you are!!! I think I'll need t get a roll of wallpaper pin it up and write it all down to see if I can make sense of it, wish I'd listened to a lovely woman who knew who was who and could go back to about 1860's....could kick myself now, once again I thank-you peterd. May I ask what direction your heading in (if it's not too nosey) the same as me or a different direction???

Am interested in the descendants of Donald SINCLAIR the sailor and his son James SINCLAIR the chamberlain who were in the Sarclet/Thrumster area. So were the chamberlain's brothers John at nearby Gansclet and Francis at nearby Ulbster. Various descendants married into other families in the area and they are all tangled up with each other as well, which my message demonstrates. I'm not an expert on the Thrumster families but keep coming across links such as the ones I mentioned, although they are often links made by others, not me, I've just copied them.

Peterd500

[Garnet]

Oh what a tangled 'web' we weave...in more ways than one!!! Ha, Ha. And yes I have Sinclairs too but seemingly from Watten, they being Archibald and Helen Sinclair possibly deceasd by 1944/5 ish and from the Newton area, their ancestors came from the clearances...exactly when...Ah?? Garnet

[Tricia]

Wow Tricia, thanks very, very much for that, does that mean I have it wrong with Helen More and Wm Corner or are they related...cousins possibly. Oh I've a long way to go I think, but thanks again. Garnet.

William Corner b 1781 app married 1808 Helen MORE.
William Corner b 1872 app married 1898 Christina Janet Forbes MORE.

these Williams above
William b 1781 app is g'father or William Corner b 1872
also William Senior had a g'daughter Helen Corner 1865 who married 1898 William MORE.
Also William Snr had a daughter Elizabeth who married 1831 Donald MORE.
YES these MORE all relate to each other.
Tricia
born a MORE in Wick

[Garnet]

Once again Tricia I can only but thank you for that info, so I was correct about William and Helen, looks like I'll need to get to the library before the hours get reduced....can't believe it's going to happpen, it's the one place where all ages can go especialy retired people who love to read etc. thanks again Tricia. Garnet.