How many people out in caithness are into HEAVY METAL

[zappster]

lol tell me aboot ed mrs zappsters goin nuts at all is owld heavy metal stuff coming through the mail!!

[Painkiller]

I'm glad you like the fact that i'm into DIO! He is awesome don't know why people don't give enough credit and slap it on Ozzy all the time. Have you heard Killing the dragoan and Magica? Know heard Tiptons solo album! Still trying to get hold of Jugulator!! Yeah i'm a big fan of priest, love painkiller hence the internet name!! Yep my cd collection is pretty good. I forgot about manowar to as there mental Eric adams is the most underratted singers ever!! Triumph of steel is great. Hey zappster your missusses no likeing the old heavy metal thing? Hehe i blast me mums ears out while i have to do the dishes playing maiden preist and dio she no keen on exodus and the thrash says it abuse hehe.

[Donnie]

I disagree with Donnie tho, H.I.M were being played on MTV etc long before Bam Margera and CKY ever mentioned them, they have been huge in Europe for many years and 'Scuzz' & 'Kerrang' were playing 'Buried Alive By Love' since it was first released.

Really what I meant was Bam had helped them get recognition in the UK/US. Before he started they were virtually un-heard of in both places. He's been with them since the Razorblade Romance days and introduced them to Jimmy Pop who signed them to their new label re-launching their career and launching for the first time in the US under the name - HER. Since then Bam has been directing their videos and helping with their shows. They have appeared in the CKY vids for many years and they have reflected their thanks in the inlay of every album since deepest shadows.

[Painkiller]

Bam, he seems to be some him fanatic that rants and raves about them all the time, read his interview in metal hammer. Whats everyone listening to at the moment? Whats the next interesting new release this year that your all looking forward to? Minds judas priest next album and of course dios new album called master of the moon!!

[guitarzan]

i dunno wat im lookin forward to this year painkiller but i bought the new slipknot album the other day and its ace! its got a right mix o stuff on there, some acoustic stuff as well, i was surprised!

[Jeid]

Slipknot lost it after the first album. They couldn't re-capture what it was that made them big. Iowa has a few good tracks, but its not an album i could sit and listen to and think "yeah, thats an ace album". its average at best.

Everyone rants and raves about how great they are, yeah they put on a great live show, but when it comes to the studio.... i think they suck ass.

If your gonna listen to some modern "metal" then check out Chimaira or As I Lay Dying!

the new Machine Head album is awesome by the way

[Painkiller]

Hey jedi

Machine head new album is excellent, through the asjes of empires!! Imperium is a ace i love the heavy riffting and the fast section at the end! Loads of good songs of that album. Megadeths new album be great too.

Slipnot there crap, there trying to sound like soulfly with all the bass and shouting vocals. Wheres the guitar solos????? Can't they play them are they that crap?? I hate new metal bands. Glad that phase has gone and real metal is coming back to the front again.

Anyone here got Machine head the more things change if so whats it like? Is is as good as burn my eyes and has it got guitar solos? Cheers.

Zappster Dave Mustaine must rank as one of the best gutarist ever he solos like mental and sings at the same time and thrashes metal riffs out and there fast and complicated so hes the man!!! Also Dimiond Darrel pantera guy can shred to and kerry king hes a monster and all the thrash metal guitarist are awesome. Listen to Painkiller the album by priest and your get some solos on that are unberlievable.

[Donnie]

Did anybody get the Probot album? It's pretty good.

[Jeid]

Hey jedi

Machine head new album is excellent, through the asjes of empires!! Imperium is a ace i love the heavy riffting and the fast section at the end! Loads of good songs of that album. Megadeths new album be great too.

Slipnot there crap, there trying to sound like soulfly with all the bass and shouting vocals. Wheres the guitar solos????? Can't they play them are they that crap?? I hate new metal bands. Glad that phase has gone and real metal is coming back to the front again.

Anyone here got Machine head the more things change if so whats it like? Is is as good as burn my eyes and has it got guitar solos? Cheers.

Zappster Dave Mustaine must rank as one of the best gutarist ever he solos like mental and sings at the same time and thrashes metal riffs out and there fast and complicated so hes the man!!! Also Dimiond Darrel pantera guy can shred to and kerry king hes a monster and all the thrash metal guitarist are awesome. Listen to Painkiller the album by priest and your get some solos on that are unberlievable.

Slipknot actually have some gifted guitar players. You should hear him play.... that guy can shred!!!! Probably better than a lot of modern metal players. Just because they don't play it, doesn't mean they can't do it!

I've got "The More Things Change".... its pretty good!!

Donnie.... i got the Probot album. Its pretty good, old school metal. its got a few stand out tracks, nothing absouloutly amazing though!

[guitarzan]

paikiller,

jeid is right, slipknot has two excellent guitarists. Mick Thompson can shred with the best and he was a guitar teacher for years before he ever was in slipknot. Jim Root plays in Stone Sour as well and you can hear him solo away on that album, but he is more of a rhythm man. On the new album there are a few solos, not as many as i would like! but slipknot are all about the raw power of the riff rather than a widdly solo, so their music doesnt lend itself too well to show off over. On their first album, there were solos all over their but when Ross Robinson produced the album, he took them all off the final mix because he said they didnt add anything to the song.

As for Corey Taylor's singing, the man is a great singer. I hear what ur sayin about him shouting but the way he changes from the agressive roars to soft vocals is excellent and he is a quality singer into the bargain!

[Painkiller]

Hey dudes,

I heard the first slipnot album and some of 2nd and thought what the hell, no solo's just heavy bass style riffage! Interesting to see that this producer thought solos added nothing to a song what aload of bollocks!! Listen to st anger by metallica and thats the only album you can say the solos weren't to badly missed but you still want to hear Kirk shred. Slipnot have all these little kids walking around streets with there tops on like aged 8 and 10 like what the hell! Mainstream music. While sepultura and soulfly etc are to heavy and brutal for these same kids as max calavera voice is to extreame and doesn't do that soft singing as this music dosn't need it!!!!

Machine head are great, must get around to getting that album. Anyone got CANS Beyond the Gates album? Its really good, he's a amazing singer and the line up is superb. Got Halford guitarist, hammerfall guitarsit, bass player from primal fear, drummer from sinner and Cans from hammerfall!!!! Really great stuff.

[Jeid]

Hey dudes,

I heard the first slipnot album and some of 2nd and thought what the hell, no solo's just heavy bass style riffage! Interesting to see that this producer thought solos added nothing to a song what aload of bollocks!! Listen to st anger by metallica and thats the only album you can say the solos weren't to badly missed but you still want to hear Kirk shred. Slipnot have all these little kids walking around streets with there tops on like aged 8 and 10 like what the hell! Mainstream music. While sepultura and soulfly etc are to heavy and brutal for these same kids as max calavera voice is to extreame and doesn't do that soft singing as this music dosn't need it!!!!

St Anger doesn't miss solos? St Anger is the worst Metallica album that they released and to say it doesn't miss solos is bullshit... it misses everything. Good songs, good production etc etc Kirk actually had some solos which he recorded but he decided that they didn't fit and that they didn't add anything to the song. not so stupid now huh?

So are you condemning Slipknot for being too mainstream? A band makes it big and they are sell outs..... if nobody has heard of them, then the music is too extreme. have you even thought for a second that these kids haven't even been introduced to such bands yet? i know when i was 8-10 i couldn't afford to go out and buy cd's and check out what music was "cool" or not.

[mike.mckenzie]

i like st anger because its different for metallica. Lot of people hate the drum sound, myself, I think its great. The other singles released off the new album are dirge though.

[Painkiller]

Hey

I agree to a certain extent to what your saying solos by kirk would of been great and abit of varitety on the cd as some songs sound similair and it does get a bit boring. Frantic is amazing song though. The cd production is crap the dvd that came with it sounded better and that was like bootleg style recording!!

I watched Metallica last night, it was the first concert they did for the st anger world tour in the rock am ring in germany and i've been blown away with how heavy and awesome metallica is!! The new songs like frantic and st anger rocked like hell wouldn't think it was the same songs off st anger as it was so heavy. The set list i saw is of the following:

Blackend ( What a great song)
No remorse ( Old school thrash)
Harvester of sorrow ( Extream heavyness)
Welcome home sanaterium ( Brilliant solos)
For whom the bells toll ( Heavy Heavy)
Frantic ( Machine gun style riffages yeah)
Seek and destroy ( What a riff, heavy thrash)
St Anger ( Crazy metal)
Four Horsemen ( Great stuff)
Master of puppets ( What a song)
Nothing else matters ( Cool)
Battery ( thrash Metal)
Where ever i may roam ( Metal)
Enter sandman ( Cool riffage)

Think that was it, think that was the right order too. They did jam DIO Holu Diver and called it disco music!!!!!
Metallica rule st angers is great, better than load and reload. There new album in 2005 is gonna be ace.

Slipnot, are crap thats my opinion, there going to tour with slayer at the end of the year! Tour called the unholy allience. yeah cds cost loads, but who would ever check out soulfly and megadeth out and maiden with the art covers all depecting weird creatures and fantasy images!! But there happy to buy what the media says is good, these critics proberely never heard of Hammerfall, Megadeth, pantera, blaze, judas priest and maiden etc or if they have they think there old and out of fashion but that is complete crap. Cause if thats the case why is iron maiden selling out 170, 000 stadiums in brazil? And that amount in donginton last year? Where linkin park slipnot get perhaps 20,000!! Judas priest is coming back to the fold and will show ne metal where to go!! If the radio and kerrap don't play real metal and not greenday, feeder evanesence and all this other crap that i see on it then kids will buy the cds that i listen to while i was growing up and then makle my music mainstream and not this complete joke the metal industry is in the UK!! Germany is the place to live if heavy metal is your thing as you regulary see Manowar, primal fear, edguy, hammerfall, kreator and other metal bands in the top 10 and on there top of the pops!! Can't really see waking up on saturday or at night on friday and see machine head playing imperium, or anthrax, slayer, priest, maiden, dio playing as these teeny boopers would not no what to do as people think the darkness or nickleback is heavy metal!!

Thats enough ranting for one post, be interesting to see what people think.

[mds_hhl]

I'll sign the disclaimer now before I get accused of dissing the Blink182s types of this world. Taste in music is subjective and we all enjoy what we enjoy. However, you comparison with metal in germany with the UK is a sign of the times. The UK is market driven and the bands with the budgets can market themselves by buying themselves adverts (that's fine) but good press and MTV coverage too? People like Linkin Park actually have column inchs dedicated to them and it is paid for. Does anyone out there actually believe that tracks played on the Kerrang Channel have anything to do with people phoning in. I was at Download at the weekend and the review of Linkin Park sounds like it was not even written by someone there in Kerrang, whereas Slayer got a couple of sentences. Machine Head were my band of the day and also failed to attract many words. Corporate business has seen how UK citizens will follow like sheep. (take a look in English towns and cities, more shops less choice). The financial success of pop idol or whatever it is combined with the boy band thing has been phenominal. All the business has done is exploited a hole in the market for people who wish to consider themselves "alternative" or rebels and sold them a package of fashion models with guitars. It has worked. I see so many kids with slipknot tshirts that are about 8 years old.

Don't get too down about it though. Metal has always been a minority genre and always will be. (Not being a snob, but some of the Westlife types, I'm happy not to be around. Think about it). The manufactured bands, or bands that were caught in an early stage by the marketing guys do make people aware of metal and in turn some will go onto find proper bands and that is good for a healthy scene. There are many bands around that are good some make it some fade away, the rising tide of metal popularity under the "Linkin Park" affect will leave more awareness to the genre when big business is bored and moves away. So be happy and listen to what matters. Metal (Quick ad of my own : try out HEADHUNGLOW on www.headhunglow.co.uk

[Donnie]

If you like it listen to it. You shouldn't care what other people think/like/listen to/wear. Even if some music is marketed well who cares. Aslong as it makes some people happy. Don't dis on other peoples taste. If you don't like bands like Feeder then that's fine and you are entitled to your opinion but to boldly state they are crap is just stupid. They obviously have some talent.

[Painkiller]

Hey

Download i read kerrang article and the sentence for slayer and machine head were tiny compared to the other bands which was like what these guys are headliner material!!

Well sorry if i offended anyone who like feeder etc but if you did then you wouldn't really be on this thread as its all about heavy metal and feeder, greenday are not metal, enough said.

I hope your band does get up to wick to play some serious ass metal, i for one will be there!! I had Iced earth Glorious Burden on today what a band they are! Do you like Kreator i found them to be great. Is your band like napalm death, benidiction, bolt thrower etc? I dig the thrash metal scene of the 80s!! Megadeth, anthrax, testament, metallica, exodus, death angel etc all great.

Yeah sad how most people are like sheep and follow the trend and there ain't enough shepperds out there doing out to change it. Germany is the place to be and greece and especially japan they love metal and get bands being number 1 over there!! Powermetal band Nightwish are number 1 in greece at the moment!

Speak to you all later

BLAZE Bayley is the Messiah, check out blood and belife to see why!!

[led_pighp]

yeah used to be into metal when i went to college there but now gone away from that and heavily a blues player, ( then again i still like to flail off a marty freidman solo now and again)

[Painkiller]

Hey Metal heads

I was watching Primal fear last night, the video for metal is forever!! Whos seen it? I loved the song sounds so much like halford its unreal!!

Where zappster gone? Anyone got any stratovarious cds and can tell me if there any good before i look for one to buy cheers.

Blaze New cd is well worth getting if your into powermetal/heavy metal!! His voice is amazing! The songs sound like metallica riffs with huge metal solos and great lyrics.

Anyone got any news on the new judas priest cd? I heard that its suppose to be painkiller 2!! Other news Dio new album master of the moon is being released in september after his greatest hits tour over the summer can't wait.

If your not into metal then you are not my friend (Manowar- Metal Warrior)

[codex]

wheres all da technoheads