What is a Scot?

[John Little]

Not ifs you is not fonds of football...

[veritas]

Not ifs you is not fonds of football...

Doesnt matter what sport or event it is Football, Rugby, Commonwealth Games, Tennis etc etc if you support the Scottish guy or girl against all other then your heart and soul is Scottish try the test and see !!

[John Little]

Errr - trouble is that I'm a bit of a weirdo - I don't do sport, don't watch it and don't really care about it in any way shape or form. Never have since leaving school.

And I don't do flag waving or loyalty to groups wearing colours or stuff.

If push comes to shove I would support the person I liked best and I would not give a damn where they came from.

BTW - I used to have a Scottish accent - if you are in Primary school in Thurso you do tend to. But the English kids teased it out of me when we moved south.

[veritas]

Then you have answered your question your not Scottish !

[Tubthumper]

If you're mad for Scottish football
Even though it's pretty poor
If your team in europe playing
In first round gets shown the door
If the players look like carthorses
The pitch is like a field
And the captain sticks the V's up
So his playing fate is sealed

You're a Jock, You're a Jock
You go to weddings and get drunk and wear a frock
Your team's all foreign, all gone the morn'
And the national squad get beat each year by Iceland, You're a Jock

If you're mad for flag supporting
But can hardly lift the pole
If on junk your kids are living
And you're scrounging off the dole
If your schooldays were suspended
Cos you couldn't take the stress
And you've got a social worker
To help you sort out your mess

You're a ned, You're a ned
In a basball cap and tracksuit, You're a ned
You like the MadDog and underage snog
And a Corsa with dropped-down suspension, You're a Ned

If your diet's pretty dodgy
Live on deep fried crap and pie
Smoke like lum and drink like drainpipe
Early days you're going to die
You've got furring of the arteries
Your only exercise
Is going down the bingo
For a chance to win a prize

You're a Chav, You've a Chav
Opportunities? You flushed them down the lav
You cannae read right, But Scottish Gov might
Give you all sorts of help to live the life you want to have

Every night you're on the bevvy
Thunderbird and Buckfast too
Join a gang and run frae polis
Think yer hard with schemie crew
Though you like your reek and jellies
It's the bottle thats your fave
And a jumping on bystander's head
Is all the buzz you crave

You're a Ned, You're a Ned
You've never worked, you never will, you stay in bed
You've got an ASBO, it makes the burds glow
And the Burberry cap just shows the world that you're a Ned

[porshiepoo]

Until moving here I have never really thought of myself as anything but British. Being English just meant I was born there, I never made a distinction between England, Scotland or Wales. I was born in the UK making me British. I love the diversity of the UK and I love Bagpipes as much as English countryside as much as 'Danny Boy'.
Since moving here I've found that it's considered 'normal' to make the distinction between English, Scottish etc.
I have no problem stating that as I was born in England to English parents, English grandparents and so on and so on, I'm classed as English and if I had to make the distinction then I would be proud to say I'm English.

What makes a Scot? I couldn't tell you to be honest but I'm guessing the same thing that makes an Englishman consider themselves English as opposed to British.

[John Little]

That is brilliant- you need to write a book Tub person- totally wicked.

So Veritas - let's get it straight then.
To be a Scot a love of Sport is compulsory.

That settles it then - I definitely have no claims at all.



I'll take the hit
I'm just a Brit
My veins are full of mongrel s***

With my assorted pedigree
all true Hibernians must agree
T'is just too sassenacheee.

Farewell ye banks o' bonny Doon
Ne'er more shall I see Thirza toon
My credentials are so out of order
I'd best stay well south o't Border


While Alex Salmond rules the land
This Gordon will not cry 'By Dand!'
My pretensions have been rumbled
My Aenglish pride full well humbled
To Caithness we'll be strangers
I've failed the test - of Celtic V Rangers.

[ducati]

Oh no wee John
You must not run
Fea the bonny, bonny banks of Loch Lomand

For you we cry
Our eyes won’t dry
‘till you return ta the land of mist and heather

for English we
have great need
to redress the balance in terms of numbers

so on ye go
along that road
high, till ye get back to Thirza Toon

Criket! that makes Tub's look good!

[northener]

Then you have answered your question your not Scottish !

Nah, you're a Scotsman with a brain.

[Saveman]

We're all human. Natives of planet Earth. What's the point in making any other distinction, it only serves to seperate us.

[davie]

Until moving here I have never really thought of myself as anything but British. Being English just meant I was born there, I never made a distinction between England, Scotland or Wales. I was born in the UK making me British. I love the diversity of the UK and I love Bagpipes as much as English countryside as much as 'Danny Boy'.
Since moving here I've found that it's considered 'normal' to make the distinction between English, Scottish etc.
I have no problem stating that as I was born in England to English parents, English grandparents and so on and so on, I'm classed as English and if I had to make the distinction then I would be proud to say I'm English.

What makes a Scot? I couldn't tell you to be honest but I'm guessing the same thing that makes an Englishman consider themselves English as opposed to British.

An excellent post Porshie - and very well put

[northener]

I actually had some numpty ask why I (as an English protestant) was supporting Celtic.

And the reason this towering intellect had arrived at this incisive conclusion?

I'd painted my garage door and fence green and white.

I'm not kidding - and neither was he.

[Cattach]

Sorry Cattach – this is going to be another of those long ones.

I got told I was an Englishman on another thread, and it got me to thinking that while it is true, it is not quite as clear cut as all that, so I thought I’d just clear some air.

What is an Englishman? Someone who is born in England and speaks with an English accent- like me?

Or what is a Scot?

Is this a Scot?

On the mother’s side.
Middle name is Gordon to remind him of his mother’s surname. Grandfather Gordon served in the First World war in the Seaforth Highlanders. He was born in the Isle of Man – his parents having left Ayrshire about 1890 to seek a better life. They didnae find it.

Great Grandparents number Johnstones and Bells from the Kelso area.

On the father’s side.
Family originally comes from Roxburghshire. If you follow the B6357 out of Newcastleton towards Old Castleton you will find an old cemetery on the left as you go up onto the moors. It is full of Littles including six John Littles which is a sobering sight. It is also firmly in Scotland- has been since the dark ages. Lowland Scots I grant ye, and nothing to do with Highland aristocracy, but still Hibernian.

One of them left in the 1790s and went a few miles south where he married Mary and settled down to farm south of Carlisle- which is where my Dad’s family came from.

You see I do not think of myself as English or even Scottish - neither will do. I’m British and I like being British.

Such a mongrel.

But I tell you what- I might not like shortbread, wear a kilt or even toss cabers, but I am proud as a dog with two tails of my Scottish ancestry, and I’d stack my celtic DNA up against anybody’s. I have however an inordinate love of whiskey and bagpipes - could this be inherited?


So call me an Englishman if you like – the label means little to me.


I imagine there are quite a few on these boards who have a similar mix...

I did not bother reading the post - answer is too obvious. A Scot is someone born and bred in Scotland. Colour or racial background of prior generations does not matter. Some will claim they are English because they have English parents but born and bread in Scotland - certainly Scottish.