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I have no experience of the mindset of rapists and mass murderers either but that doesn't exclude me from commenting on them. I wasn't a Nazi Storm Trooper in WWII but I don't think that excludes me from any conversations about them.
For over eight years I've been reading about innocent Afghani women and children we've blown to bits, yes the killing of civilians is the norm not the exception.
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Last edited by The Drunken Duck; 22-Feb-10 at 21:12. Reason: Spoilt the flow of the pointless arguing.
Oh my God. What a silly response, comparing rapist and mass murderers to our boys in Afghanistan - It's interesting, not to say telling, to note you seem to actually believe the propaganda of Press TV???!
Come on Fred, calm down. Tell you what, nip down to Inverness to the Recruiting Office (three of my boys did), sign on and get your bum out there and sort 'em out, it's the only way. Best of luck..
What did you expect me to believe, that we are killing all these innocent people in Afghanistan looking for the person behind 9/11?
The American invasion of Afghanistan was illegal and based on lies, these innocent women and children are dying as a result. We have no possible claim to self defence, Afghanistan was no threat to us, we are the aggressors.
And for those of us who know a wee bitty about these things, are we still maligned for not agreeing with your thoughts.
Perhaps we are trying to convert those who have a history of thousands of years of their 'status quo' to look at life as we do.....
Yes perhaps we are trying to bring them Christianity et cetera but have we got to kill them to succeed??
Am not saying the 'war' is wrong/ just opening it all up to thoughts.....and remember the Russians were there for 11 years and then the 'bad guys' were being funded by the US...Wonder who is funding the 'bad guys' now??
Food for thought....
I was not out to make or score points, I was merely making an observation on the futilities and lies of all wars
No of course not, you can think what you like, I'm not bothered.. bit off track, but don't really think we're trying to bring 'em the teachings of Christ.. but was given to understand that Afghan was a cradle for those folkies who wanted to use the country to train in and then come out and blow us lot to bits..
An excellent post Drunken Duck, certainly helps to have insights like this
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject - Winston Spencer Churchill
Pray tell me what happened to that post?? Deleted?? By whom. It was quite informative
Actually it was really in relation to your comment to Fred....
I've always felt that to understand death you don't have to experience it....i.e. to be shot & killed doesn't mean you have to have it done to you.
The teachings of christ wasn't meant literally......
I know personally of people who went to Jordan to train the Afganis, and it was beyond that culture to understand our culture. It is like us....the UK and North America taking in Nigerian Boy Soldiers and then thinking that they will adhere to our way of life.....they just don't understand it...interesting article read recently on the teaching of the East..... they are attempting to soften their teachings in newer books, but there is little money to print new books so....they revert back to what their parents/ grandparents were told....because of the old books....am not being critical of anyones comments/ just that there are 'different ways to skin a cat'. Oh gawd now I will be up for cruelty!!!
And I don't condone the killing/ I am aware of someone who was killed.....not nice....
But we shouldn't get the George Bush mentality....'Lets Smoke em'......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_BenningBetween 1963 and 1965, in Fort Benning, the terrorist Luis Posada Carriles received CIA training in explosives and sabotage.
In 1984, following the signing of the Panama Canal Treaty, the School of the Americas relocated from Fort Gulick (Panama) to Fort Benning. After criticism concerning human rights violations committed by a number of graduates in Latin America, the school was renamed Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation.
In 1988 Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and Michael Fortier (the Oklahoma City bombing conspirators) met while in training at Ft Benning.
Both valid comments....'Do as we say and not as we do'....
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