If god created Adam and Eve then who is god, it cant be Jesus as he was created by god ??
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If god created Adam and Eve then who is god, it cant be Jesus as he was created by god ??
Blasphemy! Thou shalt burn in the fiery pits of hell for all eternity!
Religion's a lot of pish, isn't it?
If you were born a few thousand years ago in Greece you'd believe there were many gods.
Same if you were born in ancient egypt, or 1000 years ago in Scandanavia.
If you were born 20 years ago in the deep amazon, you might believe in Juju in the mountain.
The abrahamic god of judaism, Christianity, Islam etc is just another set of beliefs that will die in time.
They can't all be right.
I believe you'll find all the answers you are looking for here.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUQcCvX2MKk
Gosh, doesn't Griff Rhys Jones look young in that? He obviously hasn't discovered the elixir of youth! The others don't look so different today. Especially Pam. ;)
Oops, what was this thread about?
Steven Hawking's new book is called Why God Did Not Create the Universe. Has anyone read it?
Try this one then for more words of spiritual wisdom from somewhat younger looking soothsayers....
Religion tells us how to think and act but for some people it can be a guide. If we are left to find our own path we could all find our true selves.
I personally believe that there is no god. I believe our souls are on a path and in our lives we have to discover the path we should be on.
Depends if you are asking about God in the context of religion or God as the creator the universe or God as God. God is a name perhaps given to a concept rather than a "who".
IMHO there is no god as such, we were created from source and source created the universes and everything in them. We are all energy, all connected to everything full stop. It is human nature to try to label things. Perhaps as "GOD" is such a personal concept there is not definitive answer to the question?
K
Are you actually, genuinely asking, because I would be quite happy to explain a few things if you are... Or are you just writing to see what responses you get?
Quite seriously, Theology is an awesome subject irrespective of whether you believe in God or not, because it teaches you so much about people and their need/love of myths, higher beings and understanding of the earth.
Can you suggest some books for a beginner to start with? Preferably ones that theorise and cover all the angles rather than preach and assume belief.
Whether or not we believe in anything beyond physical reality, I'm sure any Theology book would be better than the empty claim that energy is all there is! Empty statements rarely impress.
Who cares.
Anyway, If there is a God, and I dont think there is personally, he is having a laugh. Just look at the duck billed platypus and the faces humans make mid coitus.
Theology .. loads of boring people arguing over who is right on issues that no can be sure even exists .. *yawn*
I care. So do many others, and I'm sure many of us yawn at you yawning at us.
I think your done for now, SIS, having lusted after Pamela Stevenson earlier in the thread! (twice!) 10th commandment - "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife, especially when thine neighbour is Billy Connolly!"
God is the answer to our questions, carved out of our own fear.
i totally agree.
as far as i am concerned, "god" whatever it or he/she is...
is something created to give explaination to all things unknown (or known lol)
to give strength to those who need to believe there is something looking out for them, or somewhere better to go
for those who can't accept that when a life ends, and we just cease to exist.
is a guidance for someone who's not sure how to go about their own life.
i personally do not believe in any god or such like.
i think its codswallop.
i personally think religion causes more conflict than it does good!
but i dont think any less of someone who has a faith.
if thats what they want or need in their life, well it works for them.
so who are we to burst their bubble.
I find it interesting how many people posting here have admitted, or inferred to being non-believers.
In the 2001 Scottish census 65% people claimed to be christian, 28% claimed to have no religion.
Is the org indicative of the population as a whole?
Do you think there are more or less non believers than the 28%?
Do you think many of the 65% claiming to be christian did so because they were brought up in christian surroundings rather than because of their current beliefs?
How many of the 65% are regular church goers?
How many of the 65% are regular church goers?
at a pure guess probably 5% if that.
other than a funeral, christening or wedding,
when was the last time you seen a church filled?
i can't say i've ever seen it.
LOL. I did not mean those sort of questions. Though now that you mention it I have met plenty who have prayed for that sort of thing- and read lots of stuff about people who say they have got that sort of stuff after they have prayed for it.
If it works for you then go for it.
Uh oh.... Just realised I have breached the 3rd Commandment - "Do not take the Lords name in vain"....
SIS, can I join you on the hike to the hills in search of that burning bush?
Went through Golspie yesterday, and just after leaving the place (going South) on the right, for a long time now the owner puts a big sign up his garden, changed regularly, yesterday it was: "In Trouble? Call on Jesus"
Can't find anything under 'J'...:confused
Can any members on here give me the number for Jesus, and when his opening hours are please?
I have two gods Stella and a certain Merlot from New Zealand, but then any half decent (or even vaguely decent) red will do (technically would these be demi gods if I can find solace in so many?)
Religion is for sheep.
Is this the one? http://www.jesuseverywhere.com/ but can't find an 0845 number..
Anyay...
"Who is God?"
Easy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hcfxm8wM0A
Okay, folks! In answer to the constructive points and questions, I would strongly recommend Immanuel Kant's Critique on Pure Reason and his Critique on Practical Reason. His work is quite objective in terms of whether or not God exists and is more concerned with the reasoning for human nature wanting/requiring the will to believe. However, Kant is not easy reading - for one thing, unless you read the original German text some of the translations can be a bit hazy!!!
If you want something readable then CS Lewis' Theological works are very good, but make sure that you get the original, unabridged texts as many Christian movements have picked and chosen their favourite bits and published books of them. Some of the best ones for looking at why people believe are Surprised by Joy and The Problem of Pain. I can recommend a few more, but I think that with these four should give you an idea of some reasons why people might want to believe.
Well, I take exception to some of the flippant comments on here, but to me they represent an uncertainty, so I won't dwell on it. I did a good few years at university studying and reading Theology and you who dismissed it as a boring thing, I don't think you know what proper theology is!!! It is far from boring but very complicated. Those of you who think that all theologians are religious, think again! Theologians are quite simply those of us who can consider arguments for and against the existence of God from a scientific - yes, that's right, Theology is a scientific based study!!! - perspective.
Religion is for sheep?! Interesting analogy, I assume you are referring to the Judeo-Christian reference of God as a shepherd - clever reference!!! It is not relevant to all the religions though... As for Demi-Gods, interesting point. It is a little known fact in the Western world that Hinduism (the "World Religion" that apparently has a multitude of Gods) is in fact a Monotheistic faith that puts a multitude of faces and characters (or avatars - to take the word back to its original meaning!) to one supreme Deity. It is a very good way of viewing the different sides of our human nature to believe.
Religion has, indeed, been the masking of many wars, but it is just that, most of the time. Why? Because people will fight for what they believe in, and who believes strongly in politics?! Hardly anyone! So, cake it in a promise of eternal life and religious garb, and more people will join up. So the politicians very often hide behind religion... BUT Religion itself, it is worth remembering, is a man made thing, faith and belief are something very different. But since I have suggested some books for those of you who are actually interested in people and their views, I won't bring in another argument just yet!!!
It's good to get back into the theological debating mode again!!
The whole thing is a waste of time as Thomas Aquinas pointed out.
There are truths of faith.
There are truths of reason.
The two cannot refute or contradict each other and any attempt to do so will end in frustration and ire.
You either believe or you do not.
If that is accepted then a lot of angst can be avoided.
"There we go, religion is for sheep!"
Hey don't you start on about Tesco!