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No warrant needed to enter homes
ALMOST 150 council employees across East Yorkshire have the power to enter any home or business without a warrant, it has been revealed.
There are 115 local authority officers with the power employed by East Riding Council, and 33 by Hull City Council.
They do not need a warrant or police officer escort to enter a property and can be done so using 1,043 different powers.
The number of officers in the East Riding is more than double the national average of 47 per local authority.
Northamptonshire County Council and Glasgow City Council have the most officers able to enter homes, with almost 500 each.
The figures were revealed after campaign group Big Brother Watch sent Freedom of Information requests to every local authority across the country.
Alex Deane, director of Big Brother Watch, said: "Once, a man's home was his castle.
"Today, the Big Brother state wants to inspect, regulate and standardise the inside of our homes.
"Councils are dishing out powers of entry to officers within their council for their own ease, without giving due thought to the public's right to privacy and the potential for abuse.
"There needs to be a much closer eye kept on the number of officers granted the right to barge into private premises without a warrant."
The Mail contacted East Riding Council's leader Councillor Stephen Parnaby who said he could not be drawn on the figures as he had not seen the campaign group's report.
However, he insisted that a national average which was not based on the number of people served by any one authority could not be considered reliable.
And it is believed the majority of officers with such powers are based in the child protection areas of each council.
Under what circumstances? They can't enter folk's houses willy nilly, they will need good reason.
Under what circumstances? They can't enter folk's houses willy nilly, they will need good reason.
I don't know, have just read this.
I know when in the Brigade that Fire officers may enter premises where there is a fire or there is reason to believe a fire has broken out. They can also enter neighbouring premises to fight a fire. A fire officer is entitled to force entry if necessary.
I've broken into a house next to a house on fire to get into the roof space.
But that's a bit obvious really..
Scorpio12thNov
28-Dec-09, 13:41
Under what circumstances? They can't enter folk's houses willy nilly, they will need good reason.
This has been happening in America for years, it was only a matter of time before other nations cottoned on to the idea.
You can be detained for up to 4months with no good reason, no lawyer, no phone call...nothing. During this time the police are rummaging through your home..."gathering evidence"[disgust]
Another reminder to us here of the amount of control we're under![evil]
I don't know, have just read this.
How do you not know if you've just read this? Could you say that Bigbrotherwatch a fairly balanced source of info?
How do you not know if you've just read this? Could you say that Bigbrotherwatch a fairly balanced source of info?
I haven't a clue about the big brother watch.
As i have just said i read this and thought it interesting enough to pass onto others.I wondered if anyone here could shed any light on this.
My understanding of what is written in the article is that if the councils mentioned so fell fit, they can send one of these officers to enter your property.
During this time the police are rummaging through your home..."gathering evidence"
Would you prefer Loud Grossvoice?
<adopts nasal twang> Who lives in a dump like this?
[lol]
northener
28-Dec-09, 14:38
This has been happening in America for years, it was only a matter of time before other nations cottoned on to the idea.
You can be detained for up to 4months with no good reason, no lawyer, no phone call...nothing. During this time the police are rummaging through your home..."gathering evidence"
Another reminder to us here of the amount of control we're under!
Nope, that's the amount of control the Americans are under...:Razz
Anyway, there are quite a few council officers who have the right of entry. Trading Standards, Social Services (child protection IIRC), Health/Food Hygene to name a few. I'd say they've all got the powers they need to do the job, nothing more. This load of cobblers is worded to give people the impression that every single pen-pusher on the Cooncils' payroll can barge into your living room whenever they see fit. Yet it then fails to back up this impression with any facts.
I note that the article had originally been lifted from the 'Daily Mail' - which automatically puts it into the category of tabloid claptrap.
Another potential headline for this piece could be: Immigrant Pensioner Council Bullies In Petrol Price Mortgage Outrage" [lol]
Nope, that's the amount of control the Americans are under...:Razz
Anyway, there are quite a few council officers who have the right of entry. Trading Standards, Social Services (child protection IIRC), Health/Food Hygene to name a few. I'd say they've all got the powers they need to do the job, nothing more. This load of cobblers is worded to give people the impression that every single pen-pusher on the Cooncils' payroll can barge into your living room whenever they see fit. Yet it then fails to back up this impression with any facts.
I note that the article had originally been lifted from the 'Daily Mail' - which automatically puts it into the category of tabloid claptrap.
Another potential headline for this piece could be: Immigrant Pensioner Council Bullies In Petrol Price Mortgage Outrage" [lol]
I was well aware that Social Services for child protection purposes were allowed to enter homes, but they usually do so with police in attendance.
I was not aware of the others you mentioned.
The article to me says that councils have a dedicated team of officers not related to those you mention, who can also enter your property.
The article is from the Daily Mail but not the one you are i think referring to. It is from the Hull & East Riding Daily Mail.
But they still have to get in touch with you and arrange a time for entry they cant just walk into your home without permision
porshiepoo
28-Dec-09, 15:35
Well, i'd like to see anyone attempt to get into here when the dogs are in. lol.
It would take one ruddy brave person to give it a go.
But they still have to get in touch with you and arrange a time for entry they cant just walk into your home without permission
Sorry Eddie, your wrong, for one, Her Majesty's finest HMR&C formerly HM C&E have the power to enter any premises in the country during the hours of daylight without a warrant, especially in Scotland where all that is needed is a piece of paper called a Writ of Assistance, no warrant is used in Scotland, and every major Customs office will hold one of these.
In the hours of darkness entry must be accompanied by a member of the police.
riggerboy
28-Dec-09, 17:25
ah no man is allowed to enter ma house without permission from ma wife,
she says it disna matter who the (enter sweary word here) they are, there no coming in here with muddy boots
changilass
28-Dec-09, 17:55
Social Services HAVE to have the police with them, they have no right of entry. Even in child protection cases they have to get the police.
Sorry Eddie, your wrong, for one, Her Majesty's finest HMR&C formerly HM C&E have the power to enter any premises in the country during the hours of daylight without a warrant........
I wouldn't be worrying about the customs manny kickin' yer door in. They've been "streamlined" pretty much out of existence.
Any bailiff or regular "house entering without warrant" types won't have a problem with dogs, geese though, now they are very good at guarding your property.
I think you can add the gasman and 'leccy boys to yer list too, should they feel the need to shut off the supply for safety reasons.
Bizarrely I think it's the coppers that have the least amount of rights of entry, but since when have the rozzers been bothered about the rule book.
roadbowler
28-Dec-09, 18:19
How do you not know if you've just read this? Could you say that Bigbrotherwatch a fairly balanced source of info?
Well, you seem to take the telegraph as gospel on global warming so, is this good enough for you?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../20000-council-workers-can-enter-homes-without-a-warrant.html
This is fairly old news, a year or so ago, many newspaper were writing about this as these powers can be used to even enter your home to check your house plants for pests or plant passports and even the check the energy efficiency of your fridge! [evil]
It appears with the help with the EU, the soviet style rule by councils is here. We pay them for it as well. Nice system isn't it? It also appears the councils have even more powers than the police now too.
I, too, would be interested in how often Highland Council exercises these powers. Would make an interesting FOI on www.whatdotheyknow.com (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com) ;)
Well, you seem to take the telegraph as gospel on global warming so, is this good enough for you?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../20000-council-workers-can-enter-homes-without-a-warrant.html
It's not good enough for me because your link doesn't work. :)
Try this 20,000 council workers can enter homes without a warrant (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6895854/20000-council-workers-can-enter-homes-without-a-warrant.html)
northener
28-Dec-09, 19:26
....20,000 council workers can enter homes without a warrant (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6895854/20000-council-workers-can-enter-homes-without-a-warrant.html)
That's rubbish, there's no way they'd all fit in a house at the same time.
roadbowler
28-Dec-09, 19:29
It's not good enough for me because your link doesn't work. :)
Try this 20,000 council workers can enter homes without a warrant (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6895854/20000-council-workers-can-enter-homes-without-a-warrant.html)
Cheers for the link fix!
That's rubbish, there's no way they'd all fit in a house at the same time.
Telegraph readers have big houses. They're all Tory toffs, or so we're led to believe.
Here's a typical one (http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalResidences/BuckinghamPalace/BuckinghamPalace.aspx)
Cheers for the link fix!You're welcome. :)
Telegraph readers have big houses. They're all Tory toffs, or so we're led to believe.
Ain't called the Torygraph for no reason.
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