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We Home Ed our youngest 2 daughters 4yrs & nearly 6yrs old, and after moving here 6months ago have not found any social groups. Is anyone else in the area also Home Educating and would like to meet up on a regular basis.
telfordstar
09-Dec-09, 14:25
We Home Ed our youngest 2 daughters 4yrs & nearly 6yrs old, and after moving here 6months ago have not found any social groups. Is anyone else in the area also Home Educating and would like to meet up on a regular basis.
Can i be nosey and ask why you home educate and do you get support from schools to help you. Ive always wondered thats how im asking.
We Home Ed our youngest 2 daughters 4yrs & nearly 6yrs old, ...
Excellent. I wish you all the best in this. :)
George Brims
09-Dec-09, 22:38
I've so far only met two groups of people who home school. People tend to do it either because of religion, or because they plan to raise a genius. Are you from one of those categories, or do you have some other reason?
In the first case there's usually a church to which people adhere which gives them some social contacts. The second group raise weirdos. I would have said "weirdos with no social skills" but having just called other people's kids weirdos, I would open myself to a chucking stones in glass houses riposte.
I've so far only met two groups of people who home school. People tend to do it either because of religion, or because they plan to raise a genius. Are you from one of those categories, or do you have some other reason?
In the first case there's usually a church to which people adhere which gives them some social contacts. The second group raise weirdos. I would have said "weirdos with no social skills" but having just called other people's kids weirdos, I would open myself to a chucking stones in glass houses riposte.
Interesting post - I know of at least 8 or 9 families who have home schooled their children at some point (mostly when they reached their teens) and so far the majority of them have turned out to be well rounded, social individuals - no different to any other child. Only the odd one or two have struggled to interact socially and that's due to their own personality, not the lack of interaction with other youths their age!
One big advantage of home schooling is your child gets your full attention unlike in a class environment where the attention of the teacher is divided between 20-30 students and it is impossible to give them all individually tailored tutoring! Also there is no rigid curriculum to stick to - you can teach your child anything you like on top of the usual maths & english, etc. One child I know of who is home taught is learning kayak surfing, squash, how to build a computer from scratch, landscape gardening, and many many more that I can't remember!! As far as home schooling goes the world is your oyster and many children still go on to sit exams and pass them and I'm sure it's done them no harm not going to school!
Having said that, both my children go to school because that's my choice for them. But if a parent chooses to teach their child at home - who are we to criticize?
changilass
10-Dec-09, 01:02
I wouldn't feel confident in home schooling.
If it was so easy then teachers wouldn't need to train for so many years and you wouldn't need specialist teachers for all the different subjects.
I take my hat off to anyone who does do it, as they must be highly inteligent individuals with the patience of a saint.
Aaldtimer
10-Dec-09, 04:04
I may be wrong, but I think you have to have a teaching qualification to carry out Home Education.:confused
One big advantage of home schooling is your child gets your full attention unlike in a class environment where the attention of the teacher is divided between 20-30 students and it is impossible to give them all individually tailored tutoring!
Fair point - but the teachers have the added bonus of qualifications and training. At primary school I suppose most people could cover most areas proficiently but when it comes to high school, I am sure most parents would struggle. I have qualifications up to postgraduate level but I would not dream of home educating as I do not have the breadth of specialist knowledge.
However, good luck to skylight as the choice is hers.
I don't think as many people home educate in Scotland as in England. There isn't the same support network up here as in England think if you choose to home educate up here your pretty much left to get on with it where as in England you have a curriculum to stick to & have regular visits from the education department.
When I looked into home educating my son the education department up here had no idea who I needed to speak to & were no help whatsoever. That put me off the idea straight away.
I may be wrong, but I think you have to have a teaching qualification to carry out Home Education.:confused
No you dont you just need to prove that your capable of providing a varied education & have access to the resources you need.
I think the only downside with home education is the kids will not be able to develop social skills and be able to interact with the other kids its a shame really because i think they lose out in there childhood not being able to have fun and inter act with other kids while learning and doing what the other kids do whether it be playful or mischief.
I just dont understand why people home educate there kids because the parents need time to do there things while the kids is at school and i think the kids need to go to school to learn as well social skills.
One big advantage of home schooling is your child gets your full attention unlike in a class environment where the attention of the teacher is divided between 20-30 students and it is impossible to give them all individually tailored tutoring! Also there is no rigid curriculum to stick to - you can teach your child anything you like on top of the usual maths & english, etc. One child I know of who is home taught is learning kayak surfing, squash, how to build a computer from scratch, landscape gardening, and many many more that I can't remember!! As far as home schooling goes the world is your oyster and many children still go on to sit exams and pass them and I'm sure it's done them no harm not going to school!
Having said that, both my children go to school because that's my choice for them. But if a parent chooses to teach their child at home - who are we to criticize?
My kids do "normal School" but also learn many other skills from my OH and myself after school and at the weekend so the above teaching of "kayak surfing, squash etc, etc" is nothing special to "home teaching" just normal parenting.
roadbowler
10-Dec-09, 15:38
hi skylight. Glad ye posted. I also home educate my daughter. As for peoples opinions on here of the pros and cons i won't comment because i'm aware of how these conversations go like including the above, weirdos and religious freaks? Lol So, my comment is, read the book, "Dumbing us down" by John Gatto then make your assumptions.
hi skylight. Glad ye posted. I also home educate my daughter. As for peoples opinions on here of the pros and cons i won't comment because i'm aware of how these conversations go like including the above, weirdos and religious freaks? Lol So, my comment is, read the book, "Dumbing us down" by John Gatto then make your assumptions.
There are many good reasons to home school. Some children are introverted and natural loners and are not particularly interested in social interaction anyway.
Unfortunately, I cannot envisage a complete overhaul of the system, but for people who take up the challenge to teach at home I wish them every success.
There are many good reasons to home school. Some children are introverted and natural loners and are not particularly interested in social interaction anyway.
Unfortunately, I cannot envisage a complete overhaul of the system, but for people who take up the challenge to teach at home I wish them every success.
If some kinds are natural loners thats the last thing they need to be removed from kids there own age they need to learn to adapt?
Margaret M.
10-Dec-09, 16:47
weirdos and religious freaks?
Studies show that home schooled children score significantly higher than others, in all subjects. Here in the U.S., in the national average scores, home schooled children rank in the 80-90th percentile compared to the 50th percentile for children in public schools. So why would any intelligent person classify parents who want to give their children the best education possible, as “weirdos”? I come in contact with many families that homeschool –- it is very common in my area so there are many resources and group activities at libraries, fitness centers and the like. As far as the argument that homeschooled children lack social skills, I wish all children could have social skills like those of the home schooled children I have met. Children acquire these skills from their parents, playing with children in the neighbourhood, participating in sports and other activities outside of school.
If some kinds are natural loners thats the last thing they need to be removed from kids there own age they need to learn to adapt?
Do you mean conform?
The quiet and obedient pupil tends to get left out because the extrovert gets more attention from the teachers.
Studies show that home schooled children score significantly higher than others, in all subjects. Here in the U.S., in the national average scores, home schooled children rank in the 80-90th percentile compared to the 50th percentile for children in public schools. So why would any intelligent person classify parents who want to give their children the best education possible, as “weirdos”? I come in contact with many families that homeschool –- it is very common in my area so there are many resources and group activities at libraries, fitness centers and the like. As far as the argument that homeschooled children lack social skills, I wish all children could have social skills like those of the home schooled children I have met. Children acquire these skills from their parents, playing with children in the neighbourhood, participating in sports and other activities outside of school.
Yes, from what I have seen too, that seems to be correct.
Do you mean conform?
The quiet and obedient pupil tends to get left out because the extrovert gets more attention from the teachers.
To be honest about it i hated high school and if there were an alternative to high school i would have tooken it i was never interested in learning back then and if i could turn back the clock i would change a lot of things like most people would do but i cant.
My brother in law is home schooled and is very intelligient and interacts easily in a social way. He is not home taught for religious reasons, and is certainly not a freak or weirdo. As with most things, if the right effort is put into something, the more you gain. If a teacher really wants a pupil to learn, this is evident from the teaching. I can fondly recall good teachers and appreciate the effort they put into their teaching. I can also recall teachers who frankly shouldnt be teaching. There are of course pupils who just dont want to learn. So for any educational method to work, the quality of the teacher is paramount.
Margaret M.
10-Dec-09, 22:11
My kids do "normal School" but also learn many other skills from my OH and myself after school and at the weekend so the above teaching of "kayak surfing, squash etc, etc" is nothing special to "home teaching" just normal parenting.
Too few parents do activities like this with their children. You and your better half :Dhave done a superb job of raising smart, well-rounded individuals. It is so good to see young folks staying busy and taking advantage of what the area offers rather than hanging around the street corners.
Every child I have seen home taught has been socially dysfunctional. If you want a well rounded child support the school, extend their learning with extra-curricular activities but don't home teach them.
Every child I have seen home taught has been socially dysfunctional. If you want a well rounded child support the school, extend their learning with extra-curricular activities but don't home teach them.
Yours is a very dysfunctional post and claiming generalities to the point of absurdity, like George Brimms and his 'weidos' nonsense. :eek:
Every child I have seen home taught has been socially dysfunctional. If you want a well rounded child support the school, extend their learning with extra-curricular activities but don't home teach them.
I dont see it as being quite as black and white as that. As a conservative estimate, 20 children/adolescents commit suicide in the UK every year as a result of bullying, while 69% of children report being bullied. Some parents have tough choices to make on the matter.
greenasiamcabbagelooking
11-Dec-09, 01:51
teaching your child at home is a matter of choice, some agree with it, some don't ...
there's a very strong arguement against home education because it reduces the kid's social interaction, development etc ...
but what if your child was being bullied at school or just 'hated' being at school.
one size doesn't fit all when it comes to education, some kids gain more in the classroom with a group, some on their own, some like to listen to music.. why not some at home ?
education needs to be flexible, there are identified learning styles that some pupils don't 'fit' into ...
if your child's learning needs can be met and achieved at home then why not ? so long as the parent can competently teach a broad range of subjects and as long as the kids are mixing with their peers in the evenings/weekends .... :)
can we hear from some mini orgers who have been home taught .... (assuming you can use a keyboard)
sassylass
11-Dec-09, 02:37
Parents who homeschool their children tend to have problems with control/authority/arrogance, which are the parents' fear based issues and have nothing to do with the child's needs. I've only ever known one child who was truly better off being homeschooled. He was a bright boy with Asperger's and was bullied at school, and his mother, grandmother and grandfather were well qualified to homeschool as they all had advanced teaching credentials. His siblings flourished at school while he flourished at home. He is now a public school teacher, himself, and turned out very well.
Metalattakk
11-Dec-09, 04:28
Parents who homeschool their children tend to have problems with control/authority/arrogance, which are the parents' fear based issues and have nothing to do with the child's needs.
Nail. Head. Hammer.
Well said.
With regard to the 'well rounded' part of one post,I could see a child taking on the parents' entrenched views on life, big time.An being as that can encompass a mighty big scope-I have known some well educated an qualified people whom you would not wish to put in charge of a tadpole!
Point being, in tune with most of the thread,imho,a secular, enclosed,or restricted environment, an bye definition (I am better equipted than the state to teach my child) implyies a certain amount of that.There are exceptions,an it would require two well in tune parents to bring it off,not parrots of each other,rather more well aware of the diversity that is required in a childs upbringing to enable junior to interact with their peers ,in a way that may be considered normal-as opposd to ---not.
To anyone who brings it off,well done an good luck,it is much more than I could do.Have to say thou'I am not in favour of it personally.
Yours is a very dysfunctional post and claiming generalities to the point of absurdity, like George Brimms and his 'weidos' nonsense. :eek:
Perhaps you should read my post again. I am not "claiming generalities" I am simply stating what I have experienced. Or have we got to the point that people are no longer able to communicate their own observations.
Perhaps you should read my post again. I am not "claiming generalities" I am simply stating what I have experienced. Or have we got to the point that people are no longer able to communicate their own observations.
So what is ...
If you want a well rounded child support the school, ... don't home teach them.
... if not a generality?
An opinion based on my observations and the situation I outlined.
I take it you home school?
but what if your child was being bullied at school or just 'hated' being at school.
Then I'd say school is a good grounding for life... Life is unfair - lots of people end up in jobs they hate but they do it because they have to. I have two friends who were home schooled and struggled staying in employment in their teens/early twenties as they hadn't ever had to do anything they didn't really want to. They adjusted eventually but I do feel that school gives you the advantage of learning cope to do things that aren't exactly enthralling.
As for bullying, I should have been the prime candidate for being bullied (short, clever, science geek, tomboy) but I never was. Yes I struggled when I moved into secondary school, but I learnt when to keep my head down and when to stick up for myself. I have found this a brilliant skill to have in my working life - there are a lot of bullies in the workplace in general and my dealings with people like this as a child mean that I have found it easy to adapt my mannerisms to get the better of them ;)
A child who is taught how to deal properly with confrontations should never find themselves in a position where they are bullied.
An opinion based on my observations and the situation I outlined.
And definitely a generality, right? :)
Not a generality...a comment on what I have observed. If I observe a well rounded socially integrated home schooled person I will happily acknowledge it.
You never answered my question are you home schooling or home schooled?
And definitely a generality, right? :)
Doesn't sound so. Unless you are trying to argue that they have a very general life? You point is coming across as argumentative again :roll: Any chance of laying off on the though crime accusations :roll:
Is it true it's mandatory for gingers?
Is it true it's mandatory for gingers?
Yes, because they're nuts. :)
I find that most children who are home educated don't have the social skills of school taught children. I think this is down to not socializing with others on a daily basis & without the classroom environment they aren't getting others opinions, arguments on subjects. I personally find that alot of home educated people come across as argumentative when discussing a subject due to them believing that the opinion they were taught is always right!:lol:
I find that most children who are home educated don't have the social skills of school taught children. I think this is down to not socializing with others on a daily basis & without the classroom environment they aren't getting others opinions, arguments on subjects. I personally find that alot of home educated people come across as argumentative when discussing a subject due to them believing that the opinion they were taught is always right!:lol:
Sadly, I agree. Talking to home-educated people is like talking to an amalgamation of their parents.
Sadly, I agree. Talking to home-educated people is like talking to an amalgamation of their parents.
As opposed to speaking to people conventionally educated in schools who tend to be an amalgam of their teachers or the state led curriculum over which they have no choice? People such as you?
I find that most children who are home educated don't have the social skills of school taught children. I think this is down to not socializing with others on a daily basis & without the classroom environment they aren't getting others opinions, arguments on subjects. I personally find that alot of home educated people come across as argumentative when discussing a subject due to them believing that the opinion they were taught is always right!:lol:
That the case in Ingerland, is it?
... as in England ... as in England ... as in England ...
State educated children tend to repeat themselves a lot. :lol:
I find that most children who are home educated don't have the social skills of school taught children. I think this is down to not socializing with others on a daily basis & without the classroom environment they aren't getting others opinions, arguments on subjects. I personally find that alot of home educated people come across as argumentative when discussing a subject due to them believing that the opinion they were taught is always right!:lol:
Like a certain orger we all know then ;) [lol]
butterfly
13-Dec-09, 20:51
As opposed to speaking to people conventionally educated in schools who tend to be an amalgam of their teachers or the state led curriculum over which they have no choice? People such as you?
Well said.Right back at them!
Well said.Right back at them!
Ha, ha. Yes, it was nicely put. :lol:
Well said.Right back at them!
Only if you've missed the point entirely. :lol:
butterfly
14-Dec-09, 01:27
Only if you've missed the point entirely.
Aint missed no point,but if my post rattled ya,well i am well chuffed.Good thread,far better than your pish poll's.[lol][lol][lol]
Where I came from home education was fairly widespread, In general the parents were very good at teaching their children all kinds of life skills including a good grounding in English and maths.
By the time they were in their teens they wee fully conversant with shoplifting, stealing cars, breaking into houses and various other necessary social skills including how to avoid being gainfully employed.
When they got to eighteen they had a perfect command of the English used in the various forms for claiming benefits and were so brilliant at maths that they could ensure they got every penny they were entitled to and many more that they weren’t.
For them home education was considered as a necessary part of growing up and was something they recommended to all their friends. There are many things for which a school education does not prepare a young mind for which home education can.
For certain people and families home education is a perfect solution.
Where I came from ...
Where do you come from?
roadbowler
14-Dec-09, 03:56
I'm afraid the socialisation argument holds no water. Find me one study that says home educated children lack social skills. Even one? There isn't one. If you care to actually look you'll find that all studies done on the subject say home educated children have equal or much more advanced social skills than children that are educated conventionally. This is an obvious result if you look at what "socialisation" actually means in terms of positive and negative socialisation. People like to flog this dead dog of a debating point yet, it's completely unfounded and proven several times over to be completely untrue.
I canna help but feel that in many of these posts, somehow people feel threatened in someway that other people choose to educate their children at home and I really don't understand why that should be. These posts also have an undertone of intolerance towards people like me who make a choice and make it their duty to educate their own children.
I wonder what breeds this intolerance?? :roll:
I shudder to think that any child will be described as 'well rounded' as if that is what mainstream education should strive for in all cases. Grey descriptions for grey kids. :)
If ever there was a good reason to home teach a child then that is one staring me in the face.
Unless I have read the start wrong and have possibly missed a post somewhere, I don't believe that even one "Orger" has actually answered this thread.
It just sounds to me as though people are discussing or throwing insults at each other, (as quite often happens with other threads) about the topic of home schooling. :roll:
So with respect to Skylight, I shall be the first to actually reply to your question !!
No Skylight, I can't think of anyone who home educates their children, but I hope you find some like-minded people and be able to meet up with them. Good luck!
Unless I have read the start wrong and have possibly missed a post somewhere, I don't believe that even one "Orger" has actually answered this thread.
It just sounds to me as though people are discussing or throwing insults at each other, (as quite often happens with other threads) about the topic of home schooling. :roll:
So with respect to Skylight, I shall be the first to actually reply to your question !!
No Skylight, I can't think of anyone who home educates their children, but I hope you find some like-minded people and be able to meet up with them. Good luck!
Hear hear. (Mea culpa to your charge :eek:)
I'm sure Skylight will find someone around here
Where I came from home education was fairly widespread, In general the parents were very good at teaching their children all kinds of life skills including a good grounding in English and maths.
By the time they were in their teens they wee fully conversant with shoplifting, stealing cars, breaking into houses and various other necessary social skills including how to avoid being gainfully employed.
When they got to eighteen they had a perfect command of the English used in the various forms for claiming benefits and were so brilliant at maths that they could ensure they got every penny they were entitled to and many more that they weren’t.
For them home education was considered as a necessary part of growing up and was something they recommended to all their friends. There are many things for which a school education does not prepare a young mind for which home education can.
For certain people and families home education is a perfect solution.
I think you are speaking about children who are supposed to go to school but choose to bunk off and their parents who don't give a hoot one way or the other?
However, those who choose to home educate and their children have previously been in school are monitored by the relevant education dept's. Their parents are generally dedicated. If they don't do it properly the kids have to go back to school. So your uninspiring and downbeat post totally misses the point, I think. :confused
porshiepoo
14-Dec-09, 12:12
Cherokee, you're correct. Other than yourself, no one has bothered to answer Skylights original question.
Unfortunately I don't know of any other home educators so I've not been able to add anything to this topic either, except for this pointless statement of course. :lol:
roadbowler
14-Dec-09, 12:55
well, i'm sure that anyone who does home educate in caithness wanting to contact skylight will pm her instead of diving in here to discuss only to be slagged off and told their kids are socially inept and dysfunctional. Don't ye think?!;)
I canna help but feel that in many of these posts, somehow people feel threatened in someway that other people choose to educate their children at home and I really don't understand why that should be. These posts also have an undertone of intolerance towards people like me who make a choice and make it their duty to educate their own children.
I wonder what breeds this intolerance?? :roll:
I think it's just ignorance. Many would rather dismiss a subject as nonsense because they don't know the facts about it, rather than look into it for themselves to see if it is truly worthwhile! And if there's a bandwagon to be jumped on - it will be!!;)
Sadly, I agree. Talking to home-educated people is like talking to an amalgamation of their parents.
Have ye amassed all the facts from yer "Polls" Crayon.
Tell ye what there's no Bullying at home compared to the school experience for some poor kiddies who have no choice but to tackle it every day eh?
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Originally Posted by BRIE http://forum.caithness.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?p=631957#post631957)
I find that most children who are home educated don't have the social skills of school taught children. I think this is down to not socializing with others on a daily basis & without the classroom environment they aren't getting others opinions, arguments on subjects. I personally find that alot of home educated people come across as argumentative when discussing a subject due to them believing that the opinion they were taught is always right!
[quote=Stavro]That the case in Ingerland, is it?
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Originally Posted by BRIE http://forum.caithness.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?p=630904#post630904)
... as in England ... as in England ... as in England ...
[quote=Stavro]State educated children tend to repeat themselves a lot.
I shall refrain from arguing my point Stavro as you are always right!!:roll:
Well I have sat back and watched this thread and unfortunately it has progressed exactly how i thought it would! But here is where I stick my neck out and wait for the volley of abuse and critsism. My Husband and I home educate our son! He is 14 and has been educated since the school he attended couldn't cope and wouldn't attempt to cope with his needs, and before you all kick off with all the usual garbage, don't judge when you are not aware of all the facts. This wasn't a decision taken lightly and it was done on recommendation of the Education Officer. We are lucky to have had lots of help from the education office and have made sure our son is socially active with both adults and children his own age, as we didn't want him turning out like some home ed kids we knew! We have regular checks by the education dept and everytime they have visited they have had nothing but praise for his progress , last time they said he was the one of the brightest, politest, and socially agreeable young men they had ever met! To say we are proud is an understatement! So while yes there are abusers of the home ed system out there, some of us are doing well and thriving too, we have taken alot of stick because of our choices and usually from those that are not completely aware of the whole situation or dont even want to be aware. It's not ideal for everyone but for some, like us it works and works well!
oh and by the way skylight if you want to meet up for a coffee and a chat just drop me a pm.
Well I have sat back and watched this thread and unfortunately it has progressed exactly how i thought it would! But here is where I stick my neck out and wait for the volley of abuse and critsism. My Husband and I home educate our son! He is 14 and has been educated since the school he attended couldn't cope and wouldn't attempt to cope with his needs, and before you all kick off with all the usual garbage, don't judge when you are not aware of all the facts. This wasn't a decision taken lightly and it was done on recommendation of the Education Officer. We are lucky to have had lots of help from the education office and have made sure our son is socially active with both adults and children his own age, as we didn't want him turning out like some home ed kids we knew! We have regular checks by the education dept and everytime they have visited they have had nothing but praise for his progress , last time they said he was the one of the brightest, politest, and socially agreeable young men they had ever met! To say we are proud is an understatement! So while yes there are abusers of the home ed system out there, some of us are doing well and thriving too, we have taken alot of stick because of our choices and usually from those that are not completely aware of the whole situation or dont even want to be aware. It's not ideal for everyone but for some, like us it works and works well!
oh and by the way skylight if you want to meet up for a coffee and a chat just drop me a pm.
Well done to you nicnak. I admire anyone who takes on the task of home schooling. There are many parents out there who wish that they were in a postition to do so. By the sound of things you have done a great job and should be proud of yourselves. I'm sure skylight will be delighted that you have responded and want to meet up with her. After all that is what this thread was all about.
A few insults have been aimed at posters on this thread and it's so obvious it wasn't done because of a difference of opinion in home education.:roll: There's only one word to describe them, childish.;)
I think if it works for you and your family then why not, everyone is too quick to judge especially seeing as they do not to your personal back round
:D
Thank you Ash, I agree it's like everything else you only need a few bad apples to sour the whole pot!
We Home Ed our youngest 2 daughters 4yrs & nearly 6yrs old, and after moving here 6months ago have not found any social groups. Is anyone else in the area also Home Educating and would like to meet up on a regular basis.
Well done to you too skylight. Hopefully you and nicnack can meet up and support each other.:)
porshiepoo
14-Dec-09, 17:01
Sorry Niknak and Skylight, I'd forgotten that NikNak home schools.
I should have introduced the two of you. Oops! Sorry!
For what it's worth, to those of you who may believe that home tutoring leaves children somehow intellectually challenged or socially defunct, Skylights children IMO are above average intelligence for their age.
Yes, I do know them and I have to say that they are intelligent, inquisitive little girls. Skylight is doing a brilliant job with them.
My opinion on home educating is that it's a personal choice. Home educators certainly aren't taking an easy option and as long as they are able to offer their children a varied education at home then I think they should be supported as much as possible.
Socialisation doesn't begin and end at school. There are many groups and activities available outside of school that offer kids a great chance to be with kids their own age.
I don't think as many people home educate in Scotland as in England. There isn't the same support network up here as in England think if you choose to home educate up here your pretty much left to get on with it where as in England you have a curriculum to stick to & have regular visits from the education department.
When I looked into home educating my son the education department up here had no idea who I needed to speak to & were no help whatsoever. That put me off the idea straight away.
Go and ask nicnak for some advice, BRIE, since she seems to be experienced in this area and has sort of contradicted your claims regarding the Education Department. It's never too late to learn, eh? :)
stavro why dont you stop trying to cause trouble and stick your nose somewhere else, you already are well aware Brie and I are related Sisters even, and talk quite openly about everything including home ed! when she tried to get help there wasnt any , but luckily when i needed it there was ! so until you know what your talking about shut up!
stavro why dont you stop trying to cause trouble and stick your nose somewhere else, you already are well aware Brie and I are related Sisters even, and talk quite openly about everything including home ed! when she tried to get help there wasnt any , but luckily when i needed it there was ! so until you know what your talking about shut up!
Well, well. This thread just gets more and more interesting. :)
I don't know how I was supposed to have known that you and BRIE are "related Sisters," as opposed to "unrelated Sisters," but I am also surprised to hear that the Education Department is subject to such extreme fluctuations in this regard. Perhaps we need to try and make sure that they get their act together, what do you think? Sometimes being wonderful and other times being useless. :eek:
Well, well. This thread just gets more and more interesting.
I don't know how I was supposed to have known that you and BRIE are "related Sisters," as opposed to "unrelated Sisters," but I am also surprised to hear that the Education Department is subject to such extreme fluctuations in this regard. Perhaps we need to try and make sure that they get their act together, what do you think? Sometimes being wonderful and other times being useless.
Grammar police out again :Razz I think there was a missing punctuation mark (you pick what you want - comma, semicolon or dash would all work) rather than a semantic error. "We are related; sisters even" would have been my choice :)
Now wind your neck in and be nice for once! It's blooming Christmas :)
Go and ask nicnak for some advice, BRIE, since she seems to be experienced in this area and has sort of contradicted your claims regarding the Education Department. It's never too late to learn, eh? :)
I dont really need to ask advice now Stavro as my son has now joined the Army! I would imagine he would put up a bit of a protest if I tryed to home educate him now:lol:
Well, well. This thread just gets more and more interesting.
I don't know how I was supposed to have known that you and BRIE are "related Sisters," as opposed to "unrelated Sisters," but I am also surprised to hear that the Education Department is subject to such extreme fluctuations in this regard. Perhaps we need to try and make sure that they get their act together, what do you think? Sometimes being wonderful and other times being useless. :eek:
Of course you know were related sisters as opposed to unrelate(adopted)sisters Stavro, stop being silly your her neighbour for goodness sake.
Yes im afraid the education department is subject to extreme fluctuation especially if a member of the education department leaves, it tends to put the whole place in turmoil with no-one knowing whos in charge of what!
what was your experience like with the education department? it would be interesting to know if they have improved or not.
SKYLIGHT did you find them helpful?
I dont really need to ask advice now Stavro as my son has now joined the Army! I would imagine he would put up a bit of a protest if I tryed to home educate him now:lol:
I suppose he would, BRIE, but you have other children don't you? If I remember rightly, you were recently whining on these forums about Caithness General ignoring your 1-year-old, for instance, whilst you ignored the "PLEASE RING BELL FOR ATTENTION" sign. :lol:
Grammar police out again :Razz
Nice to see you pop back, Leanne. Of course, grammar and post quality are of some relevance on a home education thread when coming from someone who claims to be able to home educate, wouldn't you say? :)
I suppose he would, BRIE, but you have other children don't you? If I remember rightly, you were recently whining on these forums about Caithness General ignoring your 1-year-old, for instance, whilst you ignored the "PLEASE RING BELL FOR ATTENTION" sign. :lol:
hmm hes at it again!! Have you still got a bee in your bonnet about me closing that thread due to you becoming to personal!
Yes i have other children as well you know but their not at school age yet, & we have an excellent primary school here that my children will be attending.
... due to you becoming to personal!
I was answering a question that you asked, as you know. That was in response to some nonsense that you had posted there.
But anyway, back to the topic, I'm glad that your local primary school is good. No need for you to home educate then.
P.S. "to personal" should be "too personal" :eek:
I was answering a question that you asked, as you know. That was in response to some nonsense that you had posted there.
But anyway, back to the topic, I'm glad that your local primary school is good. No need for you to home educate then.
P.S. "to personal" should be "too personal" :eek:
:lol:.
Yes back to topic. would you like to share you home education experiences with us? youve obviously had a good education, do you think its a more benefical method of teaching?
.youve obviously had a good education, do you think its a more benefical method of teaching?
Thank you for your kind words and for your correct observation. Home education is certainly beneficial, but whether it can be said to be "more" beneficial [than state education] or not is subjective.
I think you are speaking about children who are supposed to go to school but choose to bunk off and their parents who don't give a hoot one way or the other?
However, those who choose to home educate and their children have previously been in school are monitored by the relevant education dept's. Their parents are generally dedicated. If they don't do it properly the kids have to go back to school. So your uninspiring and downbeat post totally misses the point, I think. :confused
Not really. I was, and still is, the case that some people were getting very bitter, twisted and warped about people who home educate their children.
I just thought I would inject a totally extreme version of the bitter, twisted and warped version of people who home educate.
If some posters wish to take extreme views I simply thought I would take botterness to the ultimate extreme.
Where do you come from? Somewhere else.
telfordstar
15-Dec-09, 10:48
This thread is amusing me now i keep coming back to see if there is any more catty comments written. Totally of thread but funny all the same lol.
I think as standards in education fall more and more parents will consider home schooling.
I do wish it is something I had thought about more.
I would definately consider home educating my other children in the future if they come up against the same problems in high school that my son did.
He spent the majority of his last school year either at home or sat in the crush hall due to the lack of teachers,places in chosen subjects. For the last 3 months he was supposed to be at school he spent 4 days on work experience & 1 day at college (organised by the school) we were then sent a letter from the guidance teacher stating he wasnt making any progress in school due to to many unexplained absences!:eek: & could we make an appointment to discuss it!
Im thankful hes now left!
porshiepoo
15-Dec-09, 12:55
Personally I don't see why anyone would be against home education.
IMO a school environment can be extremely over rated, especially nowadays.
Bullying is at a high and class sizes are growing rapidly.
The ever increasing usage of the internet and the masses of information it enables us to obtain makes home education much more informative, varied and in depth than many schools are able to offer.
I really don't see that any child is going to suffer from receiving one on one schooling at home and IMO a lot of the "social" skills that a child learns at school can be far from productive, but just as easily gained in club and family activities.
Please note though that I am NOT suggesting we do away with a school education, or that it isn't a productive environment most of the time or that teachers are being taken over by the tinternet. (Just wanted to clear that up. :roll:).
Let's face it the majority of us have at some point in our adult life made the statement that we've learnt more since leaving school.
I passed all my exams at school but I have to say Maths was way over my head, I just couldn't grasp it. However since leaving school I've been able to master all those subjects I once found difficult.
The problem IMO is that the education system is too set in its ways. There's a certain way of teaching that is adhered to and if a child doesn't grasp that particular way of learning they fall behind. Show them a different way to learn the same thing though and they often pick it up right away. All kids are different and being expected to be at a certain level at a certain age or else you are classed as behind just doesn't work.
All it does is leave a child with a horrific memory of school and with feelings of inadequacy and uselessness.
Tubthumper
15-Dec-09, 17:54
Stavros, does home education make a normal person turn into a pompous erse?
Stavros, does home education make a normal person turn into a pompous erse?
So you were home-educated, Tub.
Tubthumper
15-Dec-09, 18:11
So you were home-educated, Tub.
hahahahahah.... that's a good one! It's grand to see such a high standard of humour in our educated brethren.
Ever thought of going on the stage Stavro? As a clown maybe?
hahahahahah.... that's a good one! It's grand to see such a high standard of humour in our educated brethren.
Ever thought of going on the stage Stavro? As a clown maybe?
I love the circus,do they still fire clown out of cannons?:lol:
I would like to reply to the many messages that have been raised due to my simple message concerning the possibility of other home educating parents in the area. I would firstly like to say a big Thank You to all of you who send messages both of goodwill and kindness, and others too. I would also add my comments below are purely my findings on home educating my children and friends whom have taken the same decision. I in no way think that school is a bad thing, and as parents we all do what we believe is best for our children, some children flourish in a school environment whilst others do not. At the end of the day we all love our children and are all doing what we believe the best for them.
My decision to home educate my daughters was not one that was taken lightly but a decision that was thought out, and I would add at this point that nothing is set in stone and at anytime in the future should the girls make a request to attend school then that would be their decision and one that would be respected by me.
For me, I believe that we begin to home educate our children much younger than 5yrs old. Without any formal lessons we have guided them through learning to walk, talk, wash, dress, count and numerous other basic skills, anyone of which would daunt the most experienced teacher if it were not for the child’s natural ability and desire to learn.
Reading alone can occur at widely differing ages despite the same encouragement and access to books.
Most parents are uniquely well-placed to understand what is best for their own children, and individual children need very different things and as most long-term home educators have observed our children’s needs can dictate gradual shifts of style and emphasis over the years. If we respond flexibly to each of our children and listen to them as equal partners in their education rather than relying on predetermined academic theories about children in general we can trust them to make us into the educators they need. As home educators there is no need for repeated testing and writing down because it is patently obvious when an explanation has made sense.
Moreover they are not excluded from adult life and learn how to cope in public, on transport, in shops, bank, dentist etc etc from a young age and they gain experience in handling the dilemmas and crises of real life and seem to develop a mature confidence.
In brief as far as social skills go, home-educated children are more likely to have friends outside a narrow age band and can thus be themselves.
So quickly in response to a few comments, No we are not weirdo’s just a normal family, No we are not in a strange religions group, No my girls are not loners or introvert, No you do not need to be a teacher, just dedicated. Some Home educators are very structured some follow an autonomous approach, but whether we send them to school or not we all just want the best and I wish everyone whichever path they may be on the best of luck and a Happy Christmas
To end, no, I do not have the answers to all the questions, as this is just as much a learning experience for me too. If the girls ask me something I do not know the answer to we find out, we look it up, we investigate, we learn. And no I cannot carry out technical laboratory experiments, but should they seem to excel in one particular area then that is something we will have to work on, because for us education is always a work in progress and never stops..
Finally thank you for all your comments on the subject..
Good on you, Skylight, for providing such a well thought out and considered response. You are a great advert for home education. Best of luck to you & yours. :D
Excellent post, Skylight - well thought out, and covers lots of different questions people no doubt had about home education! I'm sure your children will grow up to be very intelligent like their mum! ;)
whitecloud
20-Dec-09, 13:28
Well done skylight you do what you feel is best for you and your family,I admire your comment , may you and your family have a blessed christmas and new year and I wish you all the best with your home ed.
love light and laughter
whitecloud x:D
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