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Which Scottish city would you live in if you had a choice?
I've chosen the 6 officially designated cities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_cities#Scotland_2) in Scotland, which includes Inverness but leaves out some large central belt towns.
This thread was prompted by the Dundee versus Edinburgh (http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?t=87502) thread 'hijack', for which I apologise to Kevin Milkins.
If i had the choice i'd move out of this country alltogether, probably to Norway.
I've chosen Inverness, though I would prefer to live somewhere between Perth and Inverness.
BTW, I was wondering a few days ago what this months Crayola poll was going to be. :roll:
silverfox57
03-Oct-09, 16:46
voted for none of above,as love where i live now, out in the country-side
in caithness,
teddybear1873
03-Oct-09, 16:47
I chose Inverness. If I had another option, it would be somewhere looking over Loch Ness.
redeyedtreefrog
03-Oct-09, 16:52
I like Edinburgh.
I voted none of the above as i don't wish to tie myself to just uk. i want to go all over the world and live in many places.;)
I chose Inverness. If I had another option, it would be somewhere looking over Loch Ness.
loch ness is nice. its a nice area to live over. :)
I originally wasn't going to include 'none of the above' but I didn't want to exclude anyone or restart the Highland Clearances. :eek:
I will be surprised if 'none of the above' doesn't get the highest percentage of the vote on this particular forum.
I'm sorry for the lack of recent polls Jox, I'll try to do better in future. :)
Bobinovich
03-Oct-09, 17:00
Sorry but I could not live in a city again - close to Inverness maybe but that's about it.
changilass
03-Oct-09, 17:07
Lived in too many cities to ever want to live in one ever again.
I'm sorry for the lack of recent polls Jox, I'll try to do better in future. :)
A lack? This is your 7th poll since June. :roll:
I voted none of the above as i don't wish to tie myself to just uk. i want to go all over the world and live in many places.;)
Surely the fact that it says "Scottish" city in the poll would indicate it is not including other countries and it is just your preference out of the Scottish options?
Anyway for me - cannot beat Glasgow.
ETA: It does help having friends and family up here when living there though. Nice to know you can escape for a break if need be.
Has to be Edinburgh. Also, note the lack of votes for Dump Dundee...
I originally wasn't going to include 'none of the above' but I didn't want to exclude anyone or restart the Highland Clearances. :eek:
I will be surprised if 'none of the above' doesn't get the highest percentage of the vote on this particular forum.
I'm sorry for the lack of recent polls Jox, I'll try to do better in future. :)
ach crayola you know he enjoys them really ;)
Surely the fact that it says "Scottish" city in the poll would indicate it is not including other countries and it is just your preference out of the Scottish options?
Anyway for me - cannot beat Glasgow.
ETA: It does help having friends and family up here when living there though. Nice to know you can escape for a break if need be.
Aye it is just my preference. But i'm a bit of a nomad and don't really want to settle anywhere. I'll find the place i want to stay in for a long time some time but untill then anywhere and everywhere is my calling. ;)
Douglas Cowie
03-Oct-09, 17:52
Can't believe you have missed out the Fair City of Perth
Can't believe you have missed out the Fair City of Perth
Well I am still constantly amazed at the number of people that can't read.
Please go back and re-read Crayola's original post.
Has to be Edinburgh. Also, note the lack of votes for Dump Dundee...
Not so bad if you're a student as there are pubs and clubs close at hand. But the city is an absolute mess for many people who work there or have to move around the city. Many city centre dwellers are finding it increasingly difficult to get tradesmen to come and do jobs for them without paying a premium.
In the year of "the Homecoming" the place was an appalling disgrace.
If the tram project continues as it is even more businesses will move to the periphery.
i chose edinburgh just for the fact that i love the place!
Not so bad if you're a student as there are pubs and clubs close at hand. But the city is an absolute mess for many people who work there or have to move around the city. Many city centre dwellers are finding it increasingly difficult to get tradesmen to come and do jobs for them without paying a premium.
In the year of "the Homecoming" the place was an appalling disgrace.
If the tram project continues as it is even more businesses will move to the periphery.
It depends where you live for almost everything. For example, you say "Not so bad if you're a student" - well I live in accommodation out near Cameron Toll near KB, in amongst some of the biggest damn houses I've ever seen, and I can assure you that there is not a pub within 20 minutes of walking and not a club within 40 minutes. And I don't really know what you mean by saying "the city is an absolute mess": I'm only in my 4th week here but I've found the public transport (specifically the buses) to be excellent, and everyone seems to be getting on with everything. To be honest I've heard very very few people spend any time complaining about the trams. And I'm not so sure about businesses moving to the periphery - it's not as if it is difficult to get to the shops and stuff on Princes St, and I was there this morning and it didn't seem particularly quiet.
Oh well.
A lack? This is your 7th poll since June. :roll:
And this one is just as obscure as the rest [lol]
Cities are nice to go to for a short break but to live permanently in a City is frankly crap.
I see that the option "non of the above" is leading , I think this is probably because contributors to this forum love the small town country life of Caithness.
Boozeburglar
03-Oct-09, 20:06
Cities are nice to go to for a short break but to live permanently in a City is frankly crap..
Based on living in what city? I have lived in a few and I love every thing about it, and I am from a rural/farm background. :)
cuddlepop
03-Oct-09, 20:22
I liked staying in Glasgow and Inverness but wouldnt move back to a city to live every again its just far too busy.:eek:
Based on living in what city? I have lived in a few and I love every thing about it, and I am from a rural/farm background. :)
I wouldn't have said what I said if I had not lived in Cities during my prolonged lifetime. London - Crap, Liverpool -- Really Tatty Crap , Edinburgh - Sophisticated Crap, Tokyo -- Mad Bedlam Crap Capetown -- Scary.
I'll stick to Caithness now thankyou , where you are welcomed with genuine warmth and has a community spirit that would be hard to match elsewhere
Boozeburglar
03-Oct-09, 21:08
Just what makes London crap? I can't see that myself. It really depends where you lived in London. It is so huge and diverse; it is more down to where you choose to live within it than the city itself.
It depends where you live for almost everything. For example, you say "Not so bad if you're a student" - well I live in accommodation out near Cameron Toll near KB, in amongst some of the biggest damn houses I've ever seen, and I can assure you that there is not a pub within 20 minutes of walking and not a club within 40 minutes. And I don't really know what you mean by saying "the city is an absolute mess": I'm only in my 4th week here but I've found the public transport (specifically the buses) to be excellent, and everyone seems to be getting on with everything. To be honest I've heard very very few people spend any time complaining about the trams. And I'm not so sure about businesses moving to the periphery - it's not as if it is difficult to get to the shops and stuff on Princes St, and I was there this morning and it didn't seem particularly quiet.
Oh well.
Alan16 I hope you enjoy your time in Edinburgh. It’s can be a lovely city with lots of great things going on but today’s Edinburgh isn’t a patch on what it once was. I’ve only just left the Lothians after twenty years and in that time I’ve seen the city go into a steady decline. Over recent years lots of small businesses and shops have moved out initially because the Greenways discouraged trade and latterly because of the increase in road works.
You’re luckier than most you have a huge choice of buses running you down Clerk Street, Nicholson Street and South Bridge to the West End. Have you been on a No3 or 33 bus in South Bridge at 4.30 PM? It’ll often take an hour to get to Shandwick Place. For many commuters travelling by bus is an adventure because the inward route is not necessarily the same as the outward route. Routes are changed at short notice because of road works.
The city is a mess because traffic management is done on an ad hoc basis. The road works often leave an area filthy and strewn with all sorts of debris. During this summer visitors had to be issued with maps to enable them to negotiate the length of Princess Street because many pedestrian routes were closed.
Mobile tradesmen are having a particularly hard time moving around the town and retail businesses lose customers as the road works close off whole streets.
Edinburgh folk might well ‘get on with it’ but I put that down to their stoicism. They’ve seen all the expensive traffic management experiments come and go including a proposed congestion charge that got vetoed by the residents. Many people are critical of the Trams because they don’t believe the benefits of just one route are worth the widespread inconvenience and cost.
As I say I hope you enjoy your time in Edinburgh, and good luck with your studies.
has to be edinburgh. also, note the lack of votes for dump dundee...
hahaha......;)
And this one is just as obscure as the rest [lol]
It's not actually obscure. Slightly misleading, perhaps,but I am guessing the OP intended that.
I've not voted btw.
- well I live in accommodation out near Cameron Toll near KB, in amongst some of the biggest damn houses I've ever seen, and I can assure you that there is not a pub within 20 minutes of walking
Oh well.
Try south along Mayfield Road just before you get to Liberton Road.
teenybash
03-Oct-09, 22:42
If I had to live in a Scottish city I would choose Glasgow, probably the west side or somewhere along the Clyde.................but thank goodness I live in Caithness and this is where I shall stay.......it's a great place.:)
Try south along Mayfield Road just before you get to Liberton Road.
I'm on Gordon Terrace which runs parallel to Liberton Road, and I know Mayfield Road, so thanks for the advice. :D
Cities are nice to go to for a short break but to live permanently in a City is frankly crap.
I see that the option "non of the above" is leading , I think this is probably because contributors to this forum love the small town country life of Caithness.
Ditto.....born/raised ,had super time as a child ,growing upn in Dundee,but there is absolutely NO way that I would ever live in any city whatsoever.
alan16 is just a young whippersnapper living in the candy store just now..............One day[hopefully] he will grow up and learn...and stop insulting Dundee.
Wonder where he grew up???
:lol::roll:
spaceddaisy
04-Oct-09, 09:48
I love where I live now but went for Stirling as my choice. I lived there for four years as a student and it's a lovely wee place, though I think I prefer it because it's really only a big town as opposed to a city.
I used to live 20 minutes drive from Glasgow- you couldn't pay me enough to live there (or in any of the bigger cities for that matter) but it's great to visit and the choice of shops is good.
Inverness is a nice place to visit too but when there are gorgeous areas of countryside just a few miles out from the city I'd choose to live out there instead.
Aberdeen and Dundee are some of the most depressing places I've been- not a big fan of them at all.
Try south along Mayfield Road just before you get to Liberton Road.
Are you encouraging underage drinking Canuck, [lol]
spaceddaisy
04-Oct-09, 09:54
Just what makes London crap? I can't see that myself. It really depends where you lived in London. It is so huge and diverse; it is more down to where you choose to live within it than the city itself.
I liked visiting London for the touristy things and seeing the sights etc but to live there would be my idea of an absolute nightmare.
I've never been in a place with so many people and felt so lonely. People stand very close to you on the tube and wouldn't even think to smile or pass the time of day with you. The people barge down the street , would never think to be polite and say sorry for bumping into you. Bus drivers don't even smile at you when you get on the bus.
As a city it's incredibly diverse, have never seen so many different people in one place but they should embrace their diversity by talking to other people.
Douglas Cowie
04-Oct-09, 10:40
Well I am still constantly amazed at the number of people that can't read.
Please go back and re-read Crayola's original post.
I can read perfectly well thank you Serenity however just because some government committee decides to declassify and redefine a city's status it doesn't change the fact that Perth has been regarded as a city for hundreds of years. In fact Alex Salmond has now acknowledged that declassifying it was a mistake and city status should be restored at the next opportunity.
(From Wikipedia, Crayola's original point of reference)
City status
The classic definition of Perth has been as a city, and traditional documentation confirms that this has been true since time immemorial (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Time_immemorial). However, in the late 1990s, the UK government (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Government) and the Scottish Executive (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Scottish_Executive) re-examined the definition[17] (http://forum.caithness.org/#cite_note-16) of a city and produced a list of approved cities, from which Perth was omitted. It is now considered to be a "former city", a similar definition to that of Brechin (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Brechin) or Elgin (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Elgin,_Moray). Current road-signs around the borders now call it "The Perfect Centre" instead of "The Fair City", although directional signs within still indicate "City Centre". In June, 2007, Alex Salmond (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Alex_Salmond), the newly-elected first Minister of Scotland backed a campaign to confer city status on Perth, saying it should be granted "at the next commemorative opportunity".[18] (http://forum.caithness.org/#cite_note-17) The architectural writer John Gifford has said that Perth is a city "to its inhabitants and most outsiders, but not all bureaucrats.
I was trying to make the point that if I had to choses a "city" to live in it would be Perth having lived there previously I think it should have been included.
I love Edinburgh but only as a place to visit - if I lived there I think the novelty would wear off...
Is Perth not a city? I thought it was... I like Perth :) (and most of my family live there ;) )
NickInTheNorth
04-Oct-09, 11:47
I wouldn't live in a city if you paid me!
I come from Dundee and I have lived in Both Edinburgh and Glasgow.
1. I do not believe in going back as it is never quite the same the 2nd time around.
2. I would not like to live in any City again as I much prefer the Rural Life.
If I had the Money I would like to build a house perhaps in Perthshire, there is some real nice countryside there. On saying that I love Caithness so perhaps I would just build a House somewhere in Caithness.
BillyEspie
04-Oct-09, 19:58
even though Oban aint a City it is the most beautiful place to live
Invisible
04-Oct-09, 20:56
I wouldn't live in a city if you paid me!
I wouldn't live in Dundee if your paid me
even though Oban aint a City it is the most beautiful place to live
I turned down a job in Oban to live in Caithness. Fell in love with the area!! Oban is too touristy to live there - lovely place to visit though :)
Whitewater
04-Oct-09, 21:32
I am very happy living in Wick. However, if I had to move out I would move to either Aberdeen of Inverness. I voted Aberdeen but I'm 50:50 about it, I have a lot of good friends living in both towns.
I turned down a job in Oban to live in Caithness. Fell in love with the area!! Oban is too touristy to live there - lovely place to visit though :)
Touristy............where were u,Leanne in the summer,??could not get around thurso as everyone went through on the way to jog?????:roll::lol:
I wouldn't live in Dundee if your paid me
DUNDEE would not want folk like u!!!!:lol::lol:
I wouldn't live in Dundee if your paid me
I feel similarly. Can any of the Dundeenians convince us otherwise?
I had intended to include Perth until I discovered it had lost its city status and I thought a list of six was more than enough.
I'd like to like Oban but I'm generally disappointed by its downmarket tackiness. The ferries out are good though. :)
I expected 'none of the above' to win out on this forum and either Inverness or Edinburgh to be second. You have to live in Glasgow to appreciate it properly.
Aaldtimer
05-Oct-09, 03:26
..."Dundeenians"...? My goodness, are you so ignorant?
As a born and bred Dundonian, I find this a wee bit puzzling as to why my home City is being so negatively persecuted.
Dundee is no different from any other City in the UK.
It has it's good points and it's bad.
Every City/town in Scotland/UK has the same problems, unemployment/crime/drugs/inner city deprivation, why single out Dundee?
[disgust]
Metalattakk
05-Oct-09, 03:39
..."Dundeenians"...? My goodness, are you so ignorant?
I suspect it could be a dialect thing - along the lines of the famous "Feh pehs 'n' an Ingin' 'in 'an 'aw".
No need for the chanty-wrassling. ;)
Aaldtimer
05-Oct-09, 03:51
No need for the chanty-wrassling. ;)[/quote]
...""Feh pehs 'n' an Ingin' 'in 'an 'aw"."...
"Aninginaneana" refers to bridies my dear Sir, absolutely nothing to do with Pehs!! Harrumphh!
The ingin bridie had two holes in the crust, the plehn ane had one, simples, tcheeck!:lol:
Whit the hell is "chanty-wrassling"...a fight over a piss pot?:confused
oldmarine
05-Oct-09, 05:07
I enjoy where I currently live, but if it was to be any place in Scotland I would choose the place where I spent a lot of time: Caithness.
I feel similarly. Can any of the Dundeenians convince us otherwise?
I had intended to include Perth until I discovered it had lost its city status and I thought a list of six was more than enough.
I'd like to like Oban but I'm generally disappointed by its downmarket tackiness. The ferries out are good though. :)
I expected 'none of the above' to win out on this forum and either Inverness or Edinburgh to be second. You have to live in Glasgow to appreciate it properly.
The word is DUNDONIAN!!!:lol:
..."Dundeenians"...? My goodness, are you so ignorant?
As a born and bred Dundonian, I find this a wee bit puzzling as to why my home City is being so negatively persecuted.
Dundee is no different from any other City in the UK.
It has it's good points and it's bad.
Every City/town in Scotland/UK has the same problems, unemployment/crime/drugs/inner city deprivation, why single out Dundee?
[disgust]
My feelings precisely..........folk are much safer in Dundee than Glasgow/Edinburgh/Aberdeen...........less MURDERS!!!I think the critics have probably just passed through Bonnie Dundee,never seen the lovely parks,the history of the city,some lovely architecture.Although I would never go back to live there,I keep my memories in my heart.
There is a programme tonight ,about Dundee re.. dundonians going out to calcutta/India for the jute industry.I am very keen to watch.
Remember...JUTE,JAM and JOURNALISM.
It is presented by the well known dundonian actor,Brian Cox.
So it is up with the bonnets of BONNIE DUNDEE[ remember him.]:lol:
=Aaldtimer;603003]No need for the chanty-wrassling.
...""Feh pehs 'n' an Ingin' 'in 'an 'aw"."...
"Aninginaneana" refers to bridies my dear Sir, absolutely nothing to do with Pehs!! Harrumphh!
The ingin bridie had two holes in the crust, the plehn ane had one, simples, tcheeck!:lol:
Whit the hell is "chanty-wrassling"...a fight over a piss pot?:confused[/quote]
Real bridies..............and I think the dialect is a lot better than some I have heard!!!Ahh the memories.I have never heard of chanty-wrassling??????????????:roll:
I feel similarly. Can any of the Dundeenians convince us otherwise?
I am shocked Crayola, you really should get your terminology correct, the term should be Dundonians, or Berry pickers [lol]
Seriously Dundee is a great place, the city of Discovery, the home of Jute, Jam and Journalism, and of the most iconic of Scots, Oor Wullie, The Broons and best of all Desperate Dan.
I joined my first ever ship in Dundee, went to my first dance hall, and struggled and fumbled in a few closes up the Hilltown, happy times :)
I am shocked Crayola, you really should get your terminology correct, the term should be Dundonians, or Berry pickers [lol]
Seriously Dundee is a great place, the city of Discovery, the home of Jute, Jam and Journalism, and of the most iconic of Scots, Oor Wullie, The Broons and best of all Desperate Dan.
I joined my first ever ship in Dundee, went to my first dance hall, and struggled and fumbled in a few closes up the Hilltown, happy times :)
Thank u.............u know what u are talking about!!!;)
Invisible
05-Oct-09, 11:06
DUNDEE would not want folk like u!!!!:lol::lol:
I know i've been and was too cheeky in some of the local pubs.
roadbowler
05-Oct-09, 11:29
voted for none of the above as city living was never for me and never will be. Grew up in a place more remote than caithness and far worse winters so, i like it here better and only lived in two cities in my whole life, Berlin and Edinburgh. Both were allright but, only prefer to visit now. Hubbie born and bred dundonian. However, he spent longer living in edinburgh after he flew the nest than dundee so fair to say he wouldn't be keen to go back to dundee no matter how much he'll tell people how great it is. Lmao
There is a programme tonight ,about Dundee re.. dundonians going out to calcutta/India for the jute industry.I am very keen to watch.
Remember...JUTE,JAM and JOURNALISM.
It is presented by the well known dundonian actor,Brian Cox.:lol:Did you watch it? I enjoyed it in parts but what a miserable so and so Brian Cox is. :(
Im living in Glasgow, and love it, so thats my pick!
Did you watch it? I enjoyed it in parts but what a miserable so and so Brian Cox is. :(
I too watched this programme, as I started my working life at 15 as a Creeler (apprentice weaver) in a large Jute carpet mill, Thomson and Shepherd.
Sorry Crayola I do not agree with your opinion of Brian Cox, because of his own roots, the programme producers could not have found a better narrator.
Did we watch the same programme golach? By the end I thought he was going to drown himself in the Hoogly.
Did you watch it? I enjoyed it in parts but what a miserable so and so Brian Cox is. :(
I certainly did and that is just his way..............I saw nothing wrong with his narration.It was very interesting ...as my grannny worked in a mill as a weaver.Very hard going ,but no complaints from her............8 children to raise as a widow.
her pinkies were bent with pulling the jute through the machine.
No benefits then for single parents............;)
No benefits indeed....
I knew almost nothing about the Jute industry in Dundee nor did I know that so many went to India from Dundee so I enjoyed the programme, and in particular the many lengthy anecdotes from those very people. But I thought Brian Cox's misery was unnecessary.
No benefits indeed....
I knew almost nothing about the Jute industry in Dundee nor did I know that so many went to India from Dundee so I enjoyed the programme, and in particular the many lengthy anecdotes from those very people. But I thought Brian Cox's misery was unnecessary.
A lot of folk in scotland know very little about Dundee.........but it was and still is [to me] my home city and my family are steeped in tradition and history of Dundee.
I knew of jute wallahs ,I actually had a wee friend whose parents went out to Calcutta.
I found it all fascinating,especially the scottish cemetery and the church.
It is very sad though that the workforce is living in the poverty that the mill workers lived in all those years ago.
I hope things get better for them.........:(
Aaldtimer
09-Oct-09, 16:52
No benefits indeed....
I knew almost nothing about the Jute industry in Dundee nor did I know that so many went to India from Dundee so I enjoyed the programme, and in particular the many lengthy anecdotes from those very people. But I thought Brian Cox's misery was unnecessary.
I thought my old pal's misery was absolutely genuine, and reflected the realisation of what his parent's, and my mother's working conditions were!
We used to pass some mills on the way to school and if any of the loading bays were open, the noise was deafening, and the heat and stoor would almost choke you.:eek: That's about as close as we ever got to see what went on inside.
The song he sang a verse of was "The Jute Mill Song", and was written by Mary Brooksbank who was a friend of, and worked alongside, my Mum in the mill.
A lot of folk in scotland know very little about Dundee.........but it was and still is [to me] my home city and my family are steeped in tradition and history of Dundee.
I knew of jute wallahs ,I actually had a wee friend whose parents went out to Calcutta.
I found it all fascinating,especially the scottish cemetery and the church.
It is very sad though that the workforce is living in the poverty that the mill workers lived in all those years ago.
I hope things get better for them.........:(The Scottish church was indeed fascinating. I've seen one with a similar history somewhere but for the life of me I can't remember where it was.
Dundee is almost unknown here in the west, those of my ken who do know it tend to be dismissive Old Firm supporters that attend away games! :(
I thought my old pal's misery was absolutely genuine, and reflected the realisation of what his parent's, and my mother's working conditions were!
We used to pass some mills on the way to school and if any of the loading bays were open, the noise was deafening, and the heat and stoor would almost choke you.:eek: That's about as close as we ever got to see what went on inside.
The song he sang a verse of was "The Jute Mill Song", and was written by Mary Brooksbank who was a friend of, and worked alongside, my Mum in the mill.Ok, point taken regarding Brian Cox's misery but it did make for a miserable programme albeit probably deservedly so. I watched it with a native Glaswegian and my somewhat negative reaction to BC's misery was mild compared with hers.
Aaldtimer
10-Oct-09, 02:55
Ok, point taken regarding Brian Cox's misery but it did make for a miserable programme albeit probably deservedly so. I watched it with a native Glaswegian and my somewhat negative reaction to BC's misery was mild compared with hers.
Let's face it, if it was going to be true to it's subject , it was never going to be a "feel good " programme.
I thought it was a great documentary and told it like it was! Warts and all.
I know it shouldn't have been a 'feel good' programme but Cox was so taciturn towards the end that time dragged and I was actually glad when it ended.
I know it shouldn't have been a 'feel good' programme but Cox was so taciturn towards the end that time dragged and I was actually glad when it ended.
I think your out voted on the choice of narrator for this programme Crayola, more of us liked the choice of Brian Cox, but each to their own.
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