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Ash
23-Sep-09, 11:02
I just watched the Interview with Sarah Capewell on This Morning and I cannot believe what this poor woman had to go through, please everyone sign the petition to get this law changed

her story
http://www.itv.com/lifestyle/thismorning/more/prematurebabyjaydencapewell/

the petition
http://justice4jayden.webs.com/thepetition.htm

Hibeechick
23-Sep-09, 11:05
How very sad :(

Signed.

Ash
23-Sep-09, 11:08
My daughter was prem she was born at 28 weeks and for being so early she was actually really healthy, at the time of being in hospital with her there were many others some as early as 23 weeks and they survived

Alice in Blunderland
23-Sep-09, 11:16
As a mother I can understand her grief and anger however I am cautious about giving the right to demand treatment..... this is a very, very difficult area. :(

I was always of the opinion that in such cases it should be a joint decision made by both the parent and medical staff involved in each circumstance and putting the welfare of both the mother and child as priority.

tonkatojo
23-Sep-09, 12:50
[QUOTE=Alice in Blunderland;598402]As a mother I can understand her grief and anger however I am cautious about giving the right to demand treatment..... this is a very, very difficult area. :(


Unless you have paid private insurance. ;)

shazzap
23-Sep-09, 14:18
This has sickened me to my stomach.

Any baby born alive and kicking has the RIGHT to medical help, that is my opinion.

How can anyone let alone those who took an oath to help the sick and injured stand by and let a baby struggle for life. How can this be classed as a miscarriage or stillborn if the baby is born alive?

This baby must have been in severe stress and it is inhumane to let this happen.

shamrock2007
23-Sep-09, 17:22
Omg that is awful what they put that poor woman through, maybe the baby wouldn't have survived but at least they could have tried. My daughter was born at 30wks & my son at 34wks, neither of them had any problems other than being small.

Alice in Blunderland
23-Sep-09, 17:42
[QUOTE=Alice in Blunderland;598402]As a mother I can understand her grief and anger however I am cautious about giving the right to demand treatment..... this is a very, very difficult area. :(


Unless you have paid private insurance. ;)


Even private insurance would not have helped in this instance. :(

Would it not have been more distressful to this baby to have a medical team poking prodding and doing things to it taking it away from its mum possibly to die alone in an incubator ?

Or the other option to die in the arms of mum being cuddled and kissed and whispered to without being poked prodded and stuck alone in an incubator.

I know what I would want if it were my baby born that early.

Miscarriage: Inadvertent loss of a pregnancy before the fetus is viable. This term is used for foetuses up to twenty two weeks gestation.

Leanne
23-Sep-09, 18:22
I'm not sure of the exact statistics but something like 90% of babies born under 26 weeks die despite medical intervention (the death is counted as any time within a year of birth to include complications). Of the 10% that survive 90% of these have serious medical or neurological problems.

My friend had a loop excision to her cervix which meant she kept going into early labour. Her first baby died was born at 25 weeks and died, her second baby was born at 26 weeks and survived with no known complications, her third baby survived but was severely brain damaged and had other problems and had to be fed through a naso gastric tube for the rest of his life - he died at 3 years old.

A mother needs to remember when pushing for life that she has responsibilty for that life whatever the outcome for the rest of the child's life (and sometimes for the rest of their adult life too)

The statistics I read are from Manchester Womens and Childrens. This is a big specialist hospital with neonatal intensive care. Babies born here have the best chance of life. Babies born in non-specialist hospitals or DGHs simply do not have the facilities to care for these sick babies. If a baby were born at 22 weeks there it is unlikely it would survive the transport to a specialist centre. If I were the mother I would rather my baby die in my arms than alone in the back of an ambulance :(

purplelady
23-Sep-09, 22:59
I feel for thatb poor mother i really do and i belevie if her baby was born alive they should have tried to help him maybe he would not have made it or maybe he would and may have had things wrong with him but who are we to play god am sure whatever his parents would have loved him and cared for him for as long as they had him , had a friend who was pregnant same time as i was and she gave birth at 24 weeks her son is 13 now yes he has a few problems but hey he survived x

Leanne
24-Sep-09, 00:06
who are we to play god

But you could also say that about intervening. You could argue that by not treating, if the child survives it is god's will. Who are we to try and manipulate this?