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Hi there
It has been brought to my attention that someone is spreading the rumour that I am self-taught and not certified for the therapies I offer. I would like to assure everyone that I am fully certified and insured in all my therapies. I have also just completed my Clinical Hypnotherapy Training as well as Master Practitioner of NLP (accredited by The General Hypnotherapy Standards Council, The Hypnotherapy Society, The Hypnotherapy Association, The British Institute of Hypnotherapists and the Hypnotherapy Register and the Professional Guild of NLP)
If anyone has any concerns about anything I offer or would like the details of my qualifications,insurance or most importantly client testimonials, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Very best wishes
Donna
percy toboggan
22-May-09, 16:57
Whilst we're on the subject I'd like to mention my cycling profficiency and 25 yard breast-stroke certificate.
Most of the others are of no interest.
oh....i have those too Percy ;) :P
Whilst we're on the subject I'd like to mention my cycling profficiency and 25 yard breast-stroke certificate.
Most of the others are of no interest.
You obviously didn't attain a spelling proficiency certificate! [lol]
Hi there
It has been brought to my attention that someone is spreading the rumour that I am self-taught and not certified for the therapies I offer. I would like to assure everyone that I am fully certified and insured in all my therapies. I have also just completed my Clinical Hypnotherapy Training as well as Master Practitioner of NLP (accredited by The General Hypnotherapy Standards Council, The Hypnotherapy Society, The Hypnotherapy Association, The British Institute of Hypnotherapists and the Hypnotherapy Register and the Professional Guild of NLP)
If anyone has any concerns about anything I offer or would like the details of my qualifications,insurance or most importantly client testimonials, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Very best wishes
Donna
Its bad news if someone is spreading rumours but might be a good idea if your doing house visits to have a portfolia of your qualifications and services you offer so you can show to new customers and present ones that way you can kill the rumours an reassure your customer base.
Alice in Blunderland
22-May-09, 18:14
Lelebo you will never win with gossips and people who pass on rumour. You can shout from the rooftops what you have they wont want to know.
Ignore them and keep on offering the services you provide ,eventually they will become bored and move onto the next person. :)
Lelebo you will never win with gossips and people who pass on rumour. You can shout from the rooftops what you have they wont want to know.
Ignore them and keep on offering the services you provide ,eventually they will become bored and move onto the next person. :)
Well said Alice, I totally agree with you.
Thanks :) You're totally right! I don't actually do home visits but all my certificates are displayed in my treatment room for everyone to see. I guess it's just a bit worrying when you're starting a business and trying to grow it and help people and you find out that people are trying to poach clients by telling them you're not qualified :(
teenybash
22-May-09, 18:46
Lelebo, rumours like this tis are usually started through jealousy.....pay no heed to giblets talking.;)
I'll be making an appointment with you in the foreseeable future ....
Alice in Blunderland
22-May-09, 18:49
Thanks :) You're totally right! I don't actually do home visits but all my certificates are displayed in my treatment room for everyone to see. I guess it's just a bit worrying when you're starting a business and trying to grow it and help people and you find out that people are trying to poach clients by telling them you're not qualified :(
Life is full of knocks.
Chin up and ignore them it will die down and if you send the customers away satisfied then their recommendations will counter the rumours. :)
Thanks :) You're totally right! I don't actually do home visits but all my certificates are displayed in my treatment room for everyone to see. I guess it's just a bit worrying when you're starting a business and trying to grow it and help people and you find out that people are trying to poach clients by telling them you're not qualified :(
To be honest about it i think its very unproffessional to try to gain work buy slagging of competitors they must feel threatened by you if i was u i would just ignore it and dont get into the argument.If you are giving out a good service and have a natural abilty to deal with and get on with all the different types of peoples personalty thats half the battle not everyone has the natural ability if you no what i mean.
I dont no about u but i always think when someone is talking to you and slagging someone else of i always wonder what they are saying about me when im not there i think its just one of those things that is part of life i suppose i wonder how much people think that when they hear that person slagging of u.
Welcomefamily
22-May-09, 23:48
The problem with Hypno therapy is that there is no approved training or registration at the moment except for medical hypnotherapy which is regulated by the British Psychological Society as part of a Psychotherapeutics Programme, however membership is highly restrictive requiring an honours degree in Psychology with a MSc or D Psych along with clinical experience and placements.
However the development of the Hypnotherapy Regulation Forum which was formed at the UK Confederation of Hypnotherapy Organisation on Wednesday 18th Feb 2009 goes a long way to making a start establishing those regulations.
Having recently moved to a different area of Psychology following a return to University and retraining, I no longer deal in clinical areas however I do know a great number of psychotherapists who have never had the recognition they deserve which is also changing under new registration.
I have also just completed my Clinical Hypnotherapy Training as well as Master Practitioner of NLP (accredited by The General Hypnotherapy Standards Council, The Hypnotherapy Society, The Hypnotherapy Association, The British Institute of Hypnotherapists and the Hypnotherapy Register and the Professional Guild of NLP)
Good grief, I'm almost asleep already after reading the H word so many times in just one sentence. :eek:
Hi Welcomefamily - I think it's an issue with all therapies. This is why I spend a long time deciding on the right course and ensuring that the bodies it was accredited by were those who were working closely with the government regarding regulation.
kitty kat
23-May-09, 01:04
what sort of things can be cured with hypnotherapy ?
just wondering
The problem with Hypno therapy is that there is no approved training or registration at the moment except for medical hypnotherapy which is regulated by the British Psychological Society as part of a Psychotherapeutics Programme, however membership is highly restrictive requiring an honours degree in Psychology with a MSc or D Psych along with clinical experience and placements.
However the development of the Hypnotherapy Regulation Forum which was formed at the UK Confederation of Hypnotherapy Organisation on Wednesday 18th Feb 2009 goes a long way to making a start establishing those regulations.
Having recently moved to a different area of Psychology following a return to University and retraining, I no longer deal in clinical areas however I do know a great number of psychotherapists who have never had the recognition they deserve which is also changing under new registration.
The UKHCO, http://www.ukcho.co.uk has been running for some time now and is a good start towards the single register and an attempt at legislation. I have my doubts that the field will become legislated, due to the many politics and also differences within schools as to what hypnosis actually is. I have been running clinical trials for over a year, which involves measuring neurophysiology and trance states, measuring this on a state of the art physiology measuring device which contains EEG readings. i have been doing this as i have been thinking of writing a book which gets to the core of what hypnosis potentially is and how the perception of hypnosis is often radically different to the experience.
This has shown to me that states of change are unique to the individual and vary. There is no one definite state of hypnosis, and its not as many people believe. In previous workshops we have shown this and demonstrated the EEG machine. This is why the field will be hard to regulate. However it does need it.
The reason being that anyone can learn hypnosis, it only takes 20 minutes to learn hypnosis, it takes much longer to learn the therapeutic application, which can range from direct suggestion, metaphor, indirect, CBT etc, and this on its own will make legislation difficult.
Hypnosis has been well established in Caithness, Helen Wilson being the longest standing practitioner in the county, and i think followed by myself. There are a few people based over in Thurso and Scrabster also. At the moment only Helen and myself are listed on the http://www.ukcho.co.uk website as practitioner here in Caithness, and the reason we are on there is that this organisation is an umbrella organisation, and everyone in one of the 20 schools that agreed with the idea of this organisation were placed on this register and I think until the end of this year, and i assume at the end of this year there will be some sort of membership fees. I hope http://www.ukcho.co.uk follows the idea at the APHP in that it prohibits testimonials in your advertising. I adapt this policy as i feel its false advertising and breaks the aspects of patient and client confidentiality.
Going back to the initial aspects of this thread, my only gripe with this thread is that it mentions poaching, which implies that one of us in the field is attempting to poach her customers, and doesn't show our field in a good light, and i would urge her to contact who ever it is she thinks is poaching clients to establish the facts, as many of us who belong to a professional body and are member of http://www.ukcho.co.uk and work to a code of ethics, and several of us have tried hard for the last 10 or so years to bring hypnotherapy to a good standing here in Caithness, and i personally, and note the *personally* feel a thread such as this makes several implications about the practitioners here in Caithness, which may or may not be unsubstantiated.
As for what hypnosis can and cant treat then this is down to the individual and their condition, but generally hypnosis is seen to treat phobias, trauma, etc, but it can treat a wide and varied amount of conditions. Many practitioners will do a free introduction session as the relationship between the client and practitioner is exceptionally important, as you need rapport and understanding. I know in my own practice that on several occasions i have not been the right person for a potential client and refer them on. There are several threads on hypnosis here in the org spanning a few years that discuss various aspects and conditions treated etc.
Andrew.
Hi Andrew
Actually my problem was with someone spreading rumours about my qualifications and it was not related to my hypnotherapy practice - I merely mentioned these as an example, because it was my most recent qualification.
My client was directly approaced by someone who said that they better going to them because I was self-taught (not true) - of course, my client who already had good results with me declined. My concern is that this person is spreading false information about me in an attempt to increase their own business. Your advice is good and I intend to contact the person directly and assure them of my qualifications and insurance (which of course includes protection cover against slander). I'm also delighted to note that my qualification allows me to register with UKCHO although of course, as with all therapies, there are several bodies all claiming to be the one in most direct consulation with the government.
I think it's great for people to have options and wonderful that there are such experienced hypnotherapists in the county.
I stand by my point that it is very unprofessional (and against an association's code of ethics) for one professional to directly 'slag off' another. I know it would certainly make me think twice about using that person.
I should also say that I did my Reiki training with Helen Wilson - she's a lovely lady with a very genuine interest in people. She also did a past life regression (hypnosis) for me which I found fascinating :D
Good grief, I'm almost asleep already after reading the H word so many times in just one sentence. :eek:
:D you must have been hypnotised by the H's ;)
cuddlepop
23-May-09, 10:09
I think who ever is doing this feels threatend by your results and is trying in what ever way they can to discredit you.:roll:
As Alice says,ignore them and carry on being the professional they are not.:Razz
The proof of the puddings in the eating. If someone offers a service, especially a service where the aim is to help manipulate someones consciousness, or life script to change a particular way of thinking, its the results that matter nothing else.
I would hazard a guess that there are as many licensed charlatans in the mind market as there are unlicensed ones. Professionalisation is no respecter of complex mental difficulties in anyone least of all the tharapist. Even Freud, the father of all this therapies stuff would struggle to be licensed today because of the personal crap he brought into the psychoanalytical relationship.
Therapy, whether it comes from a scientific and academic source or the more modern New Age source being spoken about here should be judged only by its results and not necessarly by its professionalisation.
As for someone poaching your clients. Surely this is not the forum to bring up something of an ethical nature? I honestly cant believe that you guys, with all your qualifications, are getting involved in this in public.
Donna,
Sorry, i must have read your post wrong, as i felt given you posted your hypnosis qualification that you were meaning that area, and my reply was also in repsonse to welcomefamily's excellent post about the present situation in hypnosis.
However i stand by my feeling that you should address it to the person in the appropriate field and therapy rather than posting here, as they may not see it here, it fuels rumours, and the best way to resolve this for yourself may be to have it out with them, as rumours tend to mutate from person to person...
A.
Point taken guys - you're absolutely right - and I will be contacting the person directly. My thinking in posting here was to address the situation with anyone this person might have been in contact with.
Gleeber - I'm with you 100% - the proof of the pudding is always in the eating and the 'fanciest' qualfications in the world do not necessarily make a good therapist.
Thanks to everyone for their comments..
The UKHCO, http://www.ukcho.co.uk.... the http://www.ukcho.co.uk ...hope http://www.ukcho.co.uk ...of http://www.ukcho.co.uk
What is the website url again?.......
The proof of the puddings in the eating. If someone offers a service, especially a service where the aim is to help manipulate someones consciousness, or life script to change a particular way of thinking, its the results that matter nothing else.
I would hazard a guess that there are as many licensed charlatans in the mind market as there are unlicensed ones. Professionalisation is no respecter of complex mental difficulties in anyone least of all the tharapist. Even Freud, the father of all this therapies stuff would struggle to be licensed today because of the personal crap he brought into the psychoanalytical relationship.
Therapy, whether it comes from a scientific and academic source or the more modern New Age source being spoken about here should be judged only by its results and not necessarly by its professionalisation.
As for someone poaching your clients. Surely this is not the forum to bring up something of an ethical nature? I honestly cant believe that you guys, with all your qualifications, are getting involved in this in public.
Interesting post, and i think you are right, having a professional membership does not necessarily mean you are competent in the field, and that is why i think they will never legislate this field, and if they do they will grandfather organisations etc, so quality will never be measured, but i think that is a society driven thing, as you have all sorts of people in all sorts of areas with memberships that mean nothing. However i do challenge your New Age comment, as hypnosis is not a new age source, far from it, its something that has been with us since the beginning of time, it unfortunately was given that label, a label that is wrong and does not describe what actually takes place.
I also agree with you that i think this was the wrong place for this type of post.
Gleeber - I'm with you 100% - the proof of the pudding is always in the eating and the 'fanciest' qualfications in the world do not necessarily make a good therapist.
Cheers Donna. That'll be 30 quid please. :lol:
cheques in the post ;) :L
Alice in Blunderland
23-May-09, 10:36
cheques in the post ;) :L
mmm and we all know how good the postal service is at times............:lol:
However i do challenge your New Age comment, as hypnosis is not a new age source, far from it, its something that has been with us since the beginning of time, it unfortunately was given that label, a label that is wrong and does not describe what actually takes place.
Hi Andrew. I suppose, considering your qualifications, you would say that, wouldn't you?
Seriously though I have no knowledge of the research methods used to defend hypnotherapy. I agree, Hypnosis has been around since the beginning of time although it only became associated with therapy towards the end of the 19th century.
By calling it a new age therapy i am not being derogatory. My position towards therapy is centred purely on the relationship between the therapist and the client. Whether its an academic subject or a new age one, the proof of the puddings in the eating.
Hi Andrew. I suppose, considering your qualifications, you would say that, wouldn't you?
Seriously though I have no knowledge of the research methods used to defend hypnotherapy. I agree, Hypnosis has been around since the beginning of time although it only became associated with therapy towards the end of the 19th century.
By calling it a new age therapy i am not being derogatory. My position towards therapy is centred purely on the relationship between the therapist and the client. Whether its an academic subject or a new age one, the proof of the puddings in the eating.
No, the reason i say that is that i am tired of people claiming hypnosis is what it isnt, and i aim that at the professional field. I am very much a straight down the middle type of person, which is what gets me into trouble :)
People have the idea that hypnosis is something wonderful and mysterious, when it just isnt the case, and i hate all those websites with wonder cures and stuff, its just misleading marketing, and i hate websites with client testimonials, that drives me nuts.
That why at the free workshops i give, i give the good and the bad.
I tell all my patients that if you want to understand hypnosis look at places like Tesco and the other big supermarkets, they use the power of suggestion better than anyone, and that in a nutshell is about 60 percent of the way hypnosis is used, it merely utilises the power of suggestion, sure there are other ways of using the state, but that's how its mostly utilised.
Ive been in the 'alt health care' industry for many years, and its no different to conventional medicine in many ways, there is just as much BS in it as any other field, and i try not to adopt that approach, and i think we owe it to the people we see not to con them or rip them off. I think everyone should adopt an open policy, and ive ranted about that on this forum on and off for several years.
However, the thing that annoys me the most with most alt medicines is the lack of human anatomy and physiology people have in their training, but equally what i find interesting is that GP's tend to have little psychology training or nutrition training, so its across the board, but we should be honest about the skills we have and dont have...,.
Rant over......
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<P>People have the idea that hypnosis is something wonderful and mysterious, when it just isnt the case, and i hate all those websites with wonder cures and stuff, its just misleading marketing, and i hate websites with client testimonials, that drives me nuts.</P>
<P>That why at the free workshops i give, i give the good and the bad.</P>
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<P>I tell all my patients that if you want to understand hypnosis look at places like Tesco and the other big supermarkets, they use the power of suggestion better than anyone, and that in a nutshell is about 60 percent of the way hypnosis is used, it merely utilises the power of suggestion, sure there are other ways of using the state, but that's how its mostly utilised.</P>
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<P>Ive been in the 'alt health care' industry for many years, and its no different to conventional medicine in many ways, there is just as much BS in it as any other field, and i try not to adopt that approach, and i think we owe it to the people we see not to con them or rip them off. I think everyone should adopt an open policy, and ive ranted about that on this forum on and off for several years.</P>
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<P>However, the thing that annoys me the most with most alt medicines is the lack of human anatomy and physiology people have in their training, but equally what i find interesting is that GP's tend to have little psychology training or nutrition training, so its across the board, but we should be honest about the skills we have and dont have...,.</P>
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Hmmm. I never realised it was a rant until I read your last line. I know your not ranting at me but your frustration is transparent. Maybe you need therapy?
No, i save all my angst for my mixed martial arts class, lol, roll on tomorrow
Rant is a term, nothing more Gleeber, but i could type for days in regard to comp medicine and what goes on in the field, but i dont want to bore everyone :)
:D you must have been hypnotised by the H's ;)Yes, does that mean I owe you 30 quid too? :)
Welcomefamily
23-May-09, 12:49
Yes interesting stuff Andrew and lots of valid points about qualifications and clinical ability, I have come across someone else doing similar recently so I will send you a link if I can find it.
I am always interested when methods such as EEG MRIs and CT scans etc are used to show neurological activity
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/hypnotism-is-for-real-scientists-say-after-brainscan-study-of-volunteers-661134.html
David Spiegel has produce a few papers on it.
No, i save all my angst for my mixed martial arts class, lol, roll on tomorrow
Rant is a term, nothing more Gleeber, but i could type for days in regard to comp medicine and what goes on in the field, but i dont want to bore everyone :)
Rants actually a word and means something specific. You should know that in therapy whatever comes up is important. Someone who rants has a specific frustration. Frustration creates a barrier in a relationship. I figured if you are giving people therapeutic workshops, your own underlying frustrations would need to be addressed. Most proffessional therapists will themselves have a therapist as part of their ongoing process otherwise they could be a danger to their clients and themselves. They will also have a supervisor who they will talk to once a month. Does alternative therapy have a similar structure?
No doubt you could type for days in defence of alternative practices but alternatively there would be an awful lot more qualified people than yourself could come along and say you are talking nonsense and praying on the weaknesses of the vulnerable. I'm not saying your a quack because I made my position clear that I believe the relationship is the healer and perhaps you have the necessary abilities to create a healing relationship.
As for boring us i would be interested to know what structures your complimentary practices have in place, not only to protect the client, but also yourself?
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Rants actually a word and means something specific. You should know that in therapy whatever comes up is important. Someone who rants has a specific frustration. Frustration creates a barrier in a relationship. I figured if you are giving people therapeutic workshops, your own underlying frustrations would need to be addressed. Most proffessional therapists will themselves have a therapist as part of their ongoing process otherwise they could be a danger to their clients and themselves. They will also have a supervisor who they will talk to once a month. Does alternative therapy have a similar structure?
No doubt you could type for days in defence of alternative practices but alternatively there would be an awful lot more qualified people than yourself could come along and say you are talking nonsense and praying on the weaknesses of the vulnerable. I'm not saying your a quack because I made my position clear that I believe the relationship is the healer and perhaps you have the necessary abilities to create a healing relationship.
As for boring us i would be interested to know what structures your complimentary practices have in place, not only to protect the client, but also yourself?
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Gleeber, lets answer some of your points.
You are not in a position to determine if i have a frustration or not, based on merely a forum post. Language is a complex area of study, and the written word often does not highlight tonality, pace, substructure and more. So I would advise you to leave the pop psychology alone, especially given your post on the issue of a health forum places you against such things :)
As for therapy, then yes some professional bodies and organisations expect you to undergo therapy as part of your training, more so to combat the issue of transference and counter transference. The body i belong to expects this, and therefore that is part of my structure. Regarding your comment about what ever comes up in therapy important, then this is not always the case, as this would only be important dependent on method, free association utilises this approach, other areas require you to be focused, such as neurofeedback.
There are no doubt more qualified people than myself, but i am in a fortunate position, as firstly all our therapy work and alternative health are facilitated at our medical practice, all medical issues are overseen by a GP, my wife. Nutrition advice is consulted via a nutritionist, who is a nutritionist for several Premier FA football teams, and a well known lecturer, and we use other specialists around the UK. I am also well placed in complimentary medicine as i am also the Dean for one of the largest International teaching schools, with several international offices. I am also working in education, presently working at creating several degree based integrated medical courses, with two large Universities, and a whole heap of other things that would bore you to sleep :). Thats a brief snapshot of some of things i am involved in, so probably unlike yourself and your pop psychology, i am in a place to determine what is and what is not a legitimate form of alternative health care, thats part of my job for the school i oversea.
Also, if you had understood my *rant* you would have realised i am not always in defence of *alternative* medicine, far from it, in fact i am probably one of its most harshest critics, and a strong believer in evidential medicine, clinical trials and structured analysis of the methodology and integration.
So, Gleeber, whats your background and expertise in the field to allow you to make your assumptions :) ?
Edit. So, Gleeber, whats your background and expertise in the field to allow you to make your assumptions :) ?
Perhaps he read a book once?? :Razz
Alice in Blunderland
24-May-09, 08:57
Gleeber, lets answer some of your points.
You are not in a position to determine if i have a frustration or not, based on merely a forum post. Language is a complex area of study, and the written word often does not highlight tonality, pace, substructure and more. So I would advise you to leave the pop psychology alone, especially given your post on the issue of a health forum places you against such things
As for therapy, then yes some professional bodies and organisations expect you to undergo therapy as part of your training, more so to combat the issue of transference and counter transference. The body i belong to expects this, and therefore that is part of my structure. Regarding your comment about what ever comes up in therapy important, then this is not always the case, as this would only be important dependent on method, free association utilises this approach, other areas require you to be focused, such as neurofeedback.
There are no doubt more qualified people than myself, but i am in a fortunate position, as firstly all our therapy work and alternative health are facilitated at our medical practice, all medical issues are overseen by a GP, my wife, a nutritionist, who is a nutritionist for several Premier FA football teams, and a well known lecturer, and other specialists around the UK. I am also well placed in complimentary medicine as i am also the Dean for one of the largest International teaching schools, with several international offices. I am also working in education, presently working at creating several degree based integrated medical courses, with two large Universities, and a whole heap of other things that would bore you to sleep. Thats a brief snapshot of some of things i am involved in, so probably unlike yourself and your pop psychology, i am in a place to determine what is and what is not a legitimate form of alternative health care, thats part of my job for the school i oversea.
Also, if you had understood my *rant* you would have realised i am not always in defence of *alternative* medicine, far from it, in fact i am probably one of its most harshest critics, and a strong believer in evidential medicine, clinical trials and structured analysis of the methodology and integration.
So, Gleeber, whats your background and expertise in the field to allow you to make your assumptions :) ?
Andrew in this one post you have not only managed to big yourself up but in a way belittle somone elses intelligence. :)
In life its not just the qualifications and position you hold, its also the art of communicating with people at their level. :)
Alice in Blunderland
24-May-09, 08:58
He read a book once maybe? :Razz
Hey ho and thus an expert is born. We all have to start somewhere.:lol:
Andrew in this one post you have not only managed to big yourself up but in a way belittle somone elses intelligence. :)
In life its not just the qualifications and position you hold, its also the art of communicating with people at their level. :)
Well said i think andrew has a lot to learn when it comes to communicating with other people maybey he needs therapy to get rid of all his frustration.
Ive seen people in different proffesion and trades that have all the correct qualifications but there useless in the field in the practical side of things and then u might people that dont have any qualifications and worked there way up from the bottom and brilliant in the field and All the certificates means is your at a required standard doesnt mean your good at the practical side of things
Well, as Gleeber wrote, the proof is in the pudding, and thats something that i agree with him on.
Right, time to go teach some mixed martial arts :)
Copied from http://www.alternativevitality.co.uk:
"What is Reiki Distance Healing?
Distance healing is the process of sending Reiki to a person in the next room or to the other side of the planet, to help heal in the same way that Reiki helps when it's performed in person.
How is Distance Healing Possible?
The process is very simple!
You can receive distance healing no matter where in the world you are in relation to your Reiki Practitioner. It's only in our physical world that there are such things as time and distance. With regards to energy, we simply intend to connect with each other and we are in the same 'space'. When I send Reiki to a person online, they often ask in amazement, "How did you do that over the internet?!" I explain that Reiki isn't done over the internet. The internet makes us aware of each other as individuals, which in effect creates a conscious circuit of energy between us, and the Reiki is sent over that connection.
What will we do?
Once you have purchased your distance healing session, we will contact you to arrange a date and time. At the arranged time, we will call you to ensure you are relaxed and ready for your session. We will then hang up and perform distance healing. At the end of the session, we will call again to discuss the outcome of the treatment."
Could someone with suitable qualifications please explain how this works?
Gosh, quite a blast. Lots of qualifications there too Andrew you clever boy. :roll:
My background is years and years of building and experiencing life and it's difficulties. Does that qualify me to question the safety of your alternative therapies?
I'm struggling to be discreet in this matter because of your reaction to my post, however I will try. I don't think I could add anything in my defence that would make you look any worse than you have managed to do to yourself.
As for me determining whether you have a frustration or not. I think it's rather obvious lol.
Now, this is the tricky bit. How do I communicate that I have more than a passing aquaintance with depth psycholgy without sounding like you? I just can't do it so I won't even try, suffice to say that I am strong enough and mature enough to take your belittling and shaming attack on the chin without believing one little word of it.
A man in your position should really be more careful about how he reacts to other people on a community website. If you are prepared to let fly in the manner you did towards me I would be very concerned for anyone who may come to you for therapy.
As for your transferances. Who am I in your history?
Gleeber, in my history you are merely someone who made a post to which i replied, a post quantifying my experience in the field in regard to your experience, or rather lack of it, if you feel that belittles you then so be it.
As i mentioned in a previous post, forum posts are devoid of many of the complexities of the spoken language, and therefore all posts that i read on a forum are taken just as that, the written word of an individual. How an individual will experience that post will be predetermined on their individual experiences and belief systems. I cant say that i am bothered particularly by how you or some others have taken my post, and i stand by my post and my belief that i don't think you are in a position to question what i do, or how my psyche works.
However, ill try to respect your opinion, your entitled to that much :), but it doesnt mean that i have to agree with it, and ill express that view as and how i intend to do so.
Regarding your comment of concern for my patients, if you are making an allegation regarding my ability and treatment of care towards clients, then put that in writing to me and we will deal with that off list where it should be, in an apprpriate and formal manner.
My concern for anyone being stupid enough to see you for therapy is based on your indiscreet response to my earlier post. Perhaps prospective clients of yours will be reading this and with a bit of luck give you a wide berth.
If this post defames you in any way then sue me laddie.
Gleeber,
Perhaps they will be intelligent enough to read the thread from top to bottom, understanding the content and structure for the argument made on both sides. As i have mentioned a post on a forum is a post on a forum, does that bias myself personally to and away from a person, no, why, well i think i am intelligent enough to understand the contexts of posts etc.
My concern for anyone being stupid enough to see you for therapy is based on your indiscreet response to my earlier post.
I dont think any of my patients and clients are stupid, unlike your unfounded interpretation of them, is that perhaps a touch of frustration you have there? :)
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I dont think any of my patients and clients are stupid, unlike your unfounded interpretation of them, is that perhaps a touch of frustration you have there? :)
NO, It's me being arrogant and indiscreet. It must be infectious.
lol,
Gleeber,
I dont have time for Keyboard Warrioritis, ill leave it to you Gleeber, whilst i go out for a 2k run, :)
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Copied from http://www.alternativevitality.co.uk:
"What is Reiki Distance Healing?
Distance healing is the process of sending Reiki to a person in the next room or to the other side of the planet, to help heal in the same way that Reiki helps when it's performed in person.
How is Distance Healing Possible?
The process is very simple!
You can receive distance healing no matter where in the world you are in relation to your Reiki Practitioner. It's only in our physical world that there are such things as time and distance. With regards to energy, we simply intend to connect with each other and we are in the same 'space'. When I send Reiki to a person online, they often ask in amazement, "How did you do that over the internet?!" I explain that Reiki isn't done over the internet. The internet makes us aware of each other as individuals, which in effect creates a conscious circuit of energy between us, and the Reiki is sent over that connection.
What will we do?
Once you have purchased your distance healing session, we will contact you to arrange a date and time. At the arranged time, we will call you to ensure you are relaxed and ready for your session. We will then hang up and perform distance healing. At the end of the session, we will call again to discuss the outcome of the treatment."
Could someone with suitable qualifications please explain how this works?
It works exactly like Paypal. One minute you have 30 quid in YOUR account, the next minute it is in the account of a stranger, many miles away, having slipped through the ether via the miracle of the internet.
I would rather spend 30 quid on Reiki Hoose Juice ;)
Copied from http://www.alternativevitality.co.uk:
"What is Reiki Distance Healing?
Distance healing is the process of sending Reiki to a person in the next room or to the other side of the planet, to help heal in the same way that Reiki helps when it's performed in person.
How is Distance Healing Possible?
The process is very simple!
You can receive distance healing no matter where in the world you are in relation to your Reiki Practitioner. It's only in our physical world that there are such things as time and distance. With regards to energy, we simply intend to connect with each other and we are in the same 'space'. When I send Reiki to a person online, they often ask in amazement, "How did you do that over the internet?!" I explain that Reiki isn't done over the internet. The internet makes us aware of each other as individuals, which in effect creates a conscious circuit of energy between us, and the Reiki is sent over that connection.
What will we do?
Once you have purchased your distance healing session, we will contact you to arrange a date and time. At the arranged time, we will call you to ensure you are relaxed and ready for your session. We will then hang up and perform distance healing. At the end of the session, we will call again to discuss the outcome of the treatment."
Could someone with suitable qualifications please explain how this works?
Good grief, can you really do this and will people pay for it? Half the Org thought I was insane when I polled them about communicating with the dead over the internet (http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?t=22287). It didn't cross my mind to ask about something less outrageous like Reiki at a distance.
To be 100% honest with you Crayola - it's something that forms a good part of the second degree Reiki training and something that I have seen work on a good few occassions but it's not something I do a lot of purely because I find it difficult to explain, justify or even really understand exactly how it works. This is by no means a reflection on the efficacy of Reiki - more a reflection on my own self doubt. I am personally more comfortable with hands on reiki and face to face interaction but will perform distance Reiki if someone requests it.
Interesting study about Reiki. Might be more in it than the sceptics suggest.
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119418316/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
I saw the magic word a few posts back :HYPNOREGRESSION.
At least I think that's what it is.
At any rate it's a hypnotic state in which the subject regresses to past lives.
So now is the time to tell you that I used to be Rasputin.
It was OK, lots of caviar and plenty of young women.
Most gratifying of all was the captive audience for my sermons.
But human nature is unchanging and unyielding and so plots were hatched.
I got poisoned, stabbed, smothered and drowned in a St. Petersbugh canal.
I am not complaining because I then regressed to being Atilla the Hun, lots of looting and other stuff I cant mention on the Org.
But one message I would like to pass on to the Org - I have also been Juiius Caesar, Shakespeare and Jane Austen. So hands off!!!! If it is any consolation I have never been Blackbeard the Pirate, General Custer or Lassie.
So you might like to regress there.
Thank you, hypnotists of Caithness!
unfortunately I didn't get to be anyone remotely famous and I confess I was hoping for at least Cleopatra ;)
Lelebo, I thought you'ld never asp! (Sorry)
To be 100% honest with you Crayola - it's something that forms a good part of the second degree Reiki training and something that I have seen work on a good few occassions but it's not something I do a lot of purely because I find it difficult to explain, justify or even really understand exactly how it works. This is by no means a reflection on the efficacy of Reiki - more a reflection on my own self doubt. I am personally more comfortable with hands on reiki and face to face interaction but will perform distance Reiki if someone requests it.
I can't see me paying for distance or hands off Reiki but I might give the hands on version a try one day. I think I'd prefer a good old fashioned massage mind.
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