vaccination for puppies and dogs

[the poacher]

iv just got a new puppy last week

he is due his vaccination in 2 weeks but iv heard that many stories about getting dogs and puppies vaccinated i dont know what to do for the best

should i get his injections or not.



please could help me with this?

thanks.

[starry]

Personnally I would vacinate but if you have worries I am sure the vet would be happy to talk them over with you.

What kind of puppy did you get ?:)

[butterfly]

You should get them vacinated,talk to your vet.

[the poacher]

Personnally I would vacinate but if you have worries I am sure the vet would be happy to talk them over with you.

What kind of puppy did you get ?:)


its a staffy x collie lovely wee thing he is his name is razor

http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/13/75/95/82/th/05-04-10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1&u=13759582)

[annemarie482]

yes, for your pups health.
you would regret it if he caught something that could've been prevented.
my lab got his booster every year. if nothing else he got a full body check up everytime he was in!:)

[justine]

I would say yes aswell but after having tank vccinated with his yealy booster and took a reaction i am not sure if i would do it again. The vet has mentioned about doing it in 2 doses but i will be very wary indeed. Vaccinations are not always the answer so peak to your vet about it.

Oh and by the way welcome to the Staffie x Collie club. there alot of them up here. maybe a pic in the pet section would be good.:lol:

[Margaret M.]

he is due his vaccination in 2 weeks but iv heard that many stories about getting dogs and puppies vaccinated i dont know what to do for the best


You should get all his shots that are recommended for a puppy. Once he has received all those it is the subsequent vaccinations that may be harmful and unnecessary since the majority of dogs usually retain immunity for much longer than one year. To prevent over vaccinating, I have titer tests done on my dogs each year. Blood is drawn and tested to determine if they need booster vaccinations. Since I started having the titer tests done over three years ago, it has shown each year that the annual vaccination was not needed.

You can find a lot of info about vaccinations and titer tests but this website explains it nicely.

http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/titer_test.htm

Here is some info from this wbsite:

Why more is not better
Jean Dodds, DVM, a highly respected veterinary hematologist, and founder and president of the nonprofit Hemopet, a California-based animal blood bank, pioneered the vaccine debate decades ago and is now considered one of the leading authorities on canine vaccine protocols. According to Dr. Dodds, many recent studies confirm that the vast majority of dogs, in most cases at least 95 percent of the subjects, retain immunity after vaccination for many years after the administration of a vaccine. She states that the “evidence implicating vaccines in triggering immune-mediated and other chronic disorders (vaccinosis) is compelling.” Adverse reactions to conventional vaccines can be the same as reactions to any chemicals, drugs, or infectious agents. Immediate (or anaphylactic) reactions can occur in the 24-48 hours following exposure to the vaccine. Delayed reactions can occur 10-45 days after receiving vaccines. Symptoms include fever, stiffness, sore joints, abdominal tenderness, nervous system disorders, susceptibility to infections, and hemorrhages or bruising. Transient seizures can appear in puppies and adults. More long-term harmful effects can result in permanent damage to the dog’s immune system, which increases the dog’s susceptibility to chronic, debilitating diseases affecting the blood, endocrine organs, joints, skin, central nervous system, liver, kidneys, and bowel. In addition, vaccines can overwhelm a chronically ill dog, or a dog that has a genetic predisposition to react adversely to viral exposure, even from the modified live viral agents or killed virus in vaccines. So, given the possible health risks of administering too many vaccines, especially when a dog likely retains the immunologic protection supplied by previous vaccinations, how can a responsible dog owner decide on a safe and effective vaccine schedule for the life of their dog? As we suggested earlier, the answer is titer tests.

[neepnipper]

All nine of my dogs are vaccinated and have their boosters every year, none of them have ever had any problems, prevention is better than cure.

I think the vet gives a smaller dose for the boosters on alternate years, best to speak to them for exact details.

[binbob]

You should get all his shots that are recommended for a puppy. Once he has received all those it is the subsequent vaccinations that may be harmful and unnecessary since the majority of dogs usually retain immunity for much longer than one year. To prevent over vaccinating, I have titer tests done on my dogs each year. Blood is drawn and tested to determine if they need booster vaccinations. Since I started having the titer tests done over three years ago, it has shown each year that the annual vaccination was not needed.

You can find a lot of info about vaccinations and titer tests but this website explains it nicely.

http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/titer_test.htm

Here is some info from this wbsite:

Why more is not better
Jean Dodds, DVM, a highly respected veterinary hematologist, and founder and president of the nonprofit Hemopet, a California-based animal blood bank, pioneered the vaccine debate decades ago and is now considered one of the leading authorities on canine vaccine protocols. According to Dr. Dodds, many recent studies confirm that the vast majority of dogs, in most cases at least 95 percent of the subjects, retain immunity after vaccination for many years after the administration of a vaccine. She states that the “evidence implicating vaccines in triggering immune-mediated and other chronic disorders (vaccinosis) is compelling.” Adverse reactions to conventional vaccines can be the same as reactions to any chemicals, drugs, or infectious agents. Immediate (or anaphylactic) reactions can occur in the 24-48 hours following exposure to the vaccine. Delayed reactions can occur 10-45 days after receiving vaccines. Symptoms include fever, stiffness, sore joints, abdominal tenderness, nervous system disorders, susceptibility to infections, and hemorrhages or bruising. Transient seizures can appear in puppies and adults. More long-term harmful effects can result in permanent damage to the dog’s immune system, which increases the dog’s susceptibility to chronic, debilitating diseases affecting the blood, endocrine organs, joints, skin, central nervous system, liver, kidneys, and bowel. In addition, vaccines can overwhelm a chronically ill dog, or a dog that has a genetic predisposition to react adversely to viral exposure, even from the modified live viral agents or killed virus in vaccines. So, given the possible health risks of administering too many vaccines, especially when a dog likely retains the immunologic protection supplied by previous vaccinations, how can a responsible dog owner decide on a safe and effective vaccine schedule for the life of their dog? As we suggested earlier, the answer is titer tests.


i am with you on this one ,margaret.

[porshiepoo]

Talk to your vet and you will undoubtedly get a biased opinion on the matter.

I would suggest that you take your pup for its initial vaccination course but for subsequent years perhaps you should do some research further afield that your local vet.

There are many conflicting reports and advice on the subjects of vaccinations but it is becoming more and more accepted that there are other methods than yearly boosters which are often not needed and are a waste of money.
Remember though that there are always people who defiantly defend the role of yearly boosters, as is their right to do so, and feel that anything less is detrtimental to the dogs health.

Me, I believe that you should do what is right for you and what you are happy and comfortable with.

Hmmmm, not really constructive advice there, sorry.

[Dadie]

hmmm
Get the initial jabs then the rest is up to you!
But if you need him to go into kennels for any reason his jabs will have to be up to date!

xxx

[crustyroll]

Why more is not better
Jean Dodds, DVM, a highly respected veterinary hematologist, and founder and president of the nonprofit Hemopet, a California-based animal blood bank, pioneered the vaccine debate decades ago and is now considered one of the leading authorities on canine vaccine protocols. According to Dr. Dodds, many recent studies confirm that the vast majority of dogs, in most cases at least 95 percent of the subjects, retain immunity after vaccination for many years after the administration of a vaccine. She states that the “evidence implicating vaccines in triggering immune-mediated and other chronic disorders (vaccinosis) is compelling.” Adverse reactions to conventional vaccines can be the same as reactions to any chemicals, drugs, or infectious agents. Immediate (or anaphylactic) reactions can occur in the 24-48 hours following exposure to the vaccine. Delayed reactions can occur 10-45 days after receiving vaccines. Symptoms include fever, stiffness, sore joints, abdominal tenderness, nervous system disorders, susceptibility to infections, and hemorrhages or bruising. Transient seizures can appear in puppies and adults. More long-term harmful effects can result in permanent damage to the dog’s immune system, which increases the dog’s susceptibility to chronic, debilitating diseases affecting the blood, endocrine organs, joints, skin, central nervous system, liver, kidneys, and bowel. In addition, vaccines can overwhelm a chronically ill dog, or a dog that has a genetic predisposition to react adversely to viral exposure, even from the modified live viral agents or killed virus in vaccines. So, given the possible health risks of administering too many vaccines, especially when a dog likely retains the immunologic protection supplied by previous vaccinations, how can a responsible dog owner decide on a safe and effective vaccine schedule for the life of their dog? As we suggested earlier, the answer is titer tests.

I have 5 dogs and only two of them have had vaccinations, all the rest have been treated with homeopathic nosodes to cover all the major diseases. I will not vaccinate any of my dogs again and I know I am doing the right thing for them and not for everybody else. They attend the vet when they need to and the vets respect my decision to treat them in an 'unconventional' way.

How old is your puppy? If you can hold off giving any vaccinations until the pup is about 12 weeks old you will be allowing the puppy a better chance of no reactions occuring. The puppy, before this age will still have immunity from it's mother and the added stress of going to a new home and new owners is too much for their systems to cope with vaccinations on top. Even if you decide not to wait until the pup is 12 weeks old leave it to at least 10 weeks and the pup will be less stressed and settled in with you and cope with the jags better.

Dr Jean Dodds is the specialist who diagnosed my dog as having a thyroid problem, I can't recommend her highly enough and urge all owners to take heed of what she says.

Porshiepoo, I'm on the same track as you and totally agree. I do not have a closed mind to vaccinations only an open mind to all ways of treating and helping our animals.

[Margaret M.]

My vet just called with the titer testing results and they show that neither dog needs a booster vaccination. I got both dogs, now 10 and 6, from a rescue place so I do not have their vet records prior to my getting them to see when they were last vaccinated. However, I've had them for four years and were it not for the titer tests, they would have been given annual vaccinations that they did not need. If any of you are concerned about over vaccinating your pet, I strongly recommend the titer test.
It is available for both cats and dogs.
Vaccines are a suspected cause of lots of serious diseases, including thyroid disease, autoimmune disease, and cancers in pets. The less we immunize our pets the better it is for their health but we also need to ensure they have the protection they need!

Crustyroll, I have heard about nosodes being a good alternative. One of my dogs gets acupuncture treatments from a holistic vet so I must ask her about those for when the titer tests indicate that their levels are low. I firmly believe that the combination of conventional and alternative health care is the best route for both humans and animals.

Dadie, if a titer test shows that your pet is fully protected, just ask the vet to give you a letter when you get the results so you have it on hand to take to kennels, etc.

Understanding titer tests
The term “titer” refers to the strength or concentration of a substance in a solution. When testing vaccine titers in dogs, a veterinarian takes a blood sample from a dog and has the blood tested for the presence and strength of the dog’s immunological response to a viral disease. If the dog demonstrates satisfactory levels of vaccine titers, the dog is considered sufficiently immune to the disease, or possessing good “immunologic memory,” and not in need of further vaccination against the disease at that time.

Using the new TiterCHEKTM test kit, your veterinarian can now draw blood from your dog when you first arrive for his annual health exam, and within 15 minutes, be able to tell you whether or not he needs any vaccines.

[binbob]

that is good news and very informative,too.having had cocker spaniels with auto immune disease[one died 17 days after his booster..aged just 7].i am very wary.i did vacc. my 4 last year as i thought they may have to be in kennels when i ended up in hospital.

however,having found HIGHLAND PET CARE...i will not vacc. again.none of my dogs have ever developed[thanks god] any of the diseases we can vacc. against,so i will take mine and their chances.

everyone has to make up their own minds...but having watched my lovely JACK bleed to death after his booster....i have made up my mind.;)