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Iffy
07-Apr-09, 15:29
I've been watching this series and I really enjoy it........

BUT I know for a fact that there are some of us out there who have convulted ideas about it. I WOULD say exactly what I thought about this programme but I'll probably be shot down in flames !!!!!!

What is everyones thoughts about it then ...? :roll:

binbob
07-Apr-09, 15:37
well.i personally think that as MILLIONAIRES...they do not give much away.the last person only gave away£ 70000..........not much in the big scheme of things.

some are a bit more generous,the most i have seen being given was £ 250000...............
just my thoughts on it.

starry
07-Apr-09, 15:46
I like the programme, but I think they are tight with their money.

Plus I am sure a lot of the people suspect they are part of the programme but don't let on incase they don't get anything or are talking into playing along by production teams.

I am darn sure if a tv camera and a volunteer turned up at my workplace my first thought would be Secret Millionaire.

First series was good, the rest have been just ok.

joxville
07-Apr-09, 15:55
I enjoy the programma for what it is-someone putting something back into the community, and whether it's £7000 or £250,000 it makes no difference to me. Maybe some viewers will see the cynical side and suggest it's free advertising for those concerned, if it is then all the better because most carry on the good work after filming is over and can bring much needed cash to lesser known charities.

Iffy
07-Apr-09, 16:00
Thanks Binbob and Starry...

I totally agree with your opinions on "Secret Millionaire".

I think the ONLY way it MUST work is if they film the whole series at once and then broadcast it in sections: whilst giving them an AGREED limit as to what to donate ??? ( I hope !!)

Otherwise, I agree, they shoud be DONATING more money.

Thoughts ???:confused

Iffy
07-Apr-09, 16:17
So, I take it that no many o' us watch this programme ??? :roll:

Alice in Blunderland
07-Apr-09, 16:31
Good grief ......................anyone on the recieving end of these gifts of cash Im sure would not be saying they are tight. :eek:

In these days for anyone to be giving away any of their own personal hard earned cash its good for the reciever.

Its there money for them to do as they please. Keep it or give it, its their own personal choice. IMHO

starry
07-Apr-09, 17:04
I love it when they donate real life changing amounts compared to £10,000.
I also preferred the first series when they gave to people who rather than charities.

I am talking about this from a viewers point of view not from a moral point.

My moral point would be it is disgusting that half these charities exist to provide services that should be provided by the government.

IMHO

Penelope Pitstop
07-Apr-09, 17:06
Good grief ......................anyone on the recieving end of these gifts of cash Im sure would not be saying they are tight. :eek:

In these days for anyone to be giving away any of their own personal hard earned cash its good for the reciever.

Its there money for them to do as they please. Keep it or give it, its their own personal choice. IMHO

Yeah, I'd agree aything is better than nothing.

I suspect just because they are called millionaires that that doesn't necessarily mean that they have millions of "ready" cash at their disposal - it will most likely be tied up in their business (i.e. it may be in their company "books" but it doesn't mean then can get their hands on it !!!). Just my thoughts. :Razz

binbob
07-Apr-09, 17:06
Thanks Binbob and Starry...

I totally agree with your opinions on "Secret Millionaire".

I think the ONLY way it MUST work is if they film the whole series at once and then broadcast it in sections: whilst giving them an AGREED limit as to what to donate ??? ( I hope !!)

Otherwise, I agree, they shoud be DONATING more money.

Thoughts ???:confused

DEFINITELY....and i agree with ur idea of the filming.;)

starry
07-Apr-09, 17:08
Honestly you would be gutted if your millionaire gave you £10,000 and the week after the millionaire gave 10 times that :confused

I should be in charge of so many tv programmes I could make them much better ;)

Gene Hunt
07-Apr-09, 17:22
I cant believe people are complaining about the amount that these people are donating, having watched some of the programmes the people on the receiving end seem more than grateful. The Millionaires don't have to do it remember.

The people handing over their money did not win it in a lucky dip, the only people who become millionaires by accident are those who win the lottery. Seeing as they chose to part with their own hard earned cash I think they should be commended for doing that rather than criticised for not giving enough.

I do find it amusing when people who haven't given a penny to these charities criticise those who have. Maybe they should practice what they preach and stump up themselves.

starry
07-Apr-09, 17:28
I do find it amusing when people who haven't given a penny to these charities criticise those who have. Maybe they should practice what they preach and stump up themselves.


Maybe they do ;)

Bad Manners
07-Apr-09, 17:39
I think that whatever help be it money time or just publicity for these lesser known charities is good. the cinics want more but like all charities they are very greatful for what they can get.

starry
07-Apr-09, 17:51
Yes I would be delighted with anything I got as a charity, but I would also be a bit gutted if the person the week after got 10 times more.

I think most folk would feel this if they were honest yes ?

It is possible to be grateful for what you got but also wish that you got the more generous millionaire who was on the week before ?



From an entertainment point of view, I think the programme works better when there are larger sums of money given away.

Ash
07-Apr-09, 18:13
god! its their money they dont have to give anything!
talk about ungrateful!

starry
07-Apr-09, 18:18
If that was directed at me Ash I have said I would be grateful.

It is possible to be grateful and still wish you were luckier yes ?

If you got 10,ooo and the week after the person got 250,ooo are you saying that not one part of you would wish that you had got the second millionaire and your charity was sorted for life and not just a year ?

I think it is great that they give anything but I think the programme is better when they give larger sums of money.

How come this makes me ungrateful ?

Ash
07-Apr-09, 18:21
it wasnt directed at anyone in particular but its their money, its not C4's money, these people dont have to donate anything so the fact that they are is amazing, i would be happy with £5000 if it was going to make a difference never mind 10!

ShelleyCowie
07-Apr-09, 18:50
I like this program. The millionaires really make a difference.

To be honest i would be extremelly happy if someone turned up at my door with £100, they are getting alot more than that so i am sure it makes a huge difference to them.

binbob
07-Apr-09, 19:00
I like this program. The millionaires really make a difference.

To be honest i would be extremelly happy if someone turned up at my door with £100, they are getting alot more than that so i am sure it makes a huge difference to them.

when /if i ever win the lottery,i will be round with more than that,shelley.;)

Alice in Blunderland
07-Apr-09, 19:03
when /if i ever win the lottery,i will be round with more than that,shelley.;)

Well its more likely your going to be struck by lightening as statistics show....................... :lol:

butterfly
07-Apr-09, 20:03
I enjoy the programma for what it is-someone putting something back into the community, and whether it's £7000 or £250,000 it makes no difference to me. Maybe some viewers will see the cynical side and suggest it's free advertising for those concerned, if it is then all the better because most carry on the good work after filming is over and can bring much needed cash to lesser known charities.

I agree with that,good programme.

binbob
07-Apr-09, 20:10
Well its more likely your going to be struck by lightening as statistics show....................... :lol:


YOU WISH...[lol][lol]

ShelleyCowie
07-Apr-09, 20:12
when /if i ever win the lottery,i will be round with more than that,shelley.;)

Aw Binbob! Aint u just so nice! But £100 would do me fine! Would pay for somethin Athrun needs just now and some food! Would just do grand! Lol.

Now where is that scratch card i had....[lol]

pat
07-Apr-09, 20:24
They can give what they want to whoever they want - it is their money.

Whilst visiting in a poor country do you give to every person who asks or wants more (you are a millionaire to the poor in that country) - more than likely you say you cannot afford to hand out to them all, you have to watch your money.
This applies to the millionaires too - they do not have bottomless pits of money to donate to everything and everyone.
What is the point of getting rid of their money if they believe there may be a more deserving cause around the corner.
This person/charity believes should get £xxxx - if they dont like what they are given, quite happily take it back and give it to someone who is appreciative of donation.

KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN
07-Apr-09, 20:35
to add to the pot...

we don't know how much money these millionaires may give to charity off screen...

maybe they make regular donations or support to good causes all the time...

It's not for us to judge....who knows how selfish we MAY be despite our best intentions with that kind of money!!

katarina
07-Apr-09, 21:40
I love to watch it and think it brilliant that these people help others in this way I do sometimes think they could give a bit more - but as others have said - they don't have to give anything - and there are many who don't I'm sure. I like it best when they set up a business plan for the charities concerned and continue to come back to see it through.

Blondie
07-Apr-09, 21:44
I thought Sundays programme was really good. I was so pleased that she gave a donation to the single dad whose daughter had cancer. I cry every week watching this programme. Love it.

Gene Hunt
07-Apr-09, 21:44
I reckon a lot of the wealthy and or famous do a lot of good that no one knows about outside the local area. Its easy to be critical when all you see is them swanning around in Ferrari's or on a beach in Barbados.

One of our local celebs are the Stereophonics, they have put their hands in their pockets on many an occasion to help the area and their local town of Cwmaman. They do it all without fanfare and have avoided the publicity for it. They are all good lads and Kelly the lead singer used to work in our local market in the record shop, very pleasant guy.

He penned a song about the town called "More Life in a Tramps Vest" which is pretty spot on .. ;)

TBH
07-Apr-09, 21:50
It's their money, if they want to give generously they can, if not then that's their choice. If they donate nothing to charity then that also their perogative and nobodies business but their own.

starry
07-Apr-09, 21:58
Yes I agree, what they do with their money is 100% up to them but the ones we are talking about have gone on tv to donate money, which to me says they are quiet happy with the publicity.

TBH
07-Apr-09, 22:05
Yes I agree, what they do with their money is 100% up to them but the ones we are talking about have gone on tv to donate money, which to me says they are quiet happy with the publicity.Yes they have gone on tv to donate money but who should dictate how much they donate and why?

starry
07-Apr-09, 22:15
Obviously it is up to them how much and who they donate to.

But nothing on this earth would make me believe the majority of people wouldn't
rather have the millionaire who was going to give their charity the most.

I am not making this personnal against the guys who give less I am just saying if one was visiting the charity I work for I would prefer it to be one of the ones who gave more.

wifie
07-Apr-09, 22:18
Gosh I am seein on this thread what is prevalent in a lot of society today - GREED! [disgust]

starry
07-Apr-09, 23:44
I honestly can't believe that none of you are willing to admit that if given the choice you would prefer the more generous millionaire visited.



Wee bit of head wall bang going on here but ........... I am not saying I would not be grateful for whatever they donated, of course I would and I have said this several times in this thread, but given the choice of funding the charity for 5 years or 5 months I know which I would prefer.

How does that makes me greedy wifie ?

wifie
08-Apr-09, 00:10
The whole point of the programme is that the millionaire lives in the community, meets the people, understands their needs. The receivers are not all charities. The millionaires, who are shrewd business people (why they are millionaires!), also find a way to look at their books and decide what amount would be beneficial. It would be very condescending of these people to give some obscene amount and also very stupid of them. As jox said, too, often they carry on their relationship with the groups or individuals they give to. It is fantastic if a charity or individual receives a huge windfall but most of the people we see on this programme are hard working and are grateful for the chance to carry on their hard work doing what they think is right in their community. They are not looking for handouts!

starry
08-Apr-09, 00:17
Fair enough, that is a more valid point that just hinting that I am greedy.

And I am not saying that they should give massive amounts to everyone, or lower amounts to everyone.
The huge differences between what some give makes those who give less look bad, or those who give more look good, either or.

All I am saying is wouldn't it be great if they all gave huge amounts.
I don't see why that makes me a bad person :confused

wifie
08-Apr-09, 00:22
Starry I have never said you were greedy or that you were a bad person. I said I was seeing greed on this thread and stand by that. I think both my posts are valid.
Oh I have just realised that my first post followed one of your's - that does not necessarily mean it was aimed at you. If I was doin that I would have used the "quote" option.

oldmarine
08-Apr-09, 00:41
Starry I have never said you were greedy or that you were a bad person. I said I was seeing greed on this thread and stand by that. I think both my posts are valid.
Oh I have just realised that my first post followed one of your's - that does not necessarily mean it was aimed at you. If I was doin that I would have used the "quote" option.

Isn't it possible that many viewers watch the programme for its entertainment value?

wifie
08-Apr-09, 00:43
Isn't it possible that many viewers watch the programme for its entertainment value?

Yes, cos that is why it will have been made in all honesty! Doesn't make it right.

TBH
08-Apr-09, 01:11
Isn't it possible that many viewers watch the programme for its entertainment value?No, they watch it based on their belief that if they were fortunate enough to be a millionaire/ss then they would give the majority of their wealth away to chariddeee.........Aye right.:lol:

pierre
08-Apr-09, 10:58
I honestly can't believe that none of you are willing to admit that if given the choice you would prefer the more generous millionaire visited.



Wee bit of head wall bang going on here but ........... I am not saying I would not be grateful for whatever they donated, of course I would and I have said this several times in this thread, but given the choice of funding the charity for 5 years or 5 months I know which I would prefer.

How does that makes me greedy wifie ?


Starry I have just read this thread and I get the point you are trying to make.

I think it is fantastic these people take time out of their schedules to take part in this and donate their hard earned cash, whether it be £100 or £100,000. They also provide support afterward which is great for everyone inolved.

As people are saying it is their money, they don't have to donate it and if they decide to do so the amount is up to them and they should not be judged on this, but considering it is a television programme the higher the amount of cash donated the more of a wow factor is produced, that is what television is about, wouldn't be much of a show if I went to visit them and seen what they did and the problems they face etc and gave them all £5 each if that was all I could afford, its just not as interesting to watch as I am not going to create an impact, all it would do is highlight the problems these people/charities face which secret millionaire does but also provides the entertainment aspect with the money involved.

I don't think Starry is trying to say anyone is ungrateful just that it is bound to cross their mind that had they got someone donating greater amounts they would have got more, that doesn't make anyone ungrateful it just tends to be human nature sometimes.

pat
08-Apr-09, 11:25
often the input from the 'millionaire' is more beneficial than the actual monetary input - they can often advise how to manage what the charity/person has in a more productive way through better advertising, better packaging etc, thus bringing in more income permanently.
It is more of business advice from someone who has done it and knows what they are talking/dealing with through personal experience.
If they do get a bit of financial help it should not be all required or the feeling of acheivement and winning would be lost.

starry
08-Apr-09, 12:58
I don't think Starry is trying to say anyone is ungrateful just that it is bound to cross their mind that had they got someone donating greater amounts they would have got more, that doesn't make anyone ungrateful it just tends to be human nature sometimes.

Thank you Pierre x

katarina
08-Apr-09, 13:48
the millionaire bit aside, I think it is a refreshing change to have the real heroes in our world recognized for their work. I mean of course the little people who don't look for any reward other than helping others. I'm so sick of the notorious getting all the publicity. this program renews my faith in human nature.

starry
08-Apr-09, 13:50
That is a good point Kat, I loved the woman who did all the baking this week, I thought she was fantastic.

King_Creon
08-Apr-09, 17:43
I'll watch it, it's not bad at times.

At the same time though it is like self-affirmation for the middle classes - how they lend a helping hand to the working classes then leave straight after.

northener
08-Apr-09, 17:45
I'll watch it, it's not bad at times.

At the same time though it is like self-affirmation for the middle classes - how they lend a helping hand to the working classes then leave straight after.

When really they should be.................?

catran
08-Apr-09, 20:42
when /if i ever win the lottery,i will be round with more than that,shelley.;)
me too i would have a feel day giving loads away what fun that would be shelley so can we get together when the big wins come he he what fun we could have throwing the fivers about

suzyq
08-Apr-09, 21:15
often the input from the 'millionaire' is more beneficial than the actual monetary input - they can often advise how to manage what the charity/person has in a more productive way through better advertising, better packaging etc, thus bringing in more income permanently.
It is more of business advice from someone who has done it and knows what they are talking/dealing with through personal experience.
If they do get a bit of financial help it should not be all required or the feeling of acheivement and winning would be lost.

I agree - The best episode I saw was the one with the property developer. There were some real life-changes in this one, the most significant one being his own. He was a developer who had specialised in acquiring brown field sites, demolishing existing houses and rebuilding new. When he saw for himself what these develpments do to local communities he reversed his own thinking on this.

In cash terms he did not give a great deal compared with others but he did send his own building crews to repair some properties and used his own staff and legal advisers to help fight the compulsory purchase orders.

Anne x
13-Apr-09, 23:48
I watched this programme tonight for the 1st time from Sunderland and must say I enjoyed it very much the folk he helped were so grateful and I think he actually learnt a great deal

Fran
14-Apr-09, 00:33
I love watching this programme, it has helped a lot of organisations. I would be over the moon if a milionaire gave me anything for my project. It would be nice to meet a millionaire too.!!

nicnic74
14-Apr-09, 07:21
I love this programme it has me in tears half e time, especially the loon from glasgow in the last series that had lost his eye sight & the millionaire gave him a donation for the blind dogs & his season tickets to ibrox after the initial shock he was so grateful, it can be very emotional, i look so forward to a sunday nite to watch it.

tiggertoo
14-Apr-09, 21:47
never watched it but canny be much o a secret by time ther on e telly geein there money away for all to see

Blondie
14-Apr-09, 22:05
erm maybe you should watch it before passing comment then :roll:

King_Creon
14-Apr-09, 23:46
When really they should be.................?

Paying much higher taxes!