View Full Version : Waste of money
While i am very sorry for the late jade goody and her family, i felt the flowers were such a waste of money. Just the named wreaths around the coffin alone would have come to over £1,680. Surely the money would have been better spent on forming a charity/organisation in Jades name for children of mothers who have died of cancer.
I felt her funeral was like Princess Diana's, and people had camped out along the roadside all night to get a good view.. The service was screened outside etc etc.
It saddens me to think that our young servicemen fighting for their country abroad, are killed and come home in a box, and their funerals are nothing like this one. Have we forgotten our priorities?
It saddens me to think that our young servicemen fighting for their country abroad, are killed and come home in a box, and their funerals are nothing like this one. Have we forgotten our priorities?
It could be said that some people do have skewed priorities and most servicemen and women understand this. We should remember that after landing, the coffins of dead troops always pass through the town of Wootton Bassett on their way home. Residents there have won nationwide acclaim for their spontaneous support of our fallen troops. Also in services up and down the country local people and members of the Royal British Legion will support their fallen in a quiet and dignified way. For many ‘auld sweats’ that is as it should be.
While i am very sorry for the late jade goody and her family, i felt the flowers were such a waste of money. Just the named wreaths around the coffin alone would have come to over £1,680. Surely the money would have been better spent on forming a charity/organisation in Jades name for children of mothers who have died of cancer.
I felt her funeral was like Princess Diana's, and people had camped out along the roadside all night to get a good view.. The service was screened outside etc etc.
It saddens me to think that our young servicemen fighting for their country abroad, are killed and come home in a box, and their funerals are nothing like this one. Have we forgotten our priorities?
each to their own..and remember they have the right to choose.i want lots of flowers at my funeral...and no money will go to any charity.i support dog charities in my lifetime.it is my choice as it was jade s and her family.
While i am very sorry for the late jade goody and her family, i felt the flowers were such a waste of money. Just the named wreaths around the coffin alone would have come to over £1,680. Surely the money would have been better spent on forming a charity/organisation in Jades name for children of mothers who have died of cancer.
I felt her funeral was like Princess Diana's, and people had camped out along the roadside all night to get a good view.. The service was screened outside etc etc.
It saddens me to think that our young servicemen fighting for their country abroad, are killed and come home in a box, and their funerals are nothing like this one. Have we forgotten our priorities?
it was her money, why couldnt she have the flowers she wanted!it was her funeral, i dont understand why people keep comparing it to servicemen fighting? its completely different, if you dont liker her, stop talking about her, stop starting threads about her, she hasnt harmed you, she has passed away now, she has helped many woman go to get smears(including me) her last wish was the funeral she chose and SHE paid for!im sure if our servicemen had all that £££ they may have the same funeral, who are we to say she should have given the money she spent on flowers to a charity, when she has already done so!
I agree that the flowers were a waste of money but Jade made all the funeral arrangements herself before her death so maybe thats what she personally wanted.I dont know if she footed the bill for every aspect of the funeral but I wouldnt begrudge her the send off she recieved or the cost of it, at the end of the day she has brought a new awareness to cervical cancer & will of saved hundreds of lives which is priceless.
porshiepoo
05-Apr-09, 10:10
I think you have to put yourself in their position.
It's great to think that there are many out there who would rather donate flower money to a worthy charity than to buy expensive flowers but for many people it's about a good send off.
I remember from my young nieces funeral that wandering outside looking at the many wreaths and reading the messages contained bought about a sense of comfort. I do not claim to understand why this happens, it just does.
I do donate to charities but I have to admit that they're mostly dog and horse charities, my sick mind sees animals as more innocent victims than humans. Although please do not interpret that statement to mean that I have no care for those soldiers etc that are away fighting to protect us, I have sent care packages and I have volunteered help during times of global crisis.
Jade Goody had the funeral she both wanted and deserved. Let's not forget that her exposure to cervical cancer may have saved many lives.
She died but many may live. RIP
I wasn't a fan of Jade Goody but have to say I'm sick of the way she is now being criticised in death, as she was in life. The poor girl is gone, leave her alone.
there may be the odd ignorant person out their who still has a go at this young woman, but my god watched the coverage od the funeral on sky yesterday morning, and it was just like when princess di got buried all the flowers being thrown onto the car carrying her coffin, it was such a lovely tribute to her, goes to so there are more thoughtful people than ignorant ones, hope they will now leave her, wouldnt we all liked to be remembered like that, all those thousands of people who stood for hours waiting unto she passed so they could pay their respects to her, as max cliffortd said She would have had a big smile on her face, seeing what was going on. The bit that really upset me was, in her dieing hours she was cradling an imaginary baby, telling jack to be quiet in case he woke the baby up, just what a person who is in the last few hours of life must be thinking. May she now be left alone to rest in peace, and her family given the time to come to terms with this.
R.I.P JADEXXX
Surely everyone should be allowed to have the funeral they -and their family -would like? And an opportunity for people to say goodbye to them in whatever way they want to? Without criticism!
I was not a Jade Goody fan by any means and her funeral is nothing like what I would want for myself but it's really not my business -or anyone else's -is it? :confused
I wasn't a fan of Jade Goody but have to say I'm sick of the way she is now being criticised in death, as she was in life. The poor girl is gone, leave her alone.
I agree with you there Jox.
Fran - Anytime I haven given flowers in rememberance of someone who has died I have never felt it was a waste of money. Yesterday was Joe Publics chance to show how they felt about Jade and they turned out in their thousands. Jade's funeral was bought and paid for by her before she died. The floral tributes were given by family and friends. For them to be made up as words or phrases we all remember Jade for, was her idea. It was her funeral and she deserved to have it the way she wanted it. The outpouring of public sympathy shown by the amount of people and flowers yesterday was something she would have been overwhelmed by. I'm sure her family took great comfort from it too.
Getting back to the money side of things. Fran let's not forget the amount of money that Jade's situation has raised for Cancer Charities and will continue to do so even after her death.
Sadly I can't tell you the name of the last serving soldier to die for his country. I'm sure there are many more like me, especially those criticising Jade, who can't either. But I, along with thousands of others, can tell you who was responsible for raising awareness of cervical cancer screening through her own personal battle with cancer.
Jade died at just 27 but her legacy, saving the lives of countless other young women, will go on.
RIP Jade.
Bad Manners
05-Apr-09, 11:57
Each to their own view of how their funeral should be. If this was her wish then fine. the debate of is it right or wrong does not matter nobody forced anyone to do it. it was their choice.
For me I would not wish flowers at my funeral but that is a personal choice.
I feel it is wrong to compare her to princess Di or fallen military personel,she was neither she was just a popular reality tv celebrity.
It seems that even though she's now dead she will still get slaughtered, People are entitled to have whatever funeral they choose, when I pop my clogs will people post on here how they didnt like my service?:(
Its shameful and disrespectfull to slag off someones funeral.[evil]
percy toboggan
05-Apr-09, 15:56
"leave her alone??"
"slaughtered" ??
Just two of the over reactive phrases seen on this thread.
Fran merely mentioned, in a non-combative way that she saw the money spent on flowers as a 'waste of money'
She is entitled to her opinion - but is nobody now entitled to whisper a breath of negativity about the St.Jade bandwagon?
RIP indeed. May she rest in peace and all vestiges of her and hers sink from the front - and inner pages of my newspaper. I don't begrudge Florists the business, and can see the value of a few flowers at a funeral. Fran's counter view was entriely practical, valid and well constructed.
e. Fran's counter view was entriely practical, valid and well constructed.
That may be the case but why does it always boil down to our soldiers fighting abroad?
Slagging off someones funeral is a low point that even I wouldnt stoop to!!!
"leave her alone??"
"slaughtered" ??
Just two of the over reactive phrases seen on this thread.
Fran merely mentioned, in a non-combative way that she saw the money spent on flowers as a 'waste of money'
She is entitled to her opinion - but is nobody now entitled to whisper a breath of negativity about the St.Jade bandwagon?
RIP indeed. May she rest in peace and all vestiges of her and hers sink from the front - and inner pages of my newspaper. I don't begrudge Florists the business, and can see the value of a few flowers at a funeral. Fran's counter view was entirely practical, valid and well constructed.
Are you on the sauce percy? Thats twice youve posted that now!!![lol]
percy toboggan
05-Apr-09, 16:06
.... Have we forgotten our priorities?
Not so much 'forgotten' as bundled them up and cast them adrift.
The faux fame and celebrity culture seems to have superceeded all in osme circles. I am grateful that people like you see fit to post about it, and I am not flogging an entirely dead donkey when I think along the same lines.
Not only have priorities been forgotten but the very notion of prioritising any worthwhile pursuit above foul mouthed mass viewing televised doggerel is scoffed at by many.
Never mind, I expect the numpty I saw this morning in half-mast pants revealing tatooed calves, topless in a chill April morning, displaying pasty white torso , arm outstretched as he was being yanked along by a muscular, viscious looking brute on the end of a thick chain., other hand holding a can of something which resembled 'blue' Tenants probably enjoyed Big Brother.
"leave her alone??"
"slaughtered" ??
Just two of the over reactive phrases seen on this thread.
Fran merely mentioned, in a non-combative way that she saw the money spent on flowers as a 'waste of money'
She is entitled to her opinion - but is nobody now entitled to whisper a breath of negativity about the St.Jade bandwagon?
RIP indeed. May she rest in peace and all vestiges of her and hers sink from the front - and inner pages of my newspaper. I don't begrudge Florists the business, and can see the value of a few flowers at a funeral. Fran's counter view was entriely practical, valid and well constructed.
What utter tosh, I don't see it as over-reactive. You seem to think it's okay for Fran to criticise Jade, her family and her friends to spend their own money on wreaths of their choice, but it's not okay for us to criticise Fran or others???
I've chosen not to have a funeral nor have money wasted on flowers-my family know of my wishes, but I'd never criticise anothers choice to, even if they wanted the entire contents of Chelsea Flower Show.
Never mind, I expect the numpty I saw this morning in half-mast pants revealing tatooed calves, topless in a chill April morning, displaying pasty white torso , arm outstretched as he was being yanked along by a muscular, viscious looking brute on the end of a thick chain., other hand holding a can of something which resembled 'blue' Tenants probably enjoyed Big Brother.
Dont understand what this bit has to do with anything?:roll:
Funerals are a matter of personal choice. When my time comes it will be family flowers only. I believe a modest amount of flowers are sufficient.
What always puzzles me is people who put money into flowers for people whom they did not know personally. I am of the opinion that such a gesture would be better directed into cash to help raise awareness, or to help treat, the cervical cancer or other cancers that many have praised Jade Goody for helping. Which is more good to the world, a massive floral display from strangers, or tangible help for people with an illness?
The world IS largely insane in its priorities and it will never change, as long as we are free to choose that which we view as important in life.
I was not interested in Jade Goody, or the vehicles that moved her career, but all credit to her for filling a demand and making more money in her lifetime than I will ever see. A tribute magazine carried the headline "Britain Loses Its Brightest Star", a statement which was incorrect on two levels in my opinion. However, for everyone who shared my viewpoint, there were probably two, or more, who couldn't wait to buy the magazine and have a good cry into its pages later on.
It's a funny old game, as Jimmy Greaves would say!!
My personal preference to flowers is that I would rather have them whilst I am alive and can enjoy their fragrance. Donations in lieu of floral tributes at a funeral seem to be the way to go nowadays. The CCU in Raigmore had money to fund extra specialist training from the collection following my late Brother in law`s cremation last year.
The undertaker used by Jade for her last journey was Albin`s of Bermondsey. Did anyone follow them in the series "Don`t drop the coffin". Even my OH who doesn`t do "dead humour" was in stitches for some part of the show each Sunday morning. Perhaps there will be another series following recent events.
Why this vicious over-reaction to Fran's perfectly reasonable post? She is entitled to her opinion (and as it happens I agree) but is it not possible to disagree in an equally reasonable way? Even if we don't know Fran personally (I don't) we all know her through the .org and she deserves some courtesy, not this abuse. Her post was not attacking Jade, merely the over-abundance of flowers which must have cost a fortune and will end up on a rubbish tip.
My apologies if I have offended Fran or anyone else for that matter on this sensitive subject.
Why this vicious over-reaction to Fran's perfectly reasonable post? She is entitled to her opinion (and as it happens I agree) but is it not possible to disagree in an equally reasonable way? Even if we don't know Fran personally (I don't) we all know her through the .org and she deserves some courtesy, not this abuse. Her post was not attacking Jade, merely the over-abundance of flowers which must have cost a fortune and will end up on a rubbish tip.
The way you word your post looks as if Fran is under a full scale assault-which is not the case. Some of us chose to disagree with Fran, none of which I read were discourteous, so I ask you would you kindly point out the posts that are 'vicious over-reactions' and 'abusive' please.
The way you word your post looks as if Fran is under a full scale assault-which is not the case. Some of us chose to disagree with Fran, none of which I read were discourteous, so I ask you would you kindly point out the posts that are 'vicious over-reactions' and 'abusive' please.
yes..please do...??joxville
teenybash
05-Apr-09, 20:02
A final farewell should not come down to money. If those who mourn wish to buy a flower, then so be it. We should not judge anyone who is on their final journey and how friends, family and relatives choose to show their love.....................:(
butterfly
05-Apr-09, 20:03
For those who paid to throw flower's on her hearse or bought flowers for her grave,why shouldnt they?It's their money,they can do what they like with it.Same goes for those who wish to donate it to charity.
Why this vicious over-reaction to Fran's perfectly reasonable post? She is entitled to her opinion (and as it happens I agree) but is it not possible to disagree in an equally reasonable way? Even if we don't know Fran personally (I don't) we all know her through the .org and she deserves some courtesy, not this abuse. Her post was not attacking Jade, merely the over-abundance of flowers which must have cost a fortune and will end up on a rubbish tip.
At last a bit of common sense, which is hard on the Org, I was not a fan of Jade, and this false grief, beating of breasts, we are seeing here, you would think she is going to become a saint. comparing her to Princess Diana!! Princess Di was beautiful, no comparison.
Fran I apologise for me only
cuddlepop
05-Apr-09, 20:11
Jade's funeral like herself was OTT but in all honesty did you expect it to be demure.:confused
For what it's worth, I don't think Fran was criticising Jade, her family or her friends.
She was simply stating her opinion, on what she felt was a waste of money spent on the flowers.
I agree with Fran, which is just my opinion.
Will I know if people send flowers to my funeral ? I won't be able to see them, smell, or touch them, so I would rather have the flowers while I am alive, to enjoy the beauty of them.
A donation, while it won't help me at that time, might be helpful to another person, which I would prefer .
butterfly
05-Apr-09, 20:12
Why this vicious over-reaction to Fran's perfectly reasonable post? She is entitled to her opinion (and as it happens I agree) but is it not possible to disagree in an equally reasonable way? Even if we don't know Fran personally (I don't) we all know her through the .org and she deserves some courtesy, not this abuse. Her post was not attacking Jade, merely the over-abundance of flowers which must have cost a fortune and will end up on a rubbish tip.
EH?!!...............:confused
snip>flowers which must have cost a fortune and will end up on a rubbish tip.
I hope they put them in a composter or wheelie bin for organic waste!
Well I'm baffled. :confused
I truly don't think my post was either a 'vicious over reaction' or 'abuse' of Fran (badger) or 'false grief and beating of breasts' (golach). :eek:
Sorry, golach, I really don't think I have anything to apologise to Fran for, so I'd be very grateful if you'd include me out of your apology.
I think this could well be the last time I post to this forum. :(
At last a bit of common sense, which is hard on the Org, I was not a fan of Jade, and this false grief, beating of breasts, we are seeing here, you would think she is going to become a saint. comparing her to Princess Diana!! Princess Di was beautiful, no comparison.
Fran, I apologise for the rest of the Org.
Can I ask why you are apologising on my behalf? I replied to Fran and there was nothing in my post which warrants an apology. I also have the common sense to know when I should apologise to someone. Who is comparing her to Princess Diana? It was Fran herself who compared Jade's FUNERAL to Diana's, nothing to do with her looks. Beauty at the end of the day is only skin deep.
she shouldnt have got the publicity in the first place anyway
makes no odds to me what her funeral was like,she was disliked then and still is now
Well I'm baffled.
I truly don't think my post was either a 'vicious over reaction' or 'abuse' of Fran (badger) or 'false grief and beating of breasts' (golach).
Sorry, golach, I really don't think I have anything to apologise to Fran for, so I'd be very grateful if you'd include me out of your apology.
I think this could well be the last time I post to this forum. :(
do not give in to bullies,angela....they come ,they go..u must stay,a voice of reason..we need u all.;)
remove me from any apology too,golach...i have nothing to aplogise for.[disgust]
butterfly
05-Apr-09, 20:50
Well I'm baffled. :confused
I truly don't think my post was either a 'vicious over reaction' or 'abuse' of Fran (badger) or 'false grief and beating of breasts' (golach). :eek:
Sorry, golach, I really don't think I have anything to apologise to Fran for, so I'd be very grateful if you'd include me out of your apology.
I think this could well be the last time I post to this forum. :(
He can include mine too.I have said my opinion,that's all !
He can include mine too.I have said my opinion,that's all !
absolutely...this has been some wekend.....roll on monday.;)
Why this vicious over-reaction to Fran's perfectly reasonable post? She is entitled to her opinion (and as it happens I agree) but is it not possible to disagree in an equally reasonable way? Even if we don't know Fran personally (I don't) we all know her through the .org and she deserves some courtesy, not this abuse. Her post was not attacking Jade, merely the over-abundance of flowers which must have cost a fortune and will end up on a rubbish tip.
Quite agree with fran, well me, I think I will have a private one,its all getting out of hand. Nice to go quietly and any donations, well to a good cause hopefully. Nice to have a flower from those you love most dearly. So no need to over react to Fran's post. She has just pointed out the waste. when it could have been better utilised..
well like ive said its her money, it was her funeral her choice!
percy toboggan
05-Apr-09, 21:49
I think this could well be the last time I post to this forum. :(
Good Heavens. Surely not ?
she shouldnt have got the publicity in the first place anyway
makes no odds to me what her funeral was like,she was disliked then and still is now
have you no respect.[evil][evil]
percy toboggan
05-Apr-09, 22:13
'tis interesting to see what exercises some people and gets them hot under the collar.When mild criticism is translated to a 'slagging off' . Anyone who chooses to live in a televised goldfish bowl is bound to attract criticism, and will be loved, and loathed in more or less equal measure.
When the goldfish bowl is motivated by money, backed with minimal talent and a big gob the loathing might outweigh the loving.
The matter of 'respect' is interesting as nobody has the right to be respected beyond minimal , civilised levels of courtesy. When a voluntary decision is made to stick ones head above the parapet of anonymity in pursuit of fame and cash then all bets regarding 'respect' are well and truly off.
Nobody with an ounce of decency wanted Goody to die , but the way her demise was handled was bound to upset folk in every meaning of the word. Live by the sword, die with the sword and I'm afraid her memory will continue to feel the effects of the sword. Cutting criticism and slashing insensitivity goes with the territory she chartered for herself.
purplelady
05-Apr-09, 23:27
she shouldnt have got the publicity in the first place anyway
makes no odds to me what her funeral was like,she was disliked then and still is now
can i ask why she should not have got the publicity she has brought to the fore front a killer discease she was not disliked as the passed months have shown, was not a fan but i feel for her family and the poor boys in the money in the world will not replace their mum x
Well I'm baffled. :confused
I truly don't think my post was either a 'vicious over reaction' or 'abuse' of Fran (badger) or 'false grief and beating of breasts' (golach). :eek:
Sorry, golach, I really don't think I have anything to apologise to Fran for, so I'd be very grateful if you'd include me out of your apology.
I think this could well be the last time I post to this forum. :(
Like Percy I hope not ! I have never known you to be vicious or to over-react and this was not a blanket comment on all posts but I did feel some of them were - actually on both sides of the argument as balto has pointed out to upolian. Is it not possible to have a discussion like this - especially when it involves death - without unpleasant comments flying around?
Jade courted publicity in life and death so people are bound to have opinions about her. I feel spending huge sums of money on funerals (or weddings for that matter but I'd better not start on that one) is a pity when it could make a more lasting difference used in some other way. Others obviously feel differently. That's my right and theirs but can't we disagree without insulting either the dead or the living?
I certainly wasn't criticising Jade and her family, i know what they have been through. I was just saying thousands of pounds was wasted on flowers when instead it could have gone to macmillan care or another cancer charity to help other patients etc etc. In Caithness a lot of people ask for donations instead of flowers and this helps to make terminally ill cancer patients, and others, comfortable and without unnecesssary worry.I know Jade was given a lot of help, and her family, and the donations instead of thousands of pounds spent on flowers could have done so much for so many people.
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.