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crayola
28-Mar-09, 13:34
When I was googling for the 'Was Darwin right?' thread I came across a web page entitled

Is the Special Theory of Relativity Wrong? (http://www.webspawner.com/users/relativity/)


Author: Greg Alexander
Date: 17 Sept 2003


These days it would appear that the Special Theory of Relativity was beyond any form of doubt however I have a theoretical proof that would strongly suggest that the theory is fundamentally flawed. Indeed the proof is so straight forward it is a wonder so many supposedly acute minds have previously overlooked it. The proof runs as follows :

If an observer with velocity v heads towards a beam of light one would have expected that the measurable velocity of the light beam would have been c + v. However according to the Special Theory of Relativity because time slows down and length decreases with velocity, the measured velocity of the beam would still be c. In other words a change in space and time for the observer slowed the new velocity of c + v back down to c again. However if the observer now heads in the opposite direction with the same velocity one would have expected that the measurable velocity of the beam without any relativistic effects, would now be c – v. But on this occasion a change in space and time for the observer would have to increase the measured velocity of light, the exact opposite of the case with c + v. But how could this be if time slows and length decreases with velocity, for the opposite to occur one would have expected that time would have needed to have speeded up and length increased? However both cannot be the case so therefore the speed of light could not remain constant when an observer’s velocity changed with respect to either magnitude or direction.

Q.E.D. If it's really that simple don't you think someone would have noticed before 2003? What do you think, could we have been fed a red herring for a hundred years? :confused

Rheghead
28-Mar-09, 14:23
Errr, DrSzin where are you??:confused

Tristan
28-Mar-09, 14:55
I believe the theory causes changes in time and space including perceived distances.
After all it is relative.

It won't answer your question but this is an interesting http://www.fearofphysics.com/Relativity/relativity.html site to show you what physicists think things look like at light speeds

Kenn
28-Mar-09, 14:57
I have always understood the speed of light to be constant unless refracted/diverted through a secondary medium, if that is the case,then distance from the light would be immaterial which would make the theory proposed a complete nonsense.

I now wait to be shot down in flames by the boffins!

Rheghead
28-Mar-09, 15:50
The Theory of Relativity has to be wrong or incomplete because it lacks unity with physics on the small scale. Einstein fully accepted this and he tried for years to come up with a unifying theory.

crayola
29-Mar-09, 02:04
Thank you all for your thoughts.

He has another page

Proof that E could Never Equal mc squared (http://www.webspawner.com/users/massenergy/)

Could this be true?

Tristan
29-Mar-09, 09:19
The Theory of Relativity has to be wrong or incomplete because it lacks unity with physics on the small scale. Einstein fully accepted this and he tried for years to come up with a unifying theory.

That is true about anything in physics including the work of Newton and other physicists.

Tristan
29-Mar-09, 09:29
Thank you all for your thoughts.

He has another page

Proof that E could Never Equal mc squared (http://www.webspawner.com/users/massenergy/)

Could this be true?

Taking a quick look it looked like a lot of waffle I am afraid. The authors point at the end that W=Fxt ignores that the point that force = mass x acceleration (F=Mxa) which has a second time component in it which acceleration = velocity /time a= v/t. Your authors seems to be ignoring this second time component which I believe accounts for the differences.