Evil rears its head again

[hotrod4]

As most will have read, 2 innocent young men were shot by cowards in Northern Ireland the day before going to Afghanistan.
I only hope the people of Northern Ireland can get some peace without theses cowards blighting their lifes. I only pray that there are no revenge attacks, but i wouldnt hold my breath.[evil]

[bekisman]

I expect right this second moves are afoot by the present Republicans (in power) to 'sort' out the defects that carried out this cowards act, I very much doubt if the Police will even have a look in..

[NickInTheNorth]

I expect right this second moves are afoot by the present Republicans (in power) to 'sort' out the defects that carried out this cowards act, I very much doubt if the Police will even have a look in..

That was exactly my first thought, especially after hearing the alleged one time head of the PIRA Army Council condemning the action and stating that despite there best efforts to start another war they will not succeed.

[Gene Hunt]

I wont weep if the vermin who did this get a long walk to a shallow grave. It saves us the expense of a trial and of keeping them in prison until they are released after serving a few short years as part of an amnesty.

The most important thing though are the families who have lost loved ones, I hope they find peace eventually.

[Melancholy Man]

Six innocent men. In one of those truly unfortunate pieces if timing, the day before, Martin McGuinness had complained (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7927178.stm) about the Special Reconnaissance Regiment (although he called it special forces 'cos that sounds more sinister) being utilized.

[TBH]

Six innocent men. In one of those truly unfortunate pieces if timing, the day before, Martin McGuinness had complained (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7927178.stm) about the Special Reconnaissance Regiment (although he called it special forces 'cos that sounds more sinister) being utilized.What's your point about the six innocent men?

[hotrod4]

What's your point about the six innocent men?
I think what MM means is 6 innocent men were involved, 2killed 4 hurt that are innocent in the fact that all they wanted was a pizza and 2 of the guys were delivering it.
What is more sickening is the fact that they pumped more bullets in as the guys were on the ground after the contact.Hopefully they will be caught soon or at least strung up from a lampost somewhere.

[TBH]

I think what MM means is 6 innocent men were involved, 2killed 4 hurt that are innocent in the fact that all they wanted was a pizza and 2 of the guys were delivering it.
What is more sickening is the fact that they pumped more bullets in as the guys were on the ground after the contact.Hopefully they will be caught soon or at least strung up from a lampost somewhere.I'd imagine they will be caught but a lynching from a lampost will be the least of their concerns.[disgust]

[teenybash]

I believe this was a cold brutal murder carried out by sadistic killers who will now be glorying in the publicity, in some grotty backroom. I would not think they have connection into the PIRA......Because they have chosen to link their action to republicanism, resulting in running the risk of throwing the peace process in a backwoard direction, both Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams will have silent energies at work to ferret the gremlins out................

[Melancholy Man]

This really was the I.R.A... whoops, sorry... the Real I.R.A. Plausible deniability, eh?

You're right, Hotrod, I was. See also (http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=3712) the views of a luminary of the Edinburgh Stop the War Coalition, John Wight, who has previously excoriated Sinn Fein for giving up "the Struggle" in addition to threatening to 'sort' me out.

[hotrod4]

This really was the I.R.A... whoops, sorry... the Real I.R.A. Plausible deniability, eh?

You're right, Hotrod, I was. See also (http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=3712) the views of a luminary of the Edinburgh Stop the War Coalition, John Wight, who has previously excoriated Sinn Fein for giving up "the Struggle" in addition to threatening to 'sort' me out.
Mr Wights comments as far as I can see are a little blinkered from what i can make out. He seems to go into detail about Loyalist areas etc and how their is a divide but doesnt really criticise The IRA at all. He seems more intent on lighting the touch paper and standing well back. Not much of a report into what happened more a blinkered view from behind rose tinted glasses.

[DeHaviLand]

Mr Wights comments as far as I can see are a little blinkered from what i can make out. He seems to go into detail about Loyalist areas etc and how their is a divide but doesnt really criticise The IRA at all. He seems more intent on lighting the touch paper and standing well back. Not much of a report into what happened more a blinkered view from behind rose tinted glasses.

Dont you just love how he brands Loyalists as sectarian, yet Republicans are merely staging "an uncompromising resistance to British rule". He berates partition, but totally omits to make any reference as to why it was needed. He criticises the open displays of Loyalism in Loyalist strongholds, but forgets to mention the many displays of Republicanism in Republican areas.

In my opinion, the man is just another hypocrite who cant see that it's because of people like him that there will never be more than an uneasy peace in Ulster.

My heartfelt sympathies go out to the families of the bereaved and injured.

[binbob]

Dont you just love how he brands Loyalists as sectarian, yet Republicans are merely staging "an uncompromising resistance to British rule". He berates partition, but totally omits to make any reference as to why it was needed. He criticises the open displays of Loyalism in Loyalist strongholds, but forgets to mention the many displays of Republicanism in Republican areas.

In my opinion, the man is just another hypocrite who cant see that it's because of people like him that there will never be more than an uneasy peace in Ulster.

My heartfelt sympathies go out to the families of the bereaved and injured.
ditto..very well put..

[The Pepsi Challenge]

These idiots are just blood thirsty maniacs with no mandate; fools who get a kick out of killing and death. It isn't a unified Ireland which motivates these people - its pulling on a mask, shooting someone dead and then going back to a drinking club to receive the adulation of their adoring public, that is.

[The Pepsi Challenge]

http://theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2494471.0.Policeman_dies_in_Northern_I reland_shooting.php

[Kenn]

Yes it was a cowardly attack and I hope that those who perpetrated the deed will be brought to book but I have little hope of that.
What amazes me is that the people of the Irish isle refer to it as "The Troubles," where as to any one else it would be civil war, if they cannot face up to the realities of the past then there is little chance that they have a secure future.
There will always be a few fanatics who care not a jot for the opinions of the majority and whilst I know well that the history of Ireland has been a tortuous one surely it must be time to move on.

[teenybash]

These idiots are just blood thirsty maniacs with no mandate; fools who get a kick out of killing and death. It isn't a unified Ireland which motivates these people - its pulling on a mask, shooting someone dead and then going back to a drinking club to receive the adulation of their adoring public, that is.

I agree with what you have said and I base this on the fact NI was my home for many years through the troubled times.
There are those who can give their opinions on the military aspects and their thoughts on this politician or that one but, it all comes down to the effect on the ordinary folk of Ireland, both sides of the divide...Lets all hope the politicians and police continue to work together on clearing out those who stand for no more than the 'destrcuction' of ordinary lives.

[Melancholy Man]

Any popular pressure group or political organization should think carefully before allowing Wight to speak on their behalf. Here (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20070218/ai_n18625489) he is criticizing Sinn Féin for not being extreme enough (note also whom he acts as bat-man to). Here (http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=1627) he is promoting neo-Nazi literature. Here (http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=2052) he is, when he presumably thought there was no further opportunity for violent insurrection in Northern Ireland, stirring it up in another country.

This man is a public face of the Stop the War Coalition and Scottish Palestinian Solidarity. That he is not, I think, particularly intelligent is not a mitigation. Instead, he lacks the cognitative ability to tell where he's left righteous anger and joined political psychopathy.

Meanwhile, the I.R.A. continues... whoops... the Continuity I.R.A. has murdered (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7934426.stm) someone else.

[teenybash]

Any popular pressure group or political organization should think carefully before allowing Wight to speak on their behalf. Here (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20070218/ai_n18625489) he is criticizing Sinn Féin for not being extreme enough (note also whom he acts as bat-man to). Here (http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=1627) he is promoting neo-Nazi literature. Here (http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=2052) he is, when he presumably thought there was no further opportunity for violent insurrection in Northern Ireland, stirring it up in another country.

This man is a public face of the Stop the War Coalition and Scottish Palestinian Solidarity. That he is not, I think, particularly intelligent is not a mitigation. Instead, he lacks the cognitative ability to tell where he's left righteous anger and joined political psychopathy.

Meanwhile, the I.R.A. continues... whoops... the Continuity I.R.A. has murdered (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7934426.stm) someone else.

Who is John Wight and what is his connection to NI or anywhere in Ireland for that matter. What heed would anyone take of him as he seem to be anti this and anti that..........

[Melancholy Man]

I'm not sure what his background is, and suspect any drink we had together would result in a major falling out very quickly. He can be seen, though, to attach himself to the most aggressively anti-British/American/Israeli movements he can find.

[teenybash]

I'm not sure what his background is, and suspect any drink we had together would result in a major falling out very quickly. He can be seen, though, to attach himself to the most aggressively anti-British/American/Israeli movements he can find.

Thanks MM as I could not find out anything on this man except his 'anti' stance......... I doubt if anyone in Ireland would be interested in his opinion as it probably would serve no purpose.:)

[Melancholy Man]

Certainly not in the Irish Republic where 95% of the population voted against retaining the claim to Northern Ireland.

[teenybash]

Certainly not in the Irish Republic where 95% of the population voted against retaining the claim to Northern Ireland.

It is interesting to note that also in NI the majority of people wish to remain part of Britain.

[The Pepsi Challenge]

The majority of who, though?

[teenybash]

The majority of who, though?

The ordinary everyday people who live in NI..........shopkeepers, farmers, factory workers.............