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MasterSplinter
07-Mar-09, 19:49
If you had the power to choose what punishments criminals would have to serve for certain crimes, what would they be.
Murder
Manslaughter
Armed Robbery
child abuse
these types of crimes and of course lesser crimes like driving whilst disqualified, shoplifting
Nows your chance to become judge and jury on crimes and suitable punishments.
The reason for this is some crimes are serious and the sentences recieved are a joke, families of victims deserve justice and sometimes they dont recieve it.:roll:
Call me right wing but here are the scores from the Kinbrace team :
Murder - Hanging or 30 years Mimimum (Served)
Manslaughter - 20 years (Served)
Armed Robbery - 15 years (Served)
child abuse - Life (Whole of Life Served )
All the above are minimum tariff.
No remission for any reason whatsover & no compensation for perceived wrongs, in other words no uman rites.
Life imprisonment should mean life imprisonment for all of the above
Murder-Death
Manslaughter-20 years
Armed Robbery-20 years
child abuse-Death
Murder-Hanged or life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Manslaughter-Life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Armed robbery-25 years & £500,000 fine
Child abuse-Hanging or life, £500,000 min. to victim
Drink/drug driving-15 years & life ban
Death by dangerous driving-Life & £500,000 min to victim's family
Shoplifting/theft-5 years & £10,000 fine
GBH-10 years and min. £20,000 to victim
Carrying a weapon-10 years & £20,000 fine
Burglary-10 years & £30,000 min. to victim
Embezzlement/fraud-10 years & £100,000 min. fine
Careless/reckless driving-5 year ban, re-sit test.
All minimum sentences and no remission.
PS I may add more to this list.
MasterSplinter
07-Mar-09, 21:43
Murder-Hanged or life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Manslaughter-Life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Armed robbery-25 years & £500,000 fine
Child abuse-Hanging or life, £500,000 min. to victim
Drink/drug driving-15 years & life ban
Death by dangerous driving-Life & £500,000 min to victim's family
Shoplifting/theft-5 years & £10,000 fine
GBH-10 years and min. £20,000 to victim
Carrying a weapon-10 years & £20,000 fine
Burglary-10 years & £30,000 min. to victim
Embezzlement/fraud-10 years & £100,000 min. fine
Careless/reckless driving-5 year ban, re-sit test.
All minimum sentences and no remission.
PS I may add more to this list.
You have just got my vote for Posistion of judge:lol:
oldmarine
07-Mar-09, 21:50
If you had the power to choose what punishments criminals would have to serve for certain crimes, what would they be.
Murder
Manslaughter
Armed Robbery
child abuse
these types of crimes and of course lesser crimes like driving whilst disqualified, shoplifting
Nows your chance to become judge and jury on crimes and suitable punishments.
The reason for this is some crimes are serious and the sentences recieved are a joke, families of victims deserve justice and sometimes they dont recieve it.:roll:
The maximum the court (judge/jury) would allow. There are laws to hold all those responsible/accountable for their misdeeds.
ShelleyCowie
07-Mar-09, 21:51
Murder-Hanged or life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Manslaughter-Life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Armed robbery-25 years & £500,000 fine
Child abuse-Hanging or life, £500,000 min. to victim
Drink/drug driving-15 years & life ban
Death by dangerous driving-Life & £500,000 min to victim's family
Shoplifting/theft-5 years & £10,000 fine
GBH-10 years and min. £20,000 to victim
Carrying a weapon-10 years & £20,000 fine
Burglary-10 years & £30,000 min. to victim
Embezzlement/fraud-10 years & £100,000 min. fine
Careless/reckless driving-5 year ban, re-sit test.
All minimum sentences and no remission.
PS I may add more to this list.
Jeepers no mercy from Jox, but agree with u 100% on all o them.
child abuse and murder should be punished with death.Nowadays you can be proved to be 100% guilty with all the forensic evidence,why clog up the world with worthless scum!
changilass
07-Mar-09, 22:00
I would double the sentences suggested so far, that way you could let them take half of for good behaviour, otherwise what incentive have they to behave in jail - don't want all the prison officers done in.
butterfly
07-Mar-09, 22:01
Call me right wing but here are the scores from the Kinbrace team :
Murder - Hanging or 30 years Mimimum (Served)
Manslaughter - 20 years (Served)
Armed Robbery - 15 years (Served)
child abuse - Life (Whole of Life Served )
All the above are minimum tariff.
No remission for any reason whatsover & no compensation for perceived wrongs, in other words no uman rites.
i agree with the above
Murder-Hanged or life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Manslaughter-Life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Armed robbery-25 years & £500,000 fine
Child abuse-Hanging or life, £500,000 min. to victim
Drink/drug driving-15 years & life ban
Death by dangerous driving-Life & £500,000 min to victim's family
Shoplifting/theft-5 years & £10,000 fine
GBH-10 years and min. £20,000 to victim
Carrying a weapon-10 years & £20,000 fine
Burglary-10 years & £30,000 min. to victim
Embezzlement/fraud-10 years & £100,000 min. fine
Careless/reckless driving-5 year ban, re-sit test.
All minimum sentences and no remission.
PS I may add more to this list.
Fantasy Island stuff, sadly, Jox. Prisons are chock-a-block already. We don't have the money to either imprison offenders for longer sentences, nor compensate victims and their families.
There are loads of people who want the Government to do "This" or "That" but NOBODY wants to pay the higher taxes that would be required. People will be in Homebase etc tomorrow, buying things they don't really need. It is a symptom of the consumerist society we live in. Mention a tax that might help make the country a better place though, and everyone will throw a wobbly!!
Have to agree with scorrie that all our sentencing plans are fantasy island stuff. It makes me wonder how the USA for example finances their prison regime.
The cost of keeping wrongdoers locked away seems to be irrelevant.
jock leith
08-Mar-09, 09:58
Worked in the Prison Service for 22 years until I retired 2 years ago.the prison system is over stretched in its present form.If you sentence criminals/murderers etc with no hope of release the consequences for all staff who work in the Prisons would be horrific.
If the system was run as suggested by most of those who have posted,every prison in the UK would have to be refurbished to run a regime suitable for the safety of all concerened,staff and prisoners alike.
Total lockup with controled unlocking procedures would be the order of the day.The cost of the huge increase in staffing/running costs would be staggering.And when everyone was told that their tax contributions would double to fund the project I suggest that most would see things in a different light.
I am in favour of tougher and more transparent sentencing,but things are so complex that you really need to have worked in the service to understand how things work.I could go on for hours with suggestions but would bore you all.Most people I know have the same views as most of you,a referendom on Capital punishment will never take place as those in power will argue some innocent people were executed over the years and no PRIME MINISTER would want to the one to bring it back.
JL
MasterSplinter
08-Mar-09, 12:23
Seems we have a lot that would agree to the death penalty.Now the question is would there be an age limit for the death sentence as the criminals commiting murder these days are younger. teens infact, do they deserve the right to a second chance or would you keep your sentences set.:)
Jeepers no mercy from Jox, but agree with u 100% on all o them.
people that think they can abuse, hurt even kill someone deserves no mercy, know what i would like to do to people who think they can sexually, physically hurt children, but think i would get banned if i said.
Seems we have a lot that would agree to the death penalty.Now the question is would there be an age limit for the death sentence as the criminals commiting murder these days are younger. teens infact, do they deserve the right to a second chance or would you keep your sentences set.:)
death sentance is to easy, make them suffer.
MasterSplinter
08-Mar-09, 12:42
There is the Hung, drawn and quartered, would that do it.
Hung till nearly dead, then body sliced open and the intestines pulled out and burned before their own eyes, then finally laid in a coffin and then beheaded. or would that be too much to suffer.
I take on board what Jock Leith says, he has been there, done that. BUT in this country at least, sentencing seems to be a bit of a joke for the perpetrators of crime especially the rapists, child molesters, and child killers who do not seem to serve a decent term.
mastersplinter mentions 'hung, drawn & quartered', in jest I know, but recently the media have been reporting on a case in Dundee involving a small child and in this type of situation I would personally do the hanging, drawing & quartering, and you may be assured it would take me long time to finish the job.
MasterSplinter
08-Mar-09, 13:50
I take on board what Jock Leith says, he has been there, done that. BUT in this country at least, sentencing seems to be a bit of a joke for the perpetrators of crime especially the rapists, child molesters, and child killers who do not seem to serve a decent term.
mastersplinter mentions 'hung, drawn & quartered', in jest I know, but recently the media have been reporting on a case in Dundee involving a small child and in this type of situation I would personally do the hanging, drawing & quartering, and you may be assured it would take me long time to finish the job.
For the likes of child abuse cases then add castration into the "hung drawn and quartered".
Murder-Hanged or life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Manslaughter-Life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Armed robbery-25 years & £500,000 fine
Child abuse-Hanging or life, £500,000 min. to victim
Drink/drug driving-15 years & life ban
Death by dangerous driving-Life & £500,000 min to victim's family
Shoplifting/theft-5 years & £10,000 fine
GBH-10 years and min. £20,000 to victim
Carrying a weapon-10 years & £20,000 fine
Burglary-10 years & £30,000 min. to victim
Embezzlement/fraud-10 years & £100,000 min. fine
Careless/reckless driving-5 year ban, re-sit test.
All minimum sentences and no remission.
PS I may add more to this list.
You fogot an overdue library book. :lol:
You fogot an overdue library book. :lol:
Yes all of the above plus being cheeky on the .org.
Gene Hunt
08-Mar-09, 16:22
Big fan of the death penalty for murderers, rapists, and child abusers.
Other crimes that rate custodial sentences should be served with hard time. Bring back chain gangs, make punishment work for the community and be a visible humiliation. Prison is after all meant to be a punishment.
And to counter the "Human Rights" lobby there should be an act to ensure we above all have "Human Responsibilities", if you go outside these you lose your "Human Rights"
Hi Davie. Love the avatar. Have a money box like that!
You fogot an overdue library book. :lol:
They'll have the book thrown at them then. :D
piratelassie
09-Mar-09, 01:19
[disgust]I think the sentences is to lenient in this country and it is not a deterant. I was thinking of some foreign countries and the punishments they get for there crimes.....like cut off a thiefs hand etc.,
We are too soft .... it should be a life for a life.... and maybe this knife culture among the young would cease..
Give them all to me, I'll take care o em;)
Murder-Hanged or life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Manslaughter-Life, £500,000 min. to victim's family
Armed robbery-25 years & £500,000 fine
Child abuse-Hanging or life, £500,000 min. to victim
Drink/drug driving-15 years & life ban
Death by dangerous driving-Life & £500,000 min to victim's family
Shoplifting/theft-5 years & £10,000 fine
GBH-10 years and min. £20,000 to victim
Carrying a weapon-10 years & £20,000 fine
Burglary-10 years & £30,000 min. to victim
Embezzlement/fraud-10 years & £100,000 min. fine
Careless/reckless driving-5 year ban, re-sit test.
All minimum sentences and no remission.
PS I may add more to this list.
I'm Jox's secretary, just updating his list here:-
Riding a Bicycle without lights-25 years and a £500,000 fine
N.B. Above penalty doubled if occurring when it is dark outside!!
I'm Jox's secretary, just updating his list here:-
Riding a Bicycle without lights-25 years and a £500,000 fine
N.B. Above penalty doubled if occurring when it is dark outside!!
I think that's too severe-we'll forget about the fne. :D
You people are completely insane!
Crapping on someone's shower-seat - £100 fine plus sending the perp, home-made Birthday, Christmas cards with a picture of the offending turd on the front, as a reminder of their misdeed.
Crapping on someone's shower-seat - £100 fine plus sending the perp, home-made Birthday, Christmas cards with a picture of the offending turd on the front, as a reminder of their misdeed.
Sadly, I didn't get a photo of the offending Mutant Ninja Turd.
Anyway, Crapping on a shower seat? Priceless!! For everything else there's Mastercard ;)
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