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rfr10
30-Jan-06, 16:51
Can we have a vote on this please as we were being asked today whether or not we want uniform or not.

Chillie
30-Jan-06, 16:57
Is this not a bit silly only asking pupils and teachers we parents have to buy the clothes:confused: :confused:

cuddlepop
30-Jan-06, 17:48
You know as well as us adults,the kids are going to say no.....So whats the point?[smirk]

Rheghead
30-Jan-06, 18:13
Is this not a bit silly only asking pupils and teachers we parents have to buy the clothes:confused: :confused:

Isn't he is asking everyone?

DrSzin
30-Jan-06, 18:42
Isn't he is asking everyone?Yes he is. But I'm not going to vote because it's none of my business.

Btw what's a MOS? :confused:

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 19:08
Yes he is. But I'm not going to vote because it's none of my business.

Btw what's a MOS? :confused:Mos is my dog's name but she's not old enough to vote yet!!!:confused: She'd make a great teacher though!!...lol

Chillie
30-Jan-06, 19:09
Yes he is. But I'm not going to vote because it's none of my business.
Btw what's a MOS? :confused:

But it is my business as a pupils parent, you could have people voting that have no interest like the Doc.So that why there should be a vote for WHS parents only.
SYP like its parent wrong again.

Yes what does MOS mean.

elaine
30-Jan-06, 20:19
Member of Staff maybe?

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 20:26
Member of Staff maybe?Thanks Elaine :D

Venture
30-Jan-06, 20:33
I am slightly confused here Robin. Your poll asks do you want uniform to be made compulsary. Is that what you were asked today at school or was it just a case of you were asked do you want to order any of the uniform items available. Maybe its a case of if enough pupils start to wear the uniform it might be decided to then make it compulsory as has happened in some of the primary schools over the years.

spiggie
30-Jan-06, 21:57
have we not covered this subject before and had many arguments on it...? or am i just experiencing de ja vu?

caithnessboyagee
30-Jan-06, 22:14
I think it should be up to the teenager if they want to wear the unifroms or not as they are the ones that will have to wear it. No one chooses the teachers clothing so why should the teenager be made to wear a unifrom . I think you should wear what you feel comfortable in .

~~Tides~~
30-Jan-06, 22:21
How did you get to make polls anyway?

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 22:48
I am slightly confused here Robin. Your poll asks do you want uniform to be made compulsary. Is that what you were asked today at school or was it just a case of you were asked do you want to order any of the uniform items available. Maybe its a case of if enough pupils start to wear the uniform it might be decided to then make it compulsory as has happened in some of the primary schools over the years.

We were asked as a class to vote on whether we approve of school uniform. MOS does stand for Member of Staff.

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 22:49
I think it should be up to the teenager if they want to wear the unifroms or not as they are the ones that will have to wear it. No one chooses the teachers clothing so why should the teenager be made to wear a unifrom . I think you should wear what you feel comfortable in .

At last! someone who has the same oppinion as me. :-)

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 22:51
How did you get to make polls anyway?
What do you mean, how did I get to make polls? All trusted members can.

angela5
30-Jan-06, 22:58
We were asked as a class to vote on whether we approve of school uniform. MOS does stand for Member of Staff.


and did you vote robin?

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 23:12
What's the big deal about wearing a uniform anyway. The chances aere that when you leave school and get a job there will be some sort of dress code.
I don't particularly like what i have to wear to my work but if I didn't wear it I would be out of a job... it just makes me all the more grateful when on my day off i can wear whatever i like.. Robin, maybe if you want to be treated like an adult you should start acting like one..If you were mine I yould drag you by the ear to marks and sparks and have you fitted out for the whole works..tie, blazer and cap..i'd have you ready for the real world...:Razz

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:12
I voted against it along with everyone else in the class (except the teacher of course)

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:13
What's the big deal about wearing a uniform anyway. The chances aere that when you leave school and get a job there will be some sort of dress code.
I don't particularly like what i have to wear to my work but if I didn't wear it I would be out of a job... it just makes me all the more grateful when on my day off i can wear whatever i like.. Robin, maybe if you want to be treated like an adult you should start acting like one..If you were mine I yould drag you by the ear to marks and sparks and have you fitted out for the whole works..tie, blazer and cap..i'd have you ready for the real world...:Razz

Excuse me but I haven actually said anything on this thread so dont start on something I said in another post please.

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 23:17
Excuse me but I haven actually said anything on this thread so dont start on something I said in another post please.Why not..im just saving you going through it all again..lol;)

Cedric Farthsbottom III
30-Jan-06, 23:21
I wore school uniform from primary one to sixth year o' the High school,not the same one it would have been a bit smelly.I wore it not because it was compulsory but because I felt good to be a pupil at a school.Then when ye got home ye would change into your normal stuff to go off for a game o'fitba.....at the end o' the day its what ye do at school that makes your future not what you wear.

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:23
Im not going to be arguing again and the last time, I had to make up some excuse not to wear it, even if it was stupid reasons. I was just being awkward. All I want to see now is what everyone thinks. The results so far are what I thought- everyone not at school is FOR the uniform, Mite have known.

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 23:25
I could say the same thing about my work but I doubt if it would go down too well with the boss!!

angela5
30-Jan-06, 23:26
this reminds me of playing in the playground[lol] [lol]

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:27
I could say the same thing about my work but I doubt if it would go down too well with the boss!!

Are you a teacher?

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 23:30
Are you a teacher?hahahaha Robin, you've made my night... :lol: :lol:

Venture
30-Jan-06, 23:32
.....and caithnessboyagee are you a teenager? I wore uniform at High School and it never did me any harm.

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:33
hahahaha Robin, you've made my night... :lol: :lol:

Well you voted as a teacher on the poll so I was just assuming that you were one.

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 23:34
Well you voted as a teacher on the poll so I was just assuming that you were one.Robin..are you spying on me..lol...i didn't even know what MOS was for..;) :lol:

angela5
30-Jan-06, 23:36
hope this lasts longer than break time[lol] [lol]

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:36
lol, no I'm not, I am just looking to see what teachers would vote for and against the uniform.

Cedric Farthsbottom III
30-Jan-06, 23:41
Connie,MOS stands for' my old socks'.Robin pal you're not a politician yet don't get too excited over folks views.

connieb19
30-Jan-06, 23:42
lol, no I'm not, I am just looking to see what teachers would vote for and against the uniform.So did you think I was a teacher before I voted..lol... Which teacher do you think I am ,,With my nice dress code..maybe you could just start getting used to the uniform slowly.. nice pressed trousers or something. You never know, with you being the msyp maybe others will follow your good example..:Razz

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:42
.Robin pal you're not a politician yet don't get too excited over folks views.

Explain please

rfr10
30-Jan-06, 23:44
So did you think I was a teacher before I voted..lol... Which teacher do you think I am ,,With my nice dress code..maybe you could just start getting used to the uniform slowly.. nice pressed trousers or something. You never know, with you being the msyp maybe others will follow your good example..:Razz
I didn't think you were a teacher, I just went by your vote

Cedric Farthsbottom III
30-Jan-06, 23:48
You are getting a bit carried away wi yourself,you asked for folks votes so there views should just be as valuable.

2little2late
31-Jan-06, 00:12
School uniforms should be compulsory. It would stop all the kids wanting to wear designer clothing. Fortunately my bairns aren't into designer gear. If they were there is no way we would be able to afford it anyway.

So yes, school uniform should be made compulsory.

nightowl
31-Jan-06, 00:30
I would love the kids in WHS to try wearing uniform again.
I've been following the thread with great interest and after reading Elaine's link, http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=519&id=2067772005, the evidence that a simple thing like wearing uniform actually improves exam results, is compelling.
Why not give it a try guys and maybe you'll be on your way to reaching your full potential!
Good luck

DW
31-Jan-06, 00:47
You are getting a bit carried away wi yourself,you asked for folks votes so there views should just be as valuable.

Robin is quite right, Connie voted in the category
'Yes, I am a teacher / mos'

So it is reasonable for him to assume she is a teacher.!!!

connieb19
31-Jan-06, 00:49
Robin is quite right, Connie voted in the category
'Yes, I am a teacher / mos'

So it is reasonable for him to assume she is a teacher.!!!I might be a cleaner...for all you know[para] I thought he said MOP!!!

Cedric Farthsbottom III
31-Jan-06, 00:55
Sweatybetty,I was referring to all the good folks who were on the forum tonight,not necessarily Connie,although i do hear she would like a new microwave....hee-hee

DrSzin
31-Jan-06, 01:17
I would love the kids in WHS to try wearing uniform again.
I've been following the thread with great interest and after reading Elaine's link, http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=519&id=2067772005, the evidence that a simple thing like wearing uniform actually improves exam results, is compelling.
Why not give it a try guys and maybe you'll be on your way to reaching your full potential!
Good luckNightowl, did you read that article in its entirety? It does not present compelling "evidence a that simple thing like wearing uniform actually improves exam results". There's a lot more to it than that, as discussed on the previous thread (http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?t=6044&highlight=uniform). I happen to know that some of the schools mentioned in that thread have had new headteachers in recent years, and it's the general policies and new cultures instigated by those heads that have made the differences. These new cultures include the wearing of uniforms, but the latter itself is no panacea. Besides, the article is mainly about improvements in behaviour, reduction of bullying and truancy, not improvements in exam results.

Did you read the arguments on the previous thread, eg the posts by SweatyBetty (http://forum.caithness.org/showpost.php?p=50451&postcount=69)and myself (http://forum.caithness.org/showpost.php?p=50675&postcount=83). I think you do the staff and pupils at Castlebrae Community High School school a great disservice by attributing their success to the mere introduction of uniforms. Uniforms were introduced last year, but the exam-result improvement took place in the years before then. The environmental and socio-economic changes in Craigmillar and Niddrie must surely contribute too.

I know lots of teachers in various different high schools, both privileged and otherwise, so I hear the stories from both ends of the spectrum.

As an amusing addendum, I'd like to point out that the wearing of uniforms by high school pupils doesn't necesarily mean smart-looking kids. I live close to one of Scotland's most well-known private schools where full uniform is compulsory in all years. You should see some of the sights on their way to school in the morning. Even my son, who's in Primary 7 at our local state school, has pointed out on several occasions that the private school pupils look more like chavs than the local state high school pupils. And he's dead right! :D

JAWS
31-Jan-06, 02:08
Dr.S, if the kids going to the private school in their uniforms get away with looking like chavs then that is down to the school. If I'd have tried that at a state school the headmaster would have taken it as a personal affront.
It would have proved a most painful experience, most painful indeed.
I always pushed my luck and often got close to a very fine line which was not to be crossed.
The trick was to make sure you didn't take that one step to far but if you did then you accepted your punishment without complaint.
There were certain standards which you abided by. Even when it came to scraps in the playground there were things you didn't do because they were considered cowardly and if you did, even you friends would turn their backs on you in disgust.

The fact that the schools you mention that have new headteachers and, by the sound of it, new routines probably does account for the improvements. The fact that they have also introduced uniforms as well would suggest to me that part of the new routines include a no nonsense approach to having a certain amount of discipline and respect being demanded by the new headteachers.

I am a great believer that when the demand for discipline and respect is carried out in a fair and reasonable manner then most youngsters will respond to that.
If a school has a uniform or lays down some form of dress code then if that is fairly enforced then it will eventually become accepted.
Provided, that is, that kids aren’t made to feel like some sort of 1950s throw-back.

Now something for the youngsters to think about. Just for a moment, drop the ‘over my dead body’ routine and think of things that would be acceptable to you as a dress code or even a uniform if you wish. Use your initiative, it doesn’t have to be Blazers and Ties. Lets here some ideas!
OMG, he's setting us exam questions! Pass the paracetamol! :p

nightowl
31-Jan-06, 03:00
Thanks for your comments, Dr Szin.
Of course the wearing of uniform alone does not improve exam results, but I feel it is one of the more important aspects of the "new culture". At the end of the day if our young people could leave school with better qualifications, surely wearing uniform is a simple measure to implement as a starting point.
If, in even a small way that improves discipline then, hopefully, "bullying and truancy" will recede too. It has to start somewhere.
The thread about bullying is too scary!!!!

DW
31-Jan-06, 09:34
SNIP

If, in even a small way that improves discipline then, hopefully, "bullying and truancy" will recede too. It has to start somewhere.
The thread about bullying is too scary!!!!
" Good Morning dullards,
I am a nasty mean bully, I specialise in picking on the spotty swots who ask questions in class. I like to kick them as I go passed in the corridor. It is also great fun to sharpen a pencil and stick it in their bum in the queue at the tuck shop.
I love to shout out in class and stop the rest of the swotty creeps from working. Me and my mates pulled down a bannister in the High school at Christmas and we shut down a whole staircase for 4 weeks - chaos - Kool!

But wait, my mater has just come in with a lovely pair of grey flannels, white shirt, and bless me, a school tie. I just can't wait to put them on and show the chaps at school what a sweet gentle academic lad I really am.
Suddenly I see the point, I want to get a good job and be a really nice person. I must buy a school bag and throw away all that nasty dope. "

I DON'T THINK SO :lol:

squidge
31-Jan-06, 11:46
The uniform thing - if applied properly can help create a sense of community and identity. If pupils are proud of their school then they are more likely to behave and be more respectful and maybe - maybe - maybe get better results.

Making a uniform compulsory can be a first step in creating cohesion within a school - where pupils and staff stick together and work for the good of the school. There is far more wrong with Wich High School than simply the lack of uniform. I would hope that the new Rector is a forward thinking, strict, and charismatic leader with the ability to get pupils and parents on board and the tenacity to see things through. He/she will need to tackle the lack of discipline and the bulying head on and make absol;utely certain that the school has focus and direction.

DW
31-Jan-06, 12:18
Absolutely spot-on Squidge!

Saveman
31-Jan-06, 12:37
I'm all for the school uniform (though I accidently voted "No- I'm not a pupil" I'm easily confused sorry!) Mentally it can help pupils to switch into "learning mode" then when they get home and get changed they switch back to "play mode"

DW
31-Jan-06, 13:11
I'm all for the school uniform (though I accidently voted "No- I'm not a pupil" I'm easily confused sorry!) Mentally it can help pupils to switch into "learning mode" then when they get home and get changed they switch back to "play mode"

What about homework / study?

Do they get back into school uniform so that their brain is in the correct mode?

That argument either works all the time or not at all :lol:

Saveman
31-Jan-06, 13:14
What about homework / study?

Do they get back into school uniform so that their brain is in the correct mode?

That argument either works all the time or not at all :lol:

Well personally I did all my homework straight away when I came home. Then got changed. So long ago now....

jjc
31-Jan-06, 15:34
I’m not sure about school uniforms (and am just too lazy to read through the previous thread): on the one had, they remove the peer pressure on pupils to wear the latest and greatest clothing (hands up everybody who remembers Nike Pumps…) and I suppose that they might give some pupils an increased sense of school spirit (though I suspect that those same pupils had a sense of school spirit anyway); on the other hand there are still going to be pupils who are wearing last year’s uniforms (be they from older siblings or jumble sales) or who don’t have a spare blazer to wear on Wednesday if they spill their lunch on a Tuesday.

I guess that if I had to come down on one side of the fence or the other then I’d say that the advantages of compulsory school uniforms are probably outweighed by the disadvantages, but it isn’t really an issue I lose any sleep over.

As an aside, the reason that I haven’t (and won’t) vote in this poll is that it is an open poll. I find it slightly worrying that a person who claims to speak on behalf of the Scottish Youth Parliament didn’t opt for anonymous voting. I find it very worrying that a person who claims to speak on behalf of the Scottish Youth Parliament is openly trawling through the voting results to see which members of CCWS are teachers and what their personal opinion is toward compulsory school-uniforms.

DrSzin
31-Jan-06, 15:55
As an aside, the reason that I haven’t (and won’t) vote in this poll is that it is an open poll. I find it slightly worrying that a person who claims to speak on behalf of the Scottish Youth Parliament didn’t opt for anonymous voting. I find it very worrying that a person who claims to speak on behalf of the Scottish Youth Parliament is openly trawling through the voting results to see which members of CCWS are teachers and what their personal opinion is toward compulsory school-uniforms.I hadn't noticed that it was an open poll -- no wonder I didn't follow what Connie & Robin were on about previously. The default is that a poll is anonymous, so it was almost certainly a conscious decision to make this one open. Tut tut robin170491.

Move over Lib Dems -- it's scandal time at the SYP. Can you impeach an MSYP? :lol:

krieve
31-Jan-06, 15:59
If i am thinking as a parent i would want my kids to were a uniform it looks smart. I remember my brother wearing a blazer when he was at primary in Edinburgh then when we moved up here there was no uniform. I think the school should make it compulsory for they kids to wear a school uniform they should give them a choice on what the uniform looks like ie the colour put it to vote and if they refuse to where it detention lol

elaine
31-Jan-06, 21:44
Robin is quite right, Connie voted in the category
'Yes, I am a teacher / mos'

So it is reasonable for him to assume she is a teacher.!!!

I guess looking at the poll, we can assume you're a MOS too SweatyB? I would be really interested in your views on how to improve the situation if you think uniform is such a bad idea (btw, you did far too good an impression of a bully - I think you've done that before).

I don't think anyone who is voting for it thinks it's going solve all the problems but it's a very good start for lots of reasons! If the school has many of the "nearly retired, looking for an easy life" types, especially in the SMT (oh god I hope not!) then the school has an awful lot more to worry about than getting the kids to wear ties! If the new heedy is confronted with scunnered, jaded teachers who have probably been teaching there for donkeys and are counting down the days then he/she's doomed, DOOOOOOMED I TELL YOU!! muaaahhhahhhha (my evil laugh) Whoa, did I say all that out loud? Am I due a detention now? or lines?

"Keep demented ramblings to yourself"
"Keep demented ramblings to yourself"
etc

No but seriously, the school is in trouble if the staff and parents are going to be uncooperative about ANY of the rules they try to enforce. They have to be united about everything or else the kids will roooool the skoooool! Oh, wait a minute......they already do! All I can say is "Bring on the new Heedy" and Good luck to you!

DW
31-Jan-06, 21:51
I guess looking at the poll, we can assume you're a MOS too SweatyB?
SNIP

If the new heedy is confronted with scunnered, jaded teachers who have probably been teaching there for donkeys and are counting down the days
SNIP
Of course I could have just made the same mistake as Connie [lol]

On the other hand I am reliably informed that the staff in whs are ready and able to go toe to toe with the wasters as long as they get effective backing and robust leadership.

elaine
31-Jan-06, 21:53
Fair enough....

nightowl
31-Jan-06, 21:56
I guess time will tell, eh?

Rheghead
31-Jan-06, 22:00
Uniforms are ok until the school starts to take a blind eye at pupil improvisations to it e.g. a small tie knot or a massive knot, white socks, norabatty socks or the quasi-Islamic hoodie(sorry but I forgot the name for it).

I say all or nothing, if a school is to enforce a uniform then it should be uniform and the parents and kids should sign an agreement to maintain it so.

JAWS
31-Jan-06, 22:37
Oh Rheghead, you would have to mention Socks! Painful memories.
School Uniform - Grey Socks.
So there I was, totally oblivious, minding my own business as usual. What I should have been doing was paying a little more attention to what was going on at the front of the class, but there were usually better things to think about than that.

I had completely forgot when I got ready in the morning that one of the periods was Chemistry, in the Chemistry Demonstration Lab which was very old fashioned with benches rising in tiers so pupils at the back could see.
There I was, right on the back row, three levels up, minding my own business, as I said before.

"BOY! Yes, you boy!" The Head took us for that period and I recognised the tone in his voice and it said trouble for somebody. Quick glance to see who was for it. Hell, he's looking at me. "What are those, Boy? Do you intent to go playing golf in Plus Fours, Boy?" (Plus Fours are those baggy knee breeches the golfers used to wear five hundred years ago, kids)

Oops! and there are my feet, right in line with his eye level, and he's staring at my socks. The socks with the bright yellow, white and black two inch (sorry, five centimetre) squares which were staring insolently straight back at him.
"My office at the end of the period, boy!"

Painful, very painful indeed! His name was Moody and he could live up to it! It paid to wear very thick trousers at times. :(

DW
31-Jan-06, 23:54
SNIP

Painful, very painful indeed! His name was Moody and he could live up to it! It paid to wear very thick trousers at times. :(

Ah the good old days; when teachers could administer a near-fatal beating without any sign of a social worker...........:lol:

grantyg
31-Jan-06, 23:59
Hang on big mistake let the kids vote whether they want it?????

That is like the fact in primary schools you have chips and fatty food and a healthy option - there shouldn`t be the option!
The SMT (senior management team) need to take control and make the decision.

I was reminded today that all kids wear uniform even in non uniform schools!
Pupils in wick high I`m sure have a dress code for PE - the incident that made me realise this was one of my pupils saying they got a lunchtime detention for "not having approrpriate footwear" for basketball.

The deep official reason for this is "Risk Assesment"
Onto my soap box - an ideal risk assesment is

1 - Identify the Hazard (not wearing approrpriate footwear)

2 - Asses the degree of risk (pupil could slip, trip or fall)

3 - Implement control Measures (remove the risk change of footwear!)

4 - Reveiw Control Measures (ensure that approrpriate footwear is worn in future)

5 - Establish Working Practise/Code of conduct (Add in to exsisting school rule/written reminder to parents)

So for PE wearing the prescribed kit is important does this not count on a health and safety point of veiw for other lessons i.e Design and technology, science and general lessons if a risk assesment is in place approrpriate clothing is a part of that especially with the dangers involved in non approrpriate clothing.
By wearing school uniform this ensures that pupils are not wearing flammible materials, long dangly sleeves or even baseball caps that can obscure view!
If the school has a risk assesment this should be a part of it and I just hope that by not having a prescribed uniform we don`t become like the US where sueing is rife - imagine a pupil wearing sports clothing gets severly burnt in a science class, the first question that will come up is - What was he wearing? Was it recommended by the school? Did the school advise and implement approrpriate clothing? Taking into consideration the inherant dangers of certain lessons!
Maybe the PE teachers have it right - they should continue that example to other lessons.

So no Robin the pupils shouldn`t get to choose!
Grant leaves his soap box

nightowl
01-Feb-06, 01:37
Ah the good old days; when teachers could administer a near-fatal beating without any sign of a social worker...........:lol:

Unfortunatly, Sweaty, these beatings remain in the minds of the little victims for ever - ask my thirtysomething year old son!! Now LOL

connieb19
01-Feb-06, 09:00
Unfortunatly, Sweaty, these beatings remain in the minds of the little victims for ever - ask my thirtysomething year old son!! Now LOLif children would do as they're told they shouldn't need a beating. I agree with granty, the pupils shouldn't have the choice of whether they want the uniform or not, they should be told and thats that...
That's the reason most of them are so out of control....i hate to see what they'll be like when they leave school..picky about what job they want because they don't like the uniform.. A good foot up the backside is what's needed...

DW
01-Feb-06, 09:23
Unfortunatly, Sweaty, these beatings remain in the minds of the little victims for ever - ask my thirtysomething year old son!! Now LOL

Irony is a best known as a figure of speech (more precisely called verbal irony) in which there is a gap or incongruity between what a speaker or a writer says, and what is understood. All the different senses of irony, however, revolve around the notion of incongruity, or a gap between our understanding and what actually happens. For instance, dramatic irony occurs when a character onstage is ignorant, but the audience watching knows his or her eventual fate, as in Sophocles' play Oedipus the King. Socratic irony, the oldest form, takes place when someone pretends to be foolish or ignorant, but is not. Cosmic irony is a sharp incongruity between our expectations of things and what actually occurs, as if the universe were mocking us. :confused

nightowl
01-Feb-06, 11:04
Irony is a best known as a figure of speech (more precisely called verbal irony) in which there is a gap or incongruity between what a speaker or a writer says, and what is understood. All the different senses of irony, however, revolve around the notion of incongruity, or a gap between our understanding and what actually happens. For instance, dramatic irony occurs when a character onstage is ignorant, but the audience watching knows his or her eventual fate, as in Sophocles' play Oedipus the King. Socratic irony, the oldest form, takes place when someone pretends to be foolish or ignorant, but is not. Cosmic irony is a sharp incongruity between our expectations of things and what actually occurs, as if the universe were mocking us. :confused

Irony - I don't think so. Good luck WHS.....

nightowl
01-Feb-06, 15:36
Irony is a best known as a figure of speech (more precisely called verbal irony) in which there is a gap or incongruity between what a speaker or a writer says, and what is understood. All the different senses of irony, however, revolve around the notion of incongruity, or a gap between our understanding and what actually happens. For instance, dramatic irony occurs when a character onstage is ignorant, but the audience watching knows his or her eventual fate, as in Sophocles' play Oedipus the King. Socratic irony, the oldest form, takes place when someone pretends to be foolish or ignorant, but is not. Cosmic irony is a sharp incongruity between our expectations of things and what actually occurs, as if the universe were mocking us.
Ironic isn't it? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony)

DW
01-Feb-06, 16:32
Ironic isn't it? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony)

Great, someone else who can google! No mystery there then.

grantyg
01-Feb-06, 19:50
Great, someone else who can google! No mystery there then.
Yep me to but I do google images!
This is what came up for sweaty betty and boy thats just how I imagined you!:grin:

http://www.dustyblues.com/images/slideshow2005/satpgh2005/images/Sweaty%20BettyB2.jpg

DW
01-Feb-06, 20:45
Why are you interested in such a skinny broad?

You're messin' with a beegwifey :lol:

grantyg
03-Feb-06, 18:55
strange I thought that was a guy!

Blast!
11-Feb-06, 17:56
Seriously, I really can't see the problem with school uniform. Even while in school, I wasn't opposed, it would have made no difference to me what so ever.

I am however dead against school implementing 'cool' school uniform. I read somewhere that black hoodies were to be produced with a small, inconspicuous WHS logo on them. Come on people! A school uniform is about making pupils look smart and presentable, a black hoodies isn't going to acomplish this. Something lighter, with a little style and a deffinative school logo on it would be much better.

I get to see a broad range of school uniform from looking through freinds yearbook's at Uni, it was deffinately something i'd go for, and they all had a sense of pride with their school - something I know a few people didn't have about THS. A school uniform helps promote this as whenever you're wearing your uniform, you're representing your school in a sense.

I may come across as sounding like a dictator but I would make the uniform compulsory and the student should just put up or shut up. They'll get used to it eventually.

It's only a uniform - no big deal!

bagpuss
19-Feb-06, 23:38
Actually, the school uniform ties in with the advent of the supermarkets. Both Tesco and Asda do good cheap school uniform staple items- white shirts, grey jumpers etc. Not to mention the lace up black regulation shoes. Parents will save a fortune and the kids can keep their designer gear for after school and weekends.

willowbankbear
20-Feb-06, 17:32
Yep me to but I do google images!
This is what came up for sweaty betty and boy thats just how I imagined you!:grin:

http://www.dustyblues.com/images/slideshow2005/satpgh2005/images/Sweaty%20BettyB2.jpg

I thought S.Betty wouldve been bustier with white permed (bingo lady style) heid & 10 years older

cuddlepop
20-Feb-06, 19:36
Sweaty,s got a look a like living breathing and working for social work in Portree,either that or she.s leading a double life.:grin:
Has Wick high school decided on a uniform yet or is it still up for debate:confused:

connieb19
20-Feb-06, 19:42
Sweaty,s got a look a like living breathing and working for social work in Portree,either that or she.s leading a double life.:grin:
Has Wick high school decided on a uniform yet or is it still up for debate:confused:Now cuddlepop...thats not a very nice comment!! :roll:

cuddlepop
20-Feb-06, 19:46
Trying to be funny....not.:p

connieb19
20-Feb-06, 19:58
Trying to be funny....not.:pYou'll need to try a bit harder than that..not...[lol] [lol] [lol]

DW
20-Feb-06, 23:19
Greetings boys and girls and mums and dads; my (notsowee) spy tells me that letters are coming home via the kids from Wick High this week outlining the propsed uniform.
Now, all you fowk who have been expressing a desire to buy uniforms for your kiddies have that chance.
And dinnae start bleeting on about " well no-one else will do it".

If you really support it, you will buy it and make yer wee darlings wear it. And when they get sent home for not wearing it you will tan their wee bums [lol]

ice box
26-Feb-06, 17:46
Like i said before in a thread like this one the pupils should be allowed to wear what the feel comfortable in and forced to wear what the goverment want we don't tell the teachers and staff what to wear so why should pupil be told what to wear and what not to wear .

LENSMAN
26-Feb-06, 18:04
I will only be buying and making them wear the uniform when it is made compulsary.