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landmarker
23-Jan-06, 20:54
Our local BBC north-west have a programme on about nip and tuck surgery.
Undergoing the surgeons knife to enhance ones appearance.

A youngish woman has just been on - her boyfriend gave ger £3,500 as a birthday present 'to get bigger boobs'. Instead of telling him to stick the money where the sun doesn't shine and finding a new boyfriend she went along with his wishes, only for it all to end in tears when the surgery went wrong.

Is society obsessed with personal appearance?
Would you undergo plastic surgery merely for cosmetic reasons?

I admit I have big ears. They were much bigger as a kid because my head was smaller - the ears were the same size as they are now. I took some taunting and yes, as a nipper aged about six it sometimes made me cry. Perhaps this is why I now have a hide like a rhinoceros. I wouldn't change a thing about my appearance to be honest - even though my lugs are still quite big. I might resemble the F.A. Cup, or a taxi with its doors open but hey!! I'm told its a sign of intelligence. <he said grasping at straws>

Seriously, is plastic surgery becoming too much a tool of the shallow to sustain their quest for eternal youth or the elusive body beautiful?

Jeid
23-Jan-06, 23:45
If I could swear on here, you'd understand how much I really despise plastic surgery. People are over obsessed with appearance and how they appear to others.

Everyone has something nice about them and although the person they might want to realise their beauty doesn't, I'm certain somebody else will.

I don't like the idea of cosmetic enhancement, its like you're being cheated out of the real person.

Whitewater
24-Jan-06, 00:20
I'm not in agreement with plastic surgery either although my nose is not the best. I remember when we were only married for a few years my wife shouted "Come through quickly, there is a guy from Orkney on the telly with the same nose as you",(well not the same nose but one similar) so I rushed through and sure enough it was my first cousin who was a local councilor in Kirkwall at the time.
I'm proud of my nose, it's a family trait, we can recognise each other (from miles away) instantly even though we hav'nt met for years.

pedromcgrory
24-Jan-06, 01:34
its good if u want to end up like pete burns,

ice box
24-Jan-06, 01:38
its good if u want to end up like pete burns,
Check oot the lips on him lol

paris
24-Jan-06, 01:54
After 4 kids and a hysterectomy leaving a horrid scar , yes i would have plastic surgery other than that ( my belly) I'm happy about myself. My x daughter in law had a boob job last year and is very pleased with it, i also have another friend who's having a nose job tomorrow, tummy tuck and boob job. its all down to money and if i had it, i definitely would go through with a tummy tuck .

rich62_uk
24-Jan-06, 09:58
After 4 kids and a hysterectomy leaving a horrid scar , yes i would have plastic surgery other than that ( my belly) I'm happy about myself. My x daughter in law had a boob job last year and is very pleased with it, i also have another friend who's having a nose job tomorrow, tummy tuck and boob job. its all down to money and if i had it, i definitely would go through with a tummy tuck .

After X amount of children ........ show me the money. I hate the way I look now, love the kids albeit face lift, boobs, tummy, bum, in fact if they had a machine you could go in and have the lot done in one go ........ I would be the first. Trish.

Thinking about it there was a few things I would of had done before the children.

angela5
24-Jan-06, 10:30
I'm not against plastic surgery if the bank balance stretches far enough then go for it..personaly i would not have it done..i hate pain:eyes

krieve
24-Jan-06, 10:38
My friend had a boob reduction Because her big boobs hurt her back .

JAWS
24-Jan-06, 10:45
Come on paris a rich62 be more confident and assertive, take my attitude.
"This is MY appearance and if you don't like it than clear off and do it now!"

I can and do sympathise very much were people have a visible scar or disfiguration which becomes the absolute centre of attraction and causes people to stare.
A person in that position should be able to have that situation remedied just as soon as they wish.

But then again, that's possibly because I'm male and, as normal, don't give a tinker's cuss about my appearance.
The scruffy, down at heel, unkempt look has taken years to perfect and I'm quite proud of my achievement in doing so.
Well, everybody should be proud of their greatest success. :lol:

JAWS
24-Jan-06, 10:49
My friend had a boob reduction Because her big boobs hurt her back .
Oh dear krieve, I really did have to think about that comment! :confused

I think I've got the right idea now though.

scotsboy
24-Jan-06, 10:51
All I see is very talented surgeons wasting effort on vain people. I am not against plastic surgery per se, but think it should only be used for those who really require it i.e. burns victims, those disfigured in some form of accident or those born with significant deformities.
I would ban cosmetic surgery.

krieve
24-Jan-06, 10:59
Oh dear krieve, I really did have to think about that comment! :confused

I think I've got the right idea now though.
Ok she went for a breast reduction because she is very small and and it looked out of proportion with her body size also because she was getting alot of pain in her back everyday .

JAWS
24-Jan-06, 11:11
Ok she went for a breast reduction because she is very small and and it looked out of proportion with her body size also because she was getting alot of pain in her back everyday .
Sorry krieve, I am just suffering from a severe case of Nit-pickers Syndrome.
The specialist warned me that it can be an irreversible condition but I'm hoping he's wrong.

Saveman
24-Jan-06, 12:02
Some people seem over the moon with the results, others are sorry they shelled out the cash just for a surgeon to disfigure them even further.

Not something I'd go for, nor encourage anyone to go for personally. It's whats inside that matters anyway isn't it?

paris
24-Jan-06, 12:10
After X amount of children ........ show me the money. I hate the way I look now, love the kids albeit face lift, boobs, tummy, bum, in fact if they had a machine you could go in and have the lot done in one go ........ I would be the first. Trish.

Thinking about it there was a few things I would of had done before the children.

Sorry Trish but I would be at the front of the line, Id do you a deal, who ever wins the lottery first pays for the other to have it all done OK LOL

rich62_uk
24-Jan-06, 12:19
Sorry Trish but I would be at the front of the line, Id do you a deal, who ever wins the lottery first pays for the other to have it all done OK LOL

You got yourself a deal lmao .... Trish.:lol:

Lucy
24-Jan-06, 14:11
I had a nose job done when i was about 14 for medical reasons. Broken nose when i was 8 and couldn'd breath properly. i had to wait until i had stopped growing b4 they would do the job. I didn't change the way my nose looked just got bones replaced. Even yet my husband jokes that i had better not go too near the fire incase it melts ha ha.

Sorry but i wouln't get it done for vanity. just look at the mess Michael Jacksons face is. I think you really have to prioritise this. if you have so much money to spare i'm sure i could think of a better cause than plastic surgery.

katarina
24-Jan-06, 15:12
I watched a program where a nice looking woman with a very poor self image went in for a plastic make over. The woman was obviously suffering from depression, and although she was delighted with the results initially and when the camera was on her, I would bet anything that before long she would be finding other reasons to despise herself. The woman needed councilling, not a make over!
And would I do it? mmmm. Don't know, but since I'm never likely to afford it, the problem won't arise. Anyway - if I can help it - I don't do pain!

porshiepoo
24-Jan-06, 16:10
Move over Paris, I'd beat you to the front of the queue!
If I was brave enough I'd have surgery tomorrow - maybe some of you would say that I would be brave enough if I really wanted it but there you go.

I'd have liposuction for the after kids jelly belly, I'd have a boob job (I had kids very young and didn't get long enough with nice pert boobs. lol), I'd have a brow lift and I'd have too much else to mention.
The only thing I wouldn't have is a nose or lip job cos mine are fine as they are!

I guess some people could say it's all to do with vanity, but alot of it is also self esteem. It may be a rather drastic action to take to some of you but I'd love to go back to feeling comfortable in my own skin, and I don't see a problem with it. Although some have taken it too extremes.

paris
24-Jan-06, 16:13
Ok porshie, you can join our club ( trish and mine lottery club )

porshiepoo
24-Jan-06, 16:20
You're on! lol.

Better still, we should apply to extreme makeovers and get it all done free! lol.

In all seriousness though, I suppose none of us actually really need surgery do we??
Our lives aren't in danger without it, we've managed this far with the way we look, perhaps we should re-consider?????
Hahahahahahahahaha, yeah right!

Julia
24-Jan-06, 16:34
Surgeons can perform wonders these days with reconstructive and plastic surgery.

It's easy for the majority to say it's wrong and I wouldn't have it etc.. but if you were so unhappy with a particular part of your body that was not quite 'normal' enough for society then I say go for it.

As for having it done for the whims of vanity... more money than sense springs to mind!

Need is greater than want!

paris
24-Jan-06, 18:57
You're on! lol.

Better still, we should apply to extreme makeovers and get it all done free! lol.

In all seriousness though, I suppose none of us actually really need surgery do we??
Our lives aren't in danger without it, we've managed this far with the way we look, perhaps we should re-consider?????
Hahahahahahahahaha, yeah right!

Im up for that, free as well , so there is a god after all !

JAWS
24-Jan-06, 19:07
Surgeons can perform wonders these days with reconstructive and plastic surgery.
They are improving, but they're still not good enough to make me pass for human! :p

landmarker
24-Jan-06, 19:57
I didn't buy a decent second hand car once because the salesman was seventy odd and had dyed his hair jet black. It struck me as a dishonest thing to do.

People who look truly strange, or who have had accidents obviously deserve all the help they can get but to undergo the knife just to satisfy cosmetic vanity smacks of a certain disingenuous streak to me.

I suppose I could afford some plastic surgery but I'd rather save the money for a move north, or another car or something. Even a rainy day.

I dont give a monkeys how others see me. If they dont like the makings they can avert their gaze lol. I see myself as an ageing fifty odd year old bloke with assorted wrinkles, imperfections and sags. My wife calls it character. She seems to like it.

I wouldn't dream of asking her to have anything changed - not that she needs it anyway - I'd probably get short shrift or a left hook.

Some people need to get a life & buck up their self-esteem.

katarina
24-Jan-06, 20:02
The thing is, no one sees anything wrong with buying make up or getting a fancy hairdo, or buying fashionable clothes. Plastic surgery to me is just an extention of those. It all comes from vanity, and if you can afford it and can stand the pain, and want to take the chance that it won't go wrong - then why not? Nothing wrong with wanting to look your best.

rich62_uk
24-Jan-06, 20:33
Some people need to get a life & buck up their self-esteem.

Some people have issues with the way they look, some have mental health issues that make it hard for them to see that other people have the right to view the world in their own way. I see myself as lucky enough to be in the former which can be remedied by a short course of surgery rather than the latter who require a very long course of therapy......Trish.

Alice in Blunderland
24-Jan-06, 21:03
I have to agree with Porshiepoo Paris and Trish,if I had the cash id be in the queue with them.Its what each individual is happy with, if we are willing to take the risk we are willing to take the consequences.Having had my body pushed pulled and stretched in every way possible by my darling children during pregnancy along with anasty scar from a c/section because one of them was so happy she refused to come out I dont see the harm in a good reputable surgeon putting right whats wrong.Yes there are risks but that comes with every thing in life.So girls if I win the lottery you are all welcome to join me and a bottle of wine at the nearest clinic for a consultation.

rich62_uk
24-Jan-06, 21:06
So girls if I win the lottery you are all welcome to join me and a bottle of wine at the nearest clinic for a consultation.

Its only fair if we go half each I will bring the wine lol.... Trish

connieb19
24-Jan-06, 21:12
I must say i agree here too.. I'd have it done in a shot..
We can only but dream, eh :D

Alice in Blunderland
24-Jan-06, 21:21
:D Never mind girls one day.... I had better see you all in the lottery queue this weekend I will have to start buying a ticket which I havent done in years....

landmarker
24-Jan-06, 21:56
Some people have issues with the way they look, some have mental health issues that make it hard for them to see that other people have the right to view the world in their own way. I see myself as lucky enough to be in the former which can be remedied by a short course of surgery rather than the latter who require a very long course of therapy......Trish.

I get the message. Succinctly and sweetly put.

But.... lucky to have 'issues' with the way you look? We can't all be perfect & I've already mentioned that I'm far from that.

Either category could be the result of mis-interpretation. The former perhaps on a quest for eternal youth, or having fallen for the popular myth that appearance is everything.

The latter might just be opinionated wordmongers who like an argument.

Surgery or therapy? I consider the latter less drastic & it's freely available.