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dortmunder
29-Oct-08, 19:25
I was doing a crossword but can't yet work out how some of the clues lead to the answers. Can anyone tell me why:
'dragnet' is the answer to 'hunt for spiny fish without using oxygen'
'catty' is the answer to 'spiteful, but friendly when husband comes in'
'at rest' is the answer to 'still rates fluctuate close to limit'
'event' is the answer to '17 not seen around item in sports programme' (clue 17 was 'African ruminants ignore worker and run away' (antelope minus ant = elope)).
Thanks in advance
Aaldtimer
29-Oct-08, 20:43
Dragonet is the name of a spiny fish, remove the O for oxygen.
Chatty is friendly, remove the H for husband and it becomes catty.
At rest is an anagram of rates and the T from the end of limit.
S/event/een...remove the seen from round the Event.
Don't think the antelope is any thing to do with it.:)
Dragonet is a wee fish. take away O for oxygen
Blimey little wonder I have never been able to get my tiny brain around cryptic clues! :confused
dortmunder
30-Oct-08, 08:31
Thanks all, esp Aaldtimer. I still reckon there's no logical way of taking the T from 'limit' though.
I can't believe I didn't see s(event)een...
Aaldtimer
30-Oct-08, 14:46
Thanks all, esp Aaldtimer. I still reckon there's no logical way of taking the T from 'limit' though.
I can't believe I didn't see s(event)een...
Ah, that's why they used the 17 instead of the word!:D
dortmunder
03-Nov-08, 12:05
Here's another that's bugging me. "Pick up bucket; it used to be suitable". Why is the answer 'meet'? Bucket (with rain) = teem, reverse it for meet perhaps but not sure about suitable ...
meet as in proper or appropriate.......old fashioned word
Aaldtimer
03-Nov-08, 15:25
"Teem" as in bucketing with rain.:)
dortmunder
10-Nov-08, 14:36
Now then - here are a few more that are annoying me...
"I reported obstruction in small hole" = eyelet. Where is 'let' to be found in the clue?
"Teacher's European coin of old gold" = educator. 'e' 'ducat' fine, but what leads us to the 'or'?
"Collect beggar?". I'm dying to know why the answer is 'prayer'...
Many thanks
helenwyler
10-Nov-08, 15:31
Now then - here are a few more that are annoying me...
"I reported obstruction in small hole" = eyelet. Where is 'let' to be found in the clue?
"Teacher's European coin of old gold" = educator. 'e' 'ducat' fine, but what leads us to the 'or'?
"Collect beggar?". I'm dying to know why the answer is 'prayer'...
Many thanks
I'll have a go, Dortmunder :D
'let' can mean obstruction, as in "without let or hindrance"
'or' is Latin, French and Heraldic term for gold.
a 'collect' is a short Church prayer.
brokencross
10-Nov-08, 23:50
There was rather a good programme on TV tonight on BBC4 "Timeshift: How To Solve a Cryptic Crossword"
It gave the various "types" of cryptic clues and what to look out for within the clue itself.
There were some famous crossword compilers contributing to the show and giving the tricks of their trade. Blooming obvious AFTER they explain the logic.
They say you don't need a special brain, just a love of words and word play. Here is the BBC iPlayer Link for the show (it will probably be repeated on the box as well)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fh2bh
try www.crosswordsolver (http://www.crosswordsolver) If you only have a few letters it will help, and andy'sanagrams is great also
Aaldtimer
11-Nov-08, 03:45
try www.crosswordsolver (http://www.crosswordsolver) If you only have a few letters it will help, and andy'sanagrams is great also
It kinda defeats the purpose though doesn't it? Spoils the fun of the exercise!:~(
dortmunder
11-Nov-08, 15:40
Thanks all, esp helenwyler for the last set of explanations (though I'm still unclear on 'beggar' in the 'collect' clue...). Here are a few more:
"In this play child would make money in old Athens". 'play' = 'drama' (the answer) but I can't see the logic in the rest of the clue.
"Big cat in small part of pound" - 'ounce'. Pounds and ounces obviously but what's with the big cat?
"Princess's attendant receives a royal slight" = 'disparage'. Again, I can't see the cryptic side of the clue.
"Massage king's head and queen's middle? Yes." = 'knead'. Why?
Cheers.
Hey have I worked one out? Well kinda - gonna give it my best shot and no laughing! Old Greek money - drachma - ch - child - take away = drama?
Aaldtimer
11-Nov-08, 17:57
Aye, you have it Wifie!
An ounce is a kind of big cat.
Presume the princess is Di...Di's parage? Parage I'm not familiar with.
K for King + letters of "and" and one "e" from the middle of Queen.;)
Di,s page receives AR -disparage
There was rather a good programme on TV tonight on BBC4 "Timeshift: How To Solve a Cryptic Crossword"
It gave the various "types" of cryptic clues and what to look out for within the clue itself.
There were some famous crossword compilers contributing to the show and giving the tricks of their trade. Blooming obvious AFTER they explain the logic.
They say you don't need a special brain, just a love of words and word play. Here is the BBC iPlayer Link for the show (it will probably be repeated on the box as well)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fh2bhWhen you set the criteria then it can be simple.
When you set the criteria then it can be simple.
Haven't seen the programme but from what I can work out here it seems you have to "get" the compiler as well as the clues! :eek:
brokencross
12-Nov-08, 08:16
Haven't seen the programme but from what I can work out here it seems you have to "get" the compiler as well as the clues! :eek:
.....Exactly
dortmunder
12-Nov-08, 20:26
Aye, different compilers have their own little ways. Some more devilish than others...
Anyone care to enlighten me on how the following clues lead to the answers?
"Here in house chaps do bit, rattled at times?" = 'despatch box'. Despatch seems to be from an anagram of 'chaps' and something else but what, I don't know. (Collection boxes get rattled.)
"Hindu mystic was baffled by third note" = 'swami' Looks like another anagram based on 'was' but what's the 'third note' business?
These 2 clues were consecutive:
"Elizabeth's favourite county..."
"...in Wales i.e. at its fullest extent" = 'Essex' and 'widest'. Why is Elizabeth's favourite county Essex? Again, 'widest' must be an anagram - 'w', 'ie' but where does the 'dst' come from?
I hope you're all enjoying this nonsense...
Aaldtimer
13-Nov-08, 04:05
..."Here in house chaps do bit, rattled at times?" ..= angaram, Dispatch bo... +"x", i.e. cross,angry.
Swami = anagram of "was" + Third note...Doh, Ray, Mi.
Elizabeth 1 had the Earl of Essex as a favourite suitor I think.
not sure about the last one...a wee bit confusing!
brokencross
13-Nov-08, 09:31
Aye, different compilers have their own little ways. Some more devilish than others...
Anyone care to enlighten me on how the following clues lead to the answers?
"Here in house chaps do bit, rattled at times?" = 'despatch box'.
Here In house (Houses of Parliament- here, here, and the despatch box where they stand to make speech)
Here in house chaps do bit, rattled at times?" = 'despatch box'
Dispatch box is in HOUSE of Commons : rest is anagram of 'chaps do bit' ('rattled' being code for anagram) + x (code for 'times', or multiplication)
SORTED!!
dortmunder
13-Nov-08, 14:19
Once more, my thanks to all. Now then, 2 more:
"e.g. Daily Mail to contend with having unknown TV system?" = 'pay per view'. How do we get the 'view' out of that?
"Left east German bewildered" = 'lost'. Eh???
And finally. One of my favourite clues has always been "Quickly with that double helping of lamb (4,4)." I daresay you'll all get it no bother...
LOL! The last one must be too easy - chop chop?
percy toboggan
13-Nov-08, 18:22
My Dad was great at cryptic crosswords...I'm not.
Because: my mind doesn't seem to work laterally very often...I'm probably not as smart as he was...and life is too short...I love the general knowledge ones and the simple word based clues in 'quickword' and the like.
It's a day for admissions and yes, I'm only five foot ten! ( a two inch improvement on the previous generation though - but I'd rather have his talent for fixing things)
dortmunder
13-Nov-08, 20:14
chop chop?
That's right. Can you get this one (another old classic): "gegs (9,4)"
Aaldtimer
13-Nov-08, 20:19
That's right. Can you get this one (another old classic): "gegs (9,4)"
Scrambled eggs!:)
Scrambled eggs!:)
TY Aaldtimer - I was sittin here lookin like this > :confused
dortmunder
13-Nov-08, 20:25
Are you going to take a look at post 26 Aaldtimer?
Aaldtimer
13-Nov-08, 20:31
Are you going to take a look at post 26 Aaldtimer?
Best guess...Dailly Mail = paper, the y= unknown (as in Algebra) inserted .
To contend can mean to "have a view" on a subject I suppose.
Isn't "ost" German for east? Add to L = lost.
For your entertainment, how about this from the Telegraph, c30 yrs ago!
H I J K L M N O :cool:
dortmunder
13-Nov-08, 20:38
Water. Had to use t'internet though...
to contend with = vie w(ith)?!!
Aaldtimer
13-Nov-08, 20:50
Water. Had to use t'internet though...
BLIDDY CHEAT![evil]
OK, how about this from the Weekend xword around the same era!
"When the key is turned, it appears well-oiled."
And a wee help... "-A--I-E" . :cool:
Aaldtimer
14-Nov-08, 04:15
Aha! Cannae Google that one eh?
brokencross
14-Nov-08, 08:04
BLIDDY CHEAT![evil]
OK, how about this from the Weekend xword around the same era!
"When the key is turned, it appears well-oiled."
And a wee help... "-A--I-E" . :cool:
No cheating, could it be that famous Scot - MacHine
dortmunder
14-Nov-08, 14:14
Nope, can't work that one out. If it IS machine, how so?
Some others I'd welcome elucidation of...
"Finish off puree, also known as Greek dish" = 'moussaka'. Where's the 'mouss'?
"Squashed tomato's cold for old moggie" - 'tomcat'. 'tom' is easy but I'm not sure about the whole.
Cheers all.
"Finish off puree, also known as Greek dish" = 'moussaka'. Where's the 'mouss'?
Cheers all.
'puree' = 'mousse' I'd say...knock off the 'e' and add the 'aka'....
Aaldtimer
14-Nov-08, 15:40
No cheating, could it be that famous Scot - MacHine
OK, I'll give a wee hint.
Think about opening a flat rectangular tin. ;)
Yay - sardine! Needed the clue tho :(
Aaldtimer
14-Nov-08, 15:57
Weel done wifie! :)
I think one of the cleverest cryptic clues ever!
I had the rest of the puzzle done in 20 minutes but that last one took me hours to figure out.
Got any more - I am liking this thread! :)
dortmunder
18-Nov-08, 20:19
Alright then, some more of those clues whose answers I just don't fully understand. Explanations welcomed...
"What lion does in rare rows?" = 'roars'. Obviously, 'roars' is taken from the letters of 'rare rows' but there should be some kind of logic to it. I can't see any.
"Yellow stuff found in plush, chaotic old city" = 'sulphur'. The anagram of plush is obvious but what's 'old city' to do with 'ur'?
"We are happy with 10 on January 1st" = 'new year'. Is this an anagram of 'we are' + NY? What's the logic?
There was an ancient city called Ur, I think it may have been mentioned in the bible
Aaldtimer
18-Nov-08, 21:01
There was an ancient city called Ur, I think it may have been mentioned in the bible
Spot on Dom!
"r" + rare, + "oars" = rows.
Can't make head nor tail of the last one! Was there another clue No.10 perhaps? [disgust]
dortmunder
19-Nov-08, 15:43
Possibly, but I've chucked the puzzle away now. A new one though:
"Good eater uses a tart taken from new Manchester restaurant" = 'trencherman'. Anagrammatical, obviously, but I can't see exactly how...
Aaldtimer
19-Nov-08, 17:20
"Good eater uses a tart taken from new Manchester restaurant" = 'trencherman'. Anagrammatical, obviously, but I can't see exactly how...[/quote]
If you take away the letters of "uses a tart" from "Manchester restaurant" you're left with the letters for "trencherman". :cool:
dortmunder
19-Nov-08, 20:59
You're some man! Thanks.
dortmunder
21-Nov-08, 14:58
Can anyone make sense of the logic behind these clues?
"Hinder progress of current MP and cut short ex-PM" = 'impede'
"Fully bank on it returning after short gap" = 'entirely'. (As far as I can see the 'en' part is 'short gap' but I don't make the connection.)
Aaldtimer
21-Nov-08, 15:55
"I" is the SI symbol for electric current + MP + ede (Shortened Eden, ex Prime Minister).
"en" is a unit of measurement in Printing parlance.[disgust]
dortmunder
21-Nov-08, 16:25
Now that IS obscure. It's not you been setting these damn puzzles by any chance??
Aaldtimer
21-Nov-08, 17:06
Nah, wisnae me... a big boy did it...and ran awa'!:D
dortmunder
21-Nov-08, 20:58
Heh heh.. Now then, this is from last week's Groat and has me puzzled:
"Cause blisters by taking off from platform" = 'scald'. ??
Heh heh.. Now then, this is from last week's Groat and has me puzzled:
"Cause blisters by taking off from platform" = 'scald'. ??
Maybe platform = scaffold. Take away 'off' = 'scald'.....& therefore cause blisters. :)
dortmunder
24-Nov-08, 14:58
Thanks Angela, that's spot on. One more where I just can't see exactly how the answer is contained within the clue:
"It's sung finally in dreadful circumstances" - 'dirge'.
Aaldtimer
24-Nov-08, 15:07
Take the last letter of "sung" and insert it in "dir(g)e".[disgust]
Take the last letter of "sung" and insert it in "dir(g)e".
lol Aaldtimer, you beat me to that one! I'd got as far as 'dire' but was still floundering about with that 'g'...... :confused :o
I'm blaming the cold weather on freezing what brains I have.....:lol:
dortmunder
25-Nov-08, 14:28
Ready for more?
"State republicans over working in South Africa" = 'Arizona'. I sense acronyms at play here but just can't fathom the logic.
"Iron bar pulled up a lid" = 'fedora'. Fedora/hat/lid but 'iron bar'??
"Dull green eggs brought up to a director in firm" = 'avocado'. Got the eggs (avo/ova) but can't see the director in firm...
Old satirical Writer's African migrants?
Aaldtimer
25-Nov-08, 15:01
Ready for more?
"State republicans over working in South Africa" = 'Arizona'. I sense acronyms at play here but just can't fathom the logic.
"Iron bar pulled up a lid" = 'fedora'. Fedora/hat/lid but 'iron bar'??
"Dull green eggs brought up to a director in firm" = 'avocado'. Got the eggs (avo/ova) but can't see the director in firm...
IRA reversed + zona....think you may be right about the acronym, but can't find it anywhere.
Fe (chemical symbol for iron) + a rod (reversed).
a + d for director within co for company. [disgust]
Aaldtimer
25-Nov-08, 15:03
Old satirical Writer's African migrants?
How many letters TBH? Got any to go on with? :)
helenwyler
25-Nov-08, 15:23
Old satirical Writer's African migrants?
Is it swifts? :confused
helenwyler
26-Nov-08, 13:42
Old satirical Writer's African migrants?
Are you going to tell us the answer TBH? :)
Swifts?
Jonathan Swift = old satirical writer
swifts = African migrants
How many letters TBH? Got any to go on with? Sorry Aaldtimer, it was 6 letters.
Is it swifts? :confusedYes it is swifts
Sorry folks.:o
(javascript:cluePos(10,2))
Retouch pain caused by a dysfunction of the nervous system. (11 letters).
Sapphire2803
26-Nov-08, 14:38
Neuropathic :)
Neuropathic :)By Jove you got it there.:lol:
Oh anagram - I am rubbish at these! :confused :(
I'm no good at anagrams either -can't seem to 'see' them, but this site does the job for me :)
http://www.a2zwordfinder.com/anagram.html
Lazy cheat that I am! ;)
IRA reversed + zona....think you may be right about the acronym, but can't find it anywhere.
Fe (chemical symbol for iron) + a rod (reversed).
a + d for director within co for company. [disgust]
Seems like the Daily Mail crossword, unless I am mistaken.
South Africa was known as Zuid Afrika,or ZA for short, in Dutch. If something is working it is ON. ON in ZA gives ZONA. Very contrived, but that is cryptic for you!!
Seems like the Daily Mail crossword, unless I am mistaken.
South Africa was known as Zuid Afrika,or ZA for short, in Dutch. If something is working it is ON. ON in ZA gives ZONA. Very contrived, but that is cryptic for you!!
Man alive scorrie my brain is exhausted just readin the answers to these!
dortmunder
28-Nov-08, 20:43
Seems like the Daily Mail crossword, unless I am mistaken.
You're right. I usually do theirs or the Groat's.
South Africa was known as Zuid Afrika,or ZA for short, in Dutch. If something is working it is ON. ON in ZA gives ZONA.
Thanks. I actually sussed that myself after I first posted it.
Unfortunately, I've a few more where I just can't see the logic of the answers. I thought by now I'd be getting better at this...
"Row about doctor's deal, for example" = 'timber'
"Fish found on party lines" = 'dory'
"When gathering cereal, find food for jays" = 'acorns'
"Engineers left account" = 'report'
Dory is a kind of fish - 'do' is a party, 'ry' is a short form for railway (lines)
RE = Royal ENGINEERS + LEFT is port side on ship : whole thing comes together in REPORT which means an account!
Row = TIER. Put these letters about MB (shorted initials for doctor) and you get TIMBER. Deal is a kind of wood or timber!
You're right. I usually do theirs or the Groat's.
Thanks. I actually sussed that myself after I first posted it.
Unfortunately, I've a few more where I just can't see the logic of the answers. I thought by now I'd be getting better at this...
"When gathering cereal, find food for jays" = 'acorns'
The word "when" can be a synonym for "as", if the cereal "corn" is gathered by the word "as", you get acorns. The bird Jay, part of the Crow family, eats acorns.
dortmunder
29-Nov-08, 13:26
Many thanks, bird and scorrie. (Maybe they're related...)
dortmunder
01-Dec-08, 14:05
Two more where the logic escapes me. All help greatly appreciated as usual...
"Ragged ruffian protects school urchin" - 'ragamuffin'. The answer's screaming out at you but where does the 'am' come from?
"Prince's on the throne with child" - 'pregnant'.
Aaldtimer
02-Dec-08, 03:44
The second one... "P" for prince + regnant (on the throne)(with child).
As for the first...havent a Scooby!
It's where does the "gam" come from that throws me! [disgust]
dortmunder
03-Dec-08, 14:48
Thanks again, Aaldtimer. These ones are annoying me now...
"E.g. Red Rum or Shergar, once nervous, no good came from it" = 'racehorse'
"It may specify colouring in space - dark brown" = 'e-number'
"It may specify colouring in space - dark brown" = 'e-number'
Umber is a dark brown pigment. E- numbers are for additives such as colourings. Not sure about the 'space' bit though...unless it just refers to the dash in e-number? :confused
dortmunder
10-Dec-08, 20:35
Thanks, Angela. The 'racehorse' one has everyone beat then? Pity. Here are some more where the logic escapes me...
"Elbow room for a tiny student back on top of yacht" = 'leeway'
"Brief appearance by ladies?" = 'loo'
"Costa del Caribbean?" = 'rib'
Sapphire2803
10-Dec-08, 20:55
Costa - a rib-like part of a plant or animal (such as a middle rib of a leaf or a thickened vein of an insect wing)
Aaldtimer
10-Dec-08, 22:34
Y(acht) + a wee l(earner) backwards = leeway. [disgust]
Aaldtimer
11-Dec-08, 04:25
"Brief appearance by ladies?" = 'loo'
Mmmm, ...Loo(k) ? ...not necessarilly Ladies' tho'...pretty obscure if you ask me!
Just noticed this one...
"E.g. Red Rum or Shergar, once nervous, no good came from it" = 'racehorse'
Shergar once...remove "ng" for not good = sheraroce = angram for racehorse.[disgust]
dortmunder
15-Dec-08, 14:18
Thanks again, Aaldtimer. Now then, I've four today which are puzzling me...
"'Relic' shows High Priest in vestments denoting this faith" = 'Roman Catholic'.
"Lolly regularly follows family members, as a rule" = 'generally'
"Recording device copied in Queen Mary's house" = 'tape deck' (is that 'tap' 'e-deck'?)
"Show great awe for head of state escaping defeat" = 'revere'
Aaldtimer
15-Dec-08, 14:56
"'Relic' shows High Priest in vestments denoting this faith" = 'Roman Catholic'. High priest is Eli, within the initials RC.
"Lolly regularly follows family members, as a rule" = 'generally'
Genera is family members, dunno about "lly" tho', short for "lolly" mibbe?
"Recording device copied in Queen Mary's house" = 'tape deck' (is that 'tap' 'e-deck'?) "aped" is copied, within Teck, which is Queen Mary's (Geo V missus) royal house. i.e. Mary of Teck,. (Had to google that one!)
"Show great awe for head of state escaping defeat" = 'revere'
Just take the letter "s" (head of state) out of the word "reverse"(defeat) = revere.:)
dortmunder
15-Dec-08, 15:23
Thank you kindly...
"Lolly regularly" means take letters at regular intervals (L, L & Y in this case). I shouda spotted that.
Just a quick crossword anecdote:-
Daily Mail Quick Crossword 6th December:-
6 Across) Stiffening Agent (six letters)
After getting the three interlocking Down clues, I realised the answer was "Starch", it also meant I had to scrub out my original entry of "Viagra" ;)
teenybash
15-Dec-08, 17:19
Just a quick crossword anecdote:-
Daily Mail Quick Crossword 6th December:-
6 Across) Stiffening Agent (six letters)
After getting the three interlocking Down clues, I realised the answer was "Starch", it also meant I had to scrub out my original entry of "Viagra" ;)
Ooooo you are naughty..........but I like you....:lol:
" Brief appearance of ladies," think that could relate to the card game Loo.
dortmunder
17-Dec-08, 11:18
There's a card game called Loo? Does it involve flushes?
Now then, my compiler has started using a new technique - numbers. Once more, the logic escapes me...
"Money for Kelvin in mulled St Patrick's Irish brandy, say?" = 'Christmas Spirit'. ('brandy, say' will be spirit but that's all I can see.)
"5 20 embraces Hawaiian greeting" = 'aloha'
"Nigerian 3 in distress" = 'edo'. (Edo - noun - a member of a west African people living in the tropical forest region of southern Nigeria.)
dortmunder
21-Dec-08, 13:56
Hmm, everyone beaten by those three then...
OK, one from Friday's Groat - "Involve handing on the property" - *N*A*L. The answer must be 'entail' but why?
DeHaviLand
21-Dec-08, 16:21
There's a card game called Loo? Does it involve flushes?
Now then, my compiler has started using a new technique - numbers. Once more, the logic escapes me...
"Money for Kelvin in mulled St Patrick's Irish brandy, say?" = 'Christmas Spirit'. ('brandy, say' will be spirit but that's all I can see.)
"5 20 embraces Hawaiian greeting" = 'aloha'
"Nigerian 3 in distress" = 'edo'. (Edo - noun - a member of a west African people living in the tropical forest region of southern Nigeria.)
The number reference may be directing you to look at one of the other answers. So, if 3 down or 3 across had the solution doe, or ode, this would then be an anagram ( in distress).
dortmunder
30-Dec-08, 14:59
Thanks DeHaviLand - I'll bet you're right but I didn't keep the puzzle in question. Now then, these two are really bugging me:-
"Person who charges a cold customer, not Tom" = 'accuser'
"He judges fools and small men" = 'assessor'
Can anyone explain the 'not Tom' and 'small men' references?
Aaldtimer
30-Dec-08, 16:11
..."a cold customer, not Tom"... a c(old) customer -tom = accuser.:)
I can see the "asses" for fools, the "s" for small, but where the "or" comes from beats me!:confused
dortmunder
02-Jan-09, 20:39
Thanks again - kicking myself for not seeing the 'not Tom' routine...
Anyway, one more that I can't 'see':-
"To inspire love requires close attention" = 'endear'.
Thanks again - kicking myself for not seeing the 'not Tom' routine...
Anyway, one more that I can't 'see':-
"To inspire love requires close attention" = 'endear'.
To "Close" something would mean to "End" it. If you have someone's "Ear", you have their attention. End and Ear gives "Endear"
Friends, Orgers, Countrymen, lend me your ears. (Van Gogh)
dortmunder
15-Jan-09, 15:23
Thanks scorrie. I've been managing quite well recently but here's a clue where the logic evades me:
"Making donation, provided money's invested in Girl Guides" = 'gifting'. The GG is clear. Could money be FT (Financial Times)? Still doesn't make complete sense...
Thanks scorrie. I've been managing quite well recently but here's a clue where the logic evades me:
"Making donation, provided money's invested in Girl Guides" = 'gifting'. The GG is clear. Could money be FT (Financial Times)? Still doesn't make complete sense...
The 'if' in gifting could mean 'provided', so that only leaves 'tin' -could that mean money? :confused
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