View Full Version : No Smoking in Pubs day is looming
The 26th of March is looming closer and closer see below
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4635029.stm
How does everyone feel about not being able to light up with a drink? I am quite happy as I am a converted smoker, for health reasons I had to give up.
I found that stopping smoking was not as hard as I had thought. For years I smoked appox 200grms of Old Holborn a week, with a little help from "Patches" I succeeded in stopping.
In my local I hear mutterings and growls for the die hard smokers, but apart from that, nobody will say what they are going to do sic never set foot in a bar again, or nip out for a fly puff in between drinks?
Are the publicans crying all the way to the bank because of the loss of earnings? Will the non smoking bar staff now be working in a healthier environment?
I still claim that not much will change -- in cities at least:
Pubs will be much the same, but they will be smoke-free.
People will go outside for a fag every now and then; there will be a pavement subculture around pub doorways.This is what happened in Dublin and I see no reason why it shouldn't happen in Edinburgh.
As for Caithness, I'd rather not speculate. Over to the local populace...
golach, did you say Glooming?
Like you I retired hurt from around 50 B&H a day. My last cig was deposited as litter (I know) as I was wheeled in through the doors at Raigmore in a porter's chair because I had excruciation pain in one leg.
The pain soon went after an operation. The future prognosis for an occurrence I understood to be the replacement of a vein. After that, if it happened again, tough, suffer. The chap in the next bed to me at one time was in that situation.
Hospital curtains are not very sound proof, he was in deep discussion with the spacialist. "Well, we can't be sure at this stage. It might be two toes but it could be -----". Time for a little wander round the ward!
Definitely stopped me in my tracks.
Like you golach, I had little problem stopping and had no cravings or anything. Perhaps being doped up for the first few days helped, I don't really know.
Why it was like that I have no idea, it wasn't will power, it wasn't clever, it just was like that.
I only wish I did know how I found it so little of a problem, if I did I would tell anybody who wanted to stop how it was done.
Just to give the "want to stoppers" there is hope, I started smoking when I was eleven and stopped in my mid-fifties.
So as you see, it is not an impossible dream.
I'll go away now and stop boasting about my being a non-smoker.
But I'll still sit here feeling smug, so there. :D
I still claim that not much will change -- in cities at least:
Pubs will be much the same, but they will be smoke-free.
People will go outside for a fag every now and then; there will be a pavement subculture around pub doorways.This is what happened in Dublin and I see no reason why it shouldn't happen in Edinburgh.
As for Caithness, I'd rather not speculate. Over to the local populace...
Me again! Sorry.
Pubs, Yes, pubs. I worked for 18 years in a non-smoking workplace. (They didn't care if we killed ourselves smoking but it would have hurt the computers and they cost money!) We had to wait for a break to smoke. I don't remember one person in all that time who thought of giving up for that reason.
I suspect what happens in Edinburgh will happen here, I often see workers hanging round outside premises like naughty school children, the only difference is that they are not in the toilets or behind the bike shed (Do they still have bike sheds at schools?)
How does everyone feel about not being able to light up with a drink?
I'm an occasional smoker so it won't bother too much me but I am wondering how smokers will get around this ban i.e. if you go outside for a smoke you will have to leave your drink unnatended as you cannot take your drink outside, won't this increase 'spiking', I suppose it will be okay if you are with a group of people who can look after your drink AND your seat in a crowded pub!
Then there will be the next problem of groups of smokers loitering outside drinking establishments, and what about all those cigarette butts? Unless bins are provided the street will become littered with cigarette ends.:confused:
if you go outside for a smoke you will have to leave your drink unnatended as you cannot take your drink outside, won't this increase 'spiking'
I don't think so, people have to go to the toilet don't they? And increses in spiking will be dependent on increases on people who go out to spike not any increases in opportunities.
caithnessgirl
18-Jan-06, 12:33
I know that in most nightclubs, you cant go back out once your in unless your'e leaving the place and not intending on going back in. So i cant c them allowing folk to stand outside and smoke and waltz back in?? i dunno.
And i know after comin home from being out, i stink of smoke, even if im not smoking myself, but what are places gonna smell like when the smell of smoke isn't there to mask peoples body odour etc.....yuck!!!
Time will tell ... :confused
"but what are places gonna smell like when the smell of smoke isn't there to mask peoples body odour etc.....yuck!!! "
Aye remember the smell in Dominoes if you went in too early in the evening :Razz
"but what are places gonna smell like when the smell of smoke isn't there to mask peoples body odour etc.....yuck!!! "
Aye remember the smell in Dominoes if you went in too early in the evening :Razz
I think that was dope!
I think that was dope!
Now people I want you all to take nice deep breaths! :evil
It will be so nice to go out for an evening and not come home with clothes and hair stinking of stale cigarette smoke!
It will be so nice to go out for an evening and not come home with clothes and hair stinking of stale cigarette smoke!
I totally agree, Julia. I will be inclined to go out more often - honest! It's one of the reasons I don't like going into pubs.
Whitewater
18-Jan-06, 17:32
Have to agree with Rhegers, I don't the smoking ban will change much, and I know that many of the puplicans are happy about it as it will greatly reduce the damage done to furnishings and fittings, I also think many of the customers will enjoy it as well.
I used to be a smoker but have been stopped for 30 years, and to be honest I never liked smoking in enclosed, unventilated areas, you always got an extra dose of nicotene and came out smelling. If a few of the hardened smokers refuse to go into the pubs I'm sure that there will be as many nonsmokers who have not been in a pub for years who will make the effort to enjoy a sociable drink in a smokefree atmosphere,
Well done to all of those who have given up the dreaded weed but for me being a smoker i don't WANT to give it up so will have to go outside, simple as that.
porshiepoo
18-Jan-06, 17:42
For all of those that think it won't make so much of a difference, lets see how many times you want to go outside an light up in the middle of winter. :Razz
I'm guessing most of you will choose to space out your fag runs as much as you can when going to the pub, which can only be a good thing for you eh!
Enjoy clean pub air folks! Enjoy a nice pub meal with no smoke wafting in from another room and most of all, enjoy cleaner lungs!!! You never know you may even like it. lol.
If i'm not wrong there pooie, your other half still smokes, and yes i will still have my million fag breaks in between my karaoke singing so there !
. if you go outside for a smoke you will have to leave your drink unnatended as you cannot take your drink outside, won't this increase 'spiking',
Is a smoker so desperate that they can't wait 5 minutes to finish their drink before rushing out??? But then I do have a 3 pack a day friend who went to the movies with us only once and refused to go again. He hadn't been in years and didn't realise that intermission had been abolished. After an hour he was squirming and just had to go have a fag break and miss 10 minutes of the movie!
Anyway, if you are at weatherspoons and abandon your drink, it'll be gone in 3 seconds..... no, infact, if you even take your eye off it, even if you are at the table, it will be swooped upon and dissapear before you blink.
Alice in Blunderland
18-Jan-06, 20:21
I am a non smoker and have a few friends who do smoke and they are not happy chappies.I have to admit that I agreee with the ban as on occassion whilst out for a meal we have been seated beside a smoker.They tend not to smoke when eating but light up as soon as they are finished a bit unfair on the surrounding people who are still eating,this said it doesnt mean that all smokers are as inconsiderate.
willowbankbear
18-Jan-06, 23:05
I usde to smoke until 7month ago , ive put 2 stone on in weight coz i feel the need to eat, everyday i have the urge to light up but everyday i think screw that.
I initially gave up smoking because I thought ive got that face that if i was in a pub or club, that id be the one that the officials would pick on first ,Yes im that unlucky!@!!.
Then im always coughing ,it doesnt seem to have improved this aspect of things.
Everyone says look at the money youll save but my tobacco was off the back of a lorry so it didnt really cost that much , just my health.
It is an overdue ruling though but im surprised at the government how are they going to claw back the millions of pounds in lost revenue that will undoubtedly happen??
Bung it on someone else as usual likely.
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End of March Beware Smokers!!!
Youll end up sleeping with the Fishes:evil :evil :evil
The one thing which really does puzzle me is that we are constantly being told that a longer lived, ever ageing population is one huge unsolvable problem.
Yet the very same people are trying to bludgeon people into living healthier lives in order to live longer!
I have sat quietly for many hours trying to work that one out without success.
I am supposed to keep fit and stay healthy so I can have a long, deprived and medically neglected old age?
Brilliant!
willowbankbear
18-Jan-06, 23:30
The one thing which really does puzzle me is that we are constantly being told that a longer lived, ever ageing population is one huge unsolvable problem.
Yet the very same people are trying to bludgeon people into living healthier lives in order to live longer!
I have sat quietly for many hours trying to work that one out without success.
I am supposed to keep fit and stay healthy so I can have a long, deprived and medically neglected old age?
Brilliant!
Ye have a good point there Jaws haha, it s all about contradicting yerself nowadays, And who better than HM Government to lead us all the way??:lol:
Ye have a good point there Jaws haha, it s all about contradicting yerself nowadays, And who better than HM Government to lead us all the way??:lol:
They just want to muscle in on my territory. I have been told I'm very good at contradicting myself.
It seems that once a decision is made I should just stick with it regardless.:lol:
Everyone says look at the money youll save but my tobacco was off the back of a lorry so it didnt really cost that much ,
Oh I wish you had said that before June when I was still working as a Customs Officer, I would have loved putting a Bootleging Hun behind bars [evil]
golach, I really thought you were such a nice person and then you shatter my illusions. Customs Officer indeed!
That's about half a step up from a tax man. :Razz
Well, I'm not really sure if the smoking ban is gonna be a good or bad thing for business.
I work in a bar and we have a good air extraction system. That made a huge difference to my working environment and it allows me to breathe a lot easier.
I've spoken to lots and lots of customers and they seem to be of the opinion that they just won't go to the pub anymore. They might visit occasionally, but not like they used to. If we lose our regular punters, we'll lose a lot of money.
Ok, we might pick up on non-smokers, but most of our regular custom(who put a lot of money over the bar) will be gone. The clean air people won't make up for it.
I'm of the opininon that its a bad move, only time can tell though.
I haven't read right through this thread yet, but I'm pretty sure that I know what all the concerns about not being allowed to smoke in pubs are... and probably a few that haven't been raised :)
In New Zealand, about 12 months ago, legislation came into effect that prevents we smokers from lighting up in any building at all, except for our own homes. That, of course, includes pubs, clubs, restaurants, workplaces, hospitals, airports and, even, bus shelters :)
In fact, where non-smokers may gather, we aren't allowed to smoke, unless it is outside. Smoking rooms are not allowed.
The fears and concerns that were raised by all interested parties, including publicans, have all come to nothing.
Pubs and clubs have found innovative ways to cater to smokers and non-smokers, alike. Most pubs now have covered, but not enclosed, areas for smokers. If a smoker has to leave his drink behind, then most premises will hold it for him, or her, behind the bar, to prevent spiking.
Smokers, who feared that they would be sent to Coventry, now find that they enjoy their "own" space and non-smokers are frowned upon in the smoking areas.. quite a turn-around :)
Financially, pubs, clubs and restaurants are thriving. Non-smokers have returned to those establishments, now that they don't have to put up with foul smelling and unhealthy air.
It's worth noting that the old adage that most drinkers are smokers has proved to be false, at least in NZ.
At the end of the day, no-one here feels hard done by and everyone is benefitting, one way or another.
Golach, I find the use of the term "hun" offensive, bigoted, discriminatory and totally unnecessary.
Golach, I find the use of the term "hun" offensive, bigoted, discriminatory and totally unnecessary.
Ahh diddums!!!, it was said as a joke to earlier postings of willowbanker, and similar posters of his ilk, If you are offended by that term then what can I say!!!!
LOL - slap my wrists and accuse me of trolling ;)
I am a smoker married to a non smoker, so he is looking forward to it, whilst I am a bit more wary. On saying that we were in Dublin a fortnight before Christmas and I was dreading it. But it was no problem at all. Business certainly hasn't been affected over there. There were as many people outside smoking as there are inside, it's a bit like having a party and everyone is in the kitchen smoking, and because everyone is doing the same thing is was great crack. Mind you it wasn't raining and everyone was under cover, fine if you have the space, bit of a bummer if you have to stand outside with horizontal rain smacking you in the side of the face! Just have to wait and see I guess.
I'm a smoker and only smoke at my own back door. Banning smoking in public places is a good thing although i smoke myself i hate when i'm out for a meal and the person at the next table lights up..yuk! more consideration is needed.
I hate when someone smokes in a car it makes me sick..i really should kick the habit because its a stinky one.
willowbankbear
19-Jan-06, 21:08
Golach, I find the use of the term "hun" offensive, bigoted, discriminatory and totally unnecessary.
I wouldnt let that sort of thing bother me, im thickskinned & brass necked, Im sure Golach is too. Course its nothing to do with smoking bans, But hey Golach your entitled to your opinion,I dont agree with it but who cares?:p
connieb19
19-Jan-06, 21:16
Well, I'm looking forward to the smoking ban. The way things are at the moment, I am put off going into a pub because of the smell on your clothes when you leave.. If I have a night out I have to go in the shower as soon as I get home and get my clothes straight in the washing machine..:(
I think the Pubs will actually be busier because i know a lot of people who feel the same way as I do!!:D
It must be Great news for the people work in the pubs!! :Razz
willowbankbear
19-Jan-06, 21:26
Ive noticed that too Connie, that if you go into the non smoking section in Spoons , yer eyes dont sting or smart of smoke at the end of the night.
Thanks for reminding me of that, something to look forward to
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