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Who does people think will make the best president for america. John macain or barack obama.
Obama, Macain is not in the best of health an if he went down -Palin would be calling the shots-pitbull in knickers. o k so would that be for the better or not, I 'aint come across one person over here who I have talked to who comes over positive on that one,an I am giving them the benifit of knowing what they are on about an that covers young an old, male an female.If Baracks running mate succedes he is at least a seasoned politician an hopefully well able to pick up the reins an control the turmoil .Me I would go for Barack anyway,he comes over well, an would be a breath of fresh air, considering that at election time all politicos are full of wind an tell the most dreadful porkies. Bush has done what he was put there to do. Time for the democrats to do the string pulling again .imho
OBAMA .........all the way.
I really worry about our (the world's) future with a Macain / Pailin ticket.
I'm worried about the Stephen Harper ticket too Tristan [lol] I do apologise for that dreadful typo
Cough Tristan not Tristian.
That is the joy of Canadian politics even the most right wing mainstream Canadian politician is far left of the US Democrats or Republicans...grin
obama dear Lord not mcain!
John McCain sort of went up in my estimations when he said that Barack Obama was a decent human being in response to the redneck woman who denounced Obama as a dangerous Arab.
Aaldtimer
18-Oct-08, 21:52
Very interesting item about McCain here:-
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Sorry it's such a long link!:)
teenybash
18-Oct-08, 21:53
I believe and hope Barack Obama becomes President. He is a man of thought and conducts himself with a charming dignity. He is eloquent, speaking clearly and concisely, appearing at ease with himself and others....he will have a powerful experienced team behind him who will make up for any lack of experience........................and the good news folks................He is of Irish decent now what could be better than that!!!!!!:Razz
tommy1979
18-Oct-08, 22:00
He is of Irish decent now what could be better than that!!!!!!:Razz
what exactly does that have to do with it? :confused
teenybash
18-Oct-08, 22:11
what exactly does that have to do with it? :confused
Humour...............You can see it in his smile.................:roll:
Obama, most definitely. Who in their right mind would vote for that woman? She can hardly string a sentence together. I don't want her 'finger on the button', that's for sure.
Margaret M.
19-Oct-08, 02:59
If McSame wins, I am heading back to Scotland. Palin is too similar to Bush for my liking. I wish she would just go back to the beach in Alaska and keep an eye on Russia. This country deserves an intelligent, articulate President after putting up with W for eight years. The Republicans have run their usual smear campaign and many of their followers are convinced that Obama is a terrorist.
As for Joe the plumber, his dream has a much better chance of becoming a reality if he were to vote for Obama. He is one that would benefit from Obama's plan to lower taxes on the middle class. Joe has not fared too well under Bush while all the fat cats got fatter. He is leaving the Bush era with a lien on his house for an unpaid tax bill and a judgment against him for unpaid medical expenses. Even though "Joe" obviously needs affordable health care and some tax relief, he plans on voting for McCain after he makes the most of his 15 minutes.
rockchick
19-Oct-08, 10:48
Obama, definitely! I'd be very frightened if McCain got in and Palin was "one heartbeat away from the presidency". However, I'd fear that Obama wouldn't live out his first year...there are too many racists out there with the right to bear arms that might not approve of a black president.
Either way, we'll be breaking ground with either a woman or a black man in the White House.
northener
19-Oct-08, 11:13
Not trying to start an argument Rockchick, but hasn't Condeleeza Rice already covered those two categories?
Yeah, she's not a black man..but I think she's covered the two 'minority' issues?
There is a big difference between being a senator or Secretary of State, and President IMHO - Having said that I hope Americans step up to the plate and elect Obama.
rockchick
19-Oct-08, 14:03
Not trying to start an argument Rockchick, but hasn't Condeleeza Rice already covered those two categories?
Yeah, she's not a black man..but I think she's covered the two 'minority' issues?
Last time I checked, Ms. Rice was neither president nor vice-president. The secretary of state is appointed, not voted in.
C'mon Ronnie reagan!! Now there was a man whos finger was on the pulse(think thats what he called the "bomb button");)
I hope that Barrock(better spelling as it makes him caithnessian!) gets in. But can you just imagine how Mr Redneck and all his aryian brotherhood would react if he gets in?
They would have themselves one mighty lynching ;)
After all JFK got shot because he wasnt a white protestant so only hope thay have learnt their lesson and let him get on with his job as He seems the right man for the job.
percy toboggan
19-Oct-08, 15:16
It will be Obama.
Even money he'll be assassinated in office.
That's a theory not a hope.
John McCain sort of went up in my estimations when he said that Barack Obama was a decent human being in response to the redneck woman who denounced Obama as a dangerous Arab.
I don't think that's a qualification for being able to run the country though.
And look at his statement again, it's still racist and Republicans don't seem to know when they're doing it. If I was of Arabic parentage, I'd be most upset by McCain's statement to the effect that Obama was not an Arab, rather he was a decent family man. So Arabs can't be decent people?
If Obama had to be voted in by the rest of the world he'd get a landslide. With only Americans voting god knows who'll win.
percy toboggan
19-Oct-08, 15:22
I think there may be a terrorist outrage in America very soon.
This is the only event which might give McCain a fighting chance.
I'd guess that terrorist organisations such as the loosely formed Al Qaeda, might not want Obama to win, as he could present a softer face towards the developing world.
It will be Obama.
Even money he'll be assassinated in office.
That's a theory not a hope.
Maybe George W will take him hunting some time?
Knowing bushy bombscare anything could happen !!! ;)
Fox News has opinion polls at Obama 49% McCain 47%, too close to call, SkyNews the sister channel has it at Obama 50.4% McCain 42.6%, Obama clear leader. Who should we believe is more likely? I can't make head no tail of it.:confused
i about said several very bad words when they started going on about obama trying to turn america into a socialist country! *grrr* that his tax ideas were purley socialist! ahem.. isnt it basically the same thing they do here in brittian? and ive never thought of the UK as being socialist!
i swear i think mcain and palin make up things, and then think..well if we say it loud enough it will be true, and america will belive us!
i do worry about assasination with obama.. and sadly more from the racist south.. as there will be a faction that will take great affront that a black man will be president.
funnily enough i dont think he will have a problem getting in to office.. and i doubt i will be sleeping come ellection night!
will be up half the night watching the polls!!
hoprfully this time round every vote will count!!
COME ON OBBAMA!! *woohoo* us democrats abroad love you!
ohhh rheg remember fox is a republican station *G*
It just has to be Obama, not only because the country would go under with macain and the painted lady in charge, but for american history.........WOW, I know this is not what it is about, but for me a fanatic history freek. This is a huge thing, im on the edge of my seat....
I suppose every country int he world is waiting for this election..
jock leith
29-Oct-08, 22:28
I really do hope that Obama will become President and deliver on all his promises,of forming a team around him that will be "Inclusive".The last thing he needs is to appoint some controversial figure into a high profile job
The only way for America to exit Iraq and Afghanistan will be through negotiation,if he can broker some kind of deal,he will get some of his detractors onboard.
I really do fear that he will become a target for right wing hotheads,and any small weakness shown will be an excuse to have a go.
Is America really ready for change?????? I hope so
percy toboggan
30-Oct-08, 19:48
They are being asked to vote for 'Change' but seem unclear on the 'change' on offer.
If the Republicans had a decent candidate to offer, and the economy had not been allowed to get into such a mess, this bloke Obama would stand no chance whatsoever. History is littered with the demise of the opportunist...and this is what we may well see over the coming years.
I would like still to record my vote for Hilary.
If the Republicans had a decent candidate to offer, and the economy had not been allowed to get into such a mess, this bloke Obama would stand no chance whatsoever.
Precisely because of the way the world is at the moment, it's time for change, i.e., for the Democrats to get in. Obama's race will just make it that bit harder for them to get in.
I think he'll be elected, and he may disappoint - how could he not when everyone expects him to save the world? But I want him to get a shot at it.
Why do I keep waking up in a panic having nightmares about farm, peanuts and great expanses of sand?
Shabbychic
31-Oct-08, 14:18
I would like still to record my vote for Hilary.
I would also like to record my vote for Hilary. Can't stand Obama or his awful wife. He has too many skeletons in his closet and is too radical in his views. I believe he is being pushed to win for all the wrong reasons.
I don't want the Republicans to win, again, so I suppose it will have to be Obama, but don't think his presidency will be a walk in the park or the "Change" many are hoping for.
Margaret M.
31-Oct-08, 14:34
They are being asked to vote for 'Change' but seem unclear on the 'change' on offer.
If the Republicans had a decent candidate to offer, and the economy had not been allowed to get into such a mess, this bloke Obama would stand no chance whatsoever. History is littered with the demise of the opportunist...and this is what we may well see over the coming years.
Obama has made his plans clear, whether or not they get implemented, if he wins, is another story.
I doubt that the huge numbers of enthusiastic supporters attending his rallies would vote Republican no matter how good their candidate. I truly believe that he is our best hope to get this country back on track -- within its borders and beyond.
I hate the way Americans call the president of the USA the leader of the free world....he/she will be the president of the USA pure and simple.
That said, I too, want Obama to win although when Hilary was in the race I did have soft spot for her too. She may not have had Obamas charisma but she did have good policies to back up her political stance. Obama has charisma but not too good on the policies I fear but at least hes not a warmongering numpty.
McCain is an old man who needs to retire to a redneck nursing home and let the world live in peace.
Margaret M.
31-Oct-08, 15:04
He has too many skeletons in his closet and is too radical in his views.
I have been following things very closely since this is the first time I am eligible to vote here. If I listened only to the Fox network and the conservative talking heads, I would be very fearful to vote for Obama. But I've listened to all sides, checked out chain emails and fact checked/debunked myths daily.
I obviously don't know which skeletons you refer to but the ones I've cared about enough to research turned out to be greatly exaggerated or taken out of context by the Republicans. They insinuate, misrepresent facts or flat out lie. They specialize in character attacks and I hope their hateful smear campaign causes them to go down in flames.
Which of his views do you think are radical?
Give them Mandleson - he'll shake things up!!
... and we'll be rid of him.
I can't see too much change coming if either candidate wins, the political compass website has both McCain and Obama as being right-wing authoritarian.
Shabbychic
31-Oct-08, 16:25
Which of his views do you think are radical?
Like you Margaret, I don't listen to Fox News or any Talking Heads to get my views, although for once, bar Sean Hannity, Fox have on the whole been pretty fair in the coverage of this election, unlike most of the rest of the Media, who are out to get Obama elected at any cost. There are lies and myths spouting from both sides, Palin and Joe the plumber, are another prime example.
Both sides insinuate, misrepresent facts and flat out lie, and both sides also specialize in character attacks and smear campaigns. Just because one side debunks something doesn't mean they are telling the truth either.
As far as I can see though, sexism appears to be an even bigger issue in this election than racism, especially from the Democrats, hence the treatment of both Hilary and Sarah Palin.
I see Obama to be of the school of Sharpton and Jackson; where there is a hint of racism, it is exploited, when there is no racism, they invent it and any black resentment is nurtured to the hilt. Race is still an issue in America, but it is a two way street. It is prevelant on both sides, and not just whites against blacks.
Take for example the Trinity United Church of Christ, of which Obama and his family were members for many years. Many clips have been shown of preachings by the Rev. Wright and others, but what I find distasteful is not only the vitriol that is being preached, but the reaction of the congregation to it. They love it.
I know Obama didn't do the actual preaching, but anyone who is involved in the rhetoric of these types of churches, is not open minded or above racism. As long as these places exist, race will always be an issue in America, and in my view, not a place to nurture the future President of America.
There is also all the associations Obama has had with radicals over the years. He just happened to be on the same board as this one, he just happened to be at a dinner with that one and so on. Who really knows the truth? To be honest, I don't think Obama would even get a job with the FBI if his background was thoroughly checked out, let alone be President.
Even the Media who have been supporting him and following him around, are now claiming they are not allowed to ask too many questions, and are finally admitting they don't really know much about him.
So maybe he really is a great guy and the best thing that ever happened to America, but who really knows what they will be voting for? With the world in the state it is in at the moment, a vote for Obama is like playing Russian Roulette.
At least with Hilary, you knew what you were getting.
Margaret M.
31-Oct-08, 18:39
I have been on Boards knowing little or nothing about the background of other Board Members. Quite honestly, if I learned that a friend who is now a productive, law abiding college professor was an anti-establishment activist 40 years ago, I probably would not be too bothered.
In case you haven't heard Rev. Wright's entire sermon, it sounds quite different in context.
The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s 9/11 sermon (http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/)
CNN Contributor Roland Martin has listened to several of the sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright from Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.
Portions of the sermons have been excerpted in recent stories.
As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. I’ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.
I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, “The Day of Jerusalem’s Fall.” It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.
One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned “chickens coming home to roost.” He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation.
He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:
“I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday did anybody else see or hear him? He was on FOX News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the FOX News commentators to no end, he pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, he pointed out that what Malcolm X said when he was silenced by Elijah Mohammad was in fact true, he said Americas chickens, are coming home to roost.”
“We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.
“We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.
“We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.
“We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.
“We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.
“We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.
“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.
“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.
“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.
“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”
He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.
“What is the state of your family?” he asked.
And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.
His sermon thesis:
1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.
2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they won’t put me on PBS or national cable for what I’m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)
“We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,” he said.
Wright then said we can’t stop messing over people and thinking they can’t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.
“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”
3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.
By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said “God damn America.” I’m not sure which sermon that came from.
This doesn’t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.
The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.
I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.
And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.
I have been on Boards knowing little or nothing about the background of other Board Members. Quite honestly, if I learned that a friend who is now a productive, law abiding college professor was an anti-establishment activist 40 years ago, I probably would not be too bothered.
In case you haven't heard Rev. Wright's entire sermon, it sounds quite different in context.
The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s 9/11 sermon (http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/)
CNN Contributor Roland Martin has listened to several of the sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright from Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.
Portions of the sermons have been excerpted in recent stories.
As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. I’ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.
I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, “The Day of Jerusalem’s Fall.” It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.
One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned “chickens coming home to roost.” He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation.
He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:
“I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday did anybody else see or hear him? He was on FOX News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the FOX News commentators to no end, he pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, he pointed out that what Malcolm X said when he was silenced by Elijah Mohammad was in fact true, he said Americas chickens, are coming home to roost.”
“We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.
“We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.
“We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.
“We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.
“We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.
“We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.
“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.
“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.
“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.
“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”
He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.
“What is the state of your family?” he asked.
And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.
His sermon thesis:
1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.
2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they won’t put me on PBS or national cable for what I’m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)
“We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,” he said.
Wright then said we can’t stop messing over people and thinking they can’t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.
“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”
3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.
By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said “God damn America.” I’m not sure which sermon that came from.
This doesn’t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.
The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.
I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.
And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.
That is a very powerful speech that I hadnt heard before.
There are some excellent poignant points in there.
Thanks for posting it.
Amy-Winehouse
31-Oct-08, 18:56
I think the Americans will elect Obama , I also feel , unfortunately for Obama ,that he will be assassinated very quickly after beginning his tenure in office.
Some of those deep south residents Ive been reading about lately are not best pleased we shall say:eek:
For Obama`s sake I hope he loses but for the planets sake, I hope McCain goes back to making oven chips & Sarah Palin goes back to being Dawn in Eastenders
I think the Americans will elect Obama , I also feel , unfortunately for Obama ,that he will be assassinated very quickly after beginning his tenure in office.
Some of those deep south residents Ive been reading about lately are not best pleased we shall say:eek:
For Obama`s sake I hope he loses but for the planets sake, I hope McCain goes back to making oven chips & Sarah Palin goes back to being Dawn in Eastenders
I do think that some Aryan brother will assisanate him(or at least attempt), hopefully not but knowing how devoted some of these guys are they will stop at nothing and they are some crazy dudes there in Trailer land.
Valerie Campbell
31-Oct-08, 19:21
I think Obama will be the next president, but to be honest I'm tired hearing about it. It seems to go on for months and months before we get to the end game. It must be worse in the States where the coverage is everywhere. hotrod4, you have a point. The first black president of the most powerful country in the world will be something the white supremacists will NOT be happy about but he has the greatest guys on earth protecting him, although even they couldn't stop Reagan being shot. (I would have said Jack Kennedy, but controversy still surrounds that one!)
The only people who could protect Obama would be Murdoch,Face,Hannibal and MrT. :)
As I said I do hope it doesnt come to that Its not is Obama ready but are the aryan brotherhood ready for him?
Having a black president is all the encouragement that these numpties need to get started.
When Barack Obama starts mentioning E.L.E then I will take notice to what he says.:lol:
Apparently there has already been 5 presidents of African lineage.
Would be very surprised if Obama didnt get elected, the mainstream media have already decided with their biased reporting. Any way it doesnt really matter who gets in as the government effectively run the show with the President as a mere figurehead. (imo)
Would be very surprised if Obama didnt get elected, the mainstream media have already decided with their biased reporting. Any way it doesnt really matter who gets in as the government effectively run the show with the President as a mere figurehead. (imo)If it wasn't so, it would be a dictatorship?
I know it is not scientific but it is an interesting idea to see how votes might go around the world.
http://www.betavote.com/
I know it is not scientific but it is an interesting idea to see how votes might go around the world.
http://www.betavote.com/
Thanks Tristan. But what's with Poland? Talk about bucking a trend.
How come there are no votes from England and Scotland but Isle of Man is represented?
Austria has a high percentage of votes for Obama which is a shock as they are quite a "right wing" country!
Afghanistan going for McCain is a shock too! :0
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