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How many people here can hold their cyber hands up and admit when they are wrong rather than take the huff and spit the dummy when a thread doesn't go the way they intended? So come on folks, It aint complicated to be honest.
A cyber box of Kleenex goes to the most honest poster.:lol:
maybe if certain people didnt go to extremes to pick certain threads to pieces they wouldnt feel the need to close threads to keep the peace!
Now this thread is opened just to carry on the farse[evil]
maybe if certain people didnt go to extremes to pick certain threads to pieces they wouldnt feel the need to close threads to keep the peace!
Now this thread is opened just to carry on the farse[evil]
well said BRIE! :D
maybe if certain people didnt go to extremes to pick certain threads to pieces they wouldnt feel the need to close threads to keep the peace!
Now this thread is opened just to carry on the farse[evil]This is not about closing threads Brie. This is about differing opinions in various threads.
Would you agree to disagree and use your views to stimulate debate or would you take the huff? Easy enough questions to answer wouldn't you agree?
northener
09-Jun-08, 16:44
I'm never wrong.
This is not about closing threads Brie. This is about differing opinions in various threads.
Would you agree to disagree and use your views to stimulate debate or would you take the huff? Easy enough questions to answer wouldn't you agree?
that depends on where the difference of opinion was heading, if it was obviously heading into an arguement verging on ridiculous I would take the huff as you put it & close the thread! If it was healthy discussion relating to the subject that was brought up then I use my views to stimulate debate.
But I do believe this thread was definately pointed at the closing of the policeman thread!
Thank you kindly for the return of negative rep TBH. glad to see you can take criticism!!
that depends on where the difference of opinion was heading, if it was obviously heading into an arguement verging on ridiculous I would take the huff as you put it & close the thread! If it was healthy discussion relating to the subject that was brought up then I use my views to stimulate debate.
But I do believe this thread was definately pointed at the closing of the policeman thread!There is nothing ridiculous about having a stern, negative view on someone being assumed guilty before they have even been tried never mind convicted.
Back to the point of the thread, you are a debator not a huffer.
Thank you kindly for the return of negative rep TBH. glad to see you can take criticism!!Glad to see you can't.:D
silverfox57
09-Jun-08, 17:08
How many people here can hold their cyber hands up and admit when they are wrong rather than take the huff and spit the dummy when a thread doesn't go the way they intended? So come on folks, It aint complicated to be honest.
A cyber box of Kleenex goes to the most honest poster.:lol:
no would not take the huff:eek:as it is dealing in the real world that counts,
Tighsonas4
09-Jun-08, 20:46
if im going to take the huff on here cant see my life being a happy one [lol]
trying not to deviate but can anyone come in and CLOSE a thread???
not that i intend doing so lol tony
if im going to take the huff on here cant see my life being a happy one [lol]
trying not to deviate but can anyone come in and CLOSE a thread???
not that i intend doing so lol tony
Tony the only people who can close a thread are the mods or the person who started it off.
I do find that some on here are only hear to try and pick faults with peoples posts.
I try and laugh it off after all if thats what makes them tick then they have a very boring life ;)
Spit the dummy-no Declare War and invade then hell yeah :)
Phoebus_Apollo
09-Jun-08, 21:06
I do wonder how many people would say face-to-face what they say on the Org under an alterego...mmm:confused
Kevin Milkins
09-Jun-08, 23:48
I look at every thread on merrit and it seems some people turn being right into almost a fetish. If it leads to a positive debate , then all well and good but if some people are put down through lack of confidence or interlect then that is not too clever. After a while it is obvious who to give a wide bearth. The answear to the question is no I do not take the huff , or would I go out of my way to massage some people's ego
If a topic is closed because the original poster has lost the argument, then it is definately a case of toys out of the pram.
I love a healthy debate, but have to admit I prefer them in the pub or with friends than on the org. Don't get me wrong, I love to throw my hat into the ring but often tire with the way debates on here degrade into a mixture of petty insults etc.
I also agree that the alter-ego that hiding behind a username can provide makes for less of a debate than you would ever get in person.
This is not about closing threads Brie. This is about differing opinions in various threads.
Would you agree to disagree and use your views to stimulate debate or would you take the huff? Easy enough questions to answer wouldn't you agree?
Just in case anyone is in any doubt, this thread IS about closing threads. TBH was the "underbidder" on the thread concerning the Policeman who was stabbed to death and who had resigned from the force awaiting Child Porn charges.
A few minutes after I closed the thread, because of it wandering from the question I was asking, TBH started this thread. Seemingly unrelated to my thread, and an independent thread in its own right, it is mysteriously titled "Dry your eyes m8". I think the people who saw the original thread had no difficulty in identifying what was going on. TBH talks about honesty but hasn't the integrity to show it themselves.
This was my original post:-
"A former Policeman who was awaiting trial for Child Pornography offences was stabbed to death over the weekend (see link):-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7441793.stm
Obviously it is wrong for someone to take the life of another person and the man had not been tried and found guilty. I just wonder if other people find it difficult to feel sorry for someone who has committed such crimes, or whether they see all people the same way and can forgive the offences. I must add that the man in question here had also been charged with creating images as well as possessing them."
Anyone with an open mind can see that I start by condemning the taking of the man's life. Anyone with an open mind can also see that I refer to "someone who has committed such crimes". I do not refer to the man in question, since I have already accepted that he was not tried for the offences. I asked whether people "find it difficult to feel sorry for someone who has committed such crimes", that is a simple, stand alone, statement. "Someone" is a very vague term and given my previous, clear, condemnation of the attack on the man in question, it is startlingly obvious that I was talking in general terms for the sake of discussion. The final part of my post was for the purpose of clarity, as I consider the practice of creating pornographic images of children to be a worse offence than the viewing of images. I thought that this may have contributed in some way to someone taking the law into their own hands.
My intention was to stimulate debate about TRUE forgiveness, how deep it can run in the face of atrocious offences. The thread was rapidly turning into the usual "Hang em High" and the preaching of tolerance from a million miles away from the reality of heinous crimes. I closed the thread to avoid it turning into a slanging match. People should concentrate on reading what is written, rather than seeing what is most likely to be fodder for "Chanty Wrassling"
Just in case anyone is in any doubt, this thread IS about closing threads. TBH was the "underbidder" on the thread concerning the Policeman who was stabbed to death and who had resigned from the force awaiting Child Porn charges.
A few minutes after I closed the thread, because of it wandering from the question I was asking, TBH started this thread. Seemingly unrelated to my thread, and an independent thread in its own right, it is mysteriously titled "Dry your eyes m8". I think the people who saw the original thread had no difficulty in identifying what was going on. TBH talks about honesty but hasn't the integrity to show it themselves.
This was my original post:-
"A former Policeman who was awaiting trial for Child Pornography offences was stabbed to death over the weekend (see link):-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7441793.stm
Obviously it is wrong for someone to take the life of another person and the man had not been tried and found guilty. I just wonder if other people find it difficult to feel sorry for someone who has committed such crimes, or whether they see all people the same way and can forgive the offences. I must add that the man in question here had also been charged with creating images as well as possessing them."
Anyone with an open mind can see that I start by condemning the taking of the man's life. Anyone with an open mind can also see that I refer to "someone who has committed such crimes". I do not refer to the man in question, since I have already accepted that he was not tried for the offences. I asked whether people "find it difficult to feel sorry for someone who has committed such crimes", that is a simple, stand alone, statement. "Someone" is a very vague term and given my previous, clear, condemnation of the attack on the man in question, it is startlingly obvious that I was talking in general terms for the sake of discussion. The final part of my post was for the purpose of clarity, as I consider the practice of creating pornographic images of children to be a worse offence than the viewing of images. I thought that this may have contributed in some way to someone taking the law into their own hands.
My intention was to stimulate debate about TRUE forgiveness, how deep it can run in the face of atrocious offences. The thread was rapidly turning into the usual "Hang em High" and the preaching of tolerance from a million miles away from the reality of heinous crimes. I closed the thread to avoid it turning into a slanging match. People should concentrate on reading what is written, rather than seeing what is most likely to be fodder for "Chanty Wrassling"
Scorrie, you should know better.
All threads on here end with who can pick the most faults in other peoples postings, Who can post the most "official links" and so on.
You shouldn't have closed the thread in my opinion, just stand back and don't bother with it anymore.
I also agree that the alter-ego that hiding behind a username can provide makes for less of a debate than you would ever get in person.
I don't think that's true at all. Many people are shy. In addition, many people are highly unlikely to tell you the brutal truth if they are a friend of yours. I don't think many of the world's great debates were ever resolved "In the pub"
Scorrie, you should know better.
All threads on here end with who can pick the most faults in other peoples postings, Who can post the most "official links" and so on.
You shouldn't have closed the thread in my opinion, just stand back and don't bother with it anymore.
I know what you mean, but I think that the starter of the thread should take some responsibility for where it starts heading.
I don't think that's true at all. Many people are shy. In addition, many people are highly unlikely to tell you the brutal truth if they are a friend of yours. I don't think many of the world's great debates were ever resolved "In the pub"
No, they probably weren't.
But being able to hide an identity might also hide ulterior motives.
The "world's great debates" nowadays are settled in the United Nations. Would voting go differently if it were a blind ballot rather than a show of hands?
I think so.
Lord Flasheart
10-Jun-08, 06:42
I think its true that many of the worlds greatest debates have never been solved in the pub .. but more than few have been sorted outside it .. :lol:
Whether its on the internet or in real life there will always be people that will talk it but not walk it, you are never going to change it, accept it and move on. I think its perfectly ok to have a falling out, disagreement or even a bit of an argument on here BUT the important thing is not to bear a grudge about it. I had a wee to-and-fro with Scorrie about Dwarf Throwing/Tossing/Flinging/Heaving whatever you want to call it. Do I bear a grudge .. not a bit of it. I thought it was quite funny actually, but at the end of the day completely pointless because did anyone REALLY care ??
And as for me .. I have to say I am as blunt and sarcastic in real life, do I have a lot of friends ?? .. no. Do I care ?? .. not a jot. I like to associate with like minded people and not those who seem false, want to rank climb or plain take the michael to your face or behind your back. I have a special devious mode I go into to sort them out and a special satisfaction from seeing them squirm. Im a Social Hand Grenade and proud of it.
And I have to disagree about great debates being settled in the United Nations !! .. are you kidding ?? .. seriously.
I CARE - yeah right! Yep we are all different and we have to accept that - but the question is - if we all accept that, are we all just the same?
Just in case anyone is in any doubt, this thread IS about closing threads. TBH was the "underbidder" on the thread concerning the Policeman who was stabbed to death and who had resigned from the force awaiting Child Porn charges. No Scorrie, the thread was created for reasons I have already intimated in a previous post
A few minutes after I closed the thread, because of it wandering from the question I was asking, TBH started this thread. Seemingly unrelated to my thread, and an independent thread in its own right, it is mysteriously titled "Dry your eyes m8". I think the people who saw the original thread had no difficulty in identifying what was going on. TBH talks about honesty but hasn't the integrity to show it themselves.There is nothing mysterious in the title. It is taken from a song of the same name by a band called 'The Streets.' Generally used when someone is being petulant it's an apt title in light of the subject matter of the thread don't you think?
Obviously it is wrong for someone to take the life of another person and the man had not been tried and found guilty. I just wonder if other people find it difficult to feel sorry for someone who has committed such crimes, or whether they see all people the same way and can forgive the offences. I must add that the man in question here had also been charged with creating images as well as possessing them."This statement flows seamlessly from start to finish giving me the impression that you are refering to the policeman throughout, the last sentence solidifying that impression. Forgive me my ignorance and narrow-mindedness but that is the way it came across to me, also the clue is in the title of your thread, 'child porn policeman'. Why not, 'policeman stabbed to death' or Vigilante kills policeman charged with paedophilia.
My intention was to stimulate debate about TRUE forgiveness, how deep it can run in the face of atrocious offences. The thread was rapidly turning into the usual "Hang em High" and the preaching of tolerance from a million miles away from the reality of heinous crimes. I closed the thread to avoid it turning into a slanging match. People should concentrate on reading what is written, rather than seeing what is most likely to be fodder for "Chanty Wrassling"Exactly what did you expect from emotive subjects such as childporn and vigilante killings?
People will always have extremely strong views on such matters, it shouldn't be any other way.
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