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I reckoned that we might get some more views here than we got in the Volunteering Opportunities section. Here is the body of text that Alistair Ross posted.
images/icons/icon1.gif Wick Scouts require Leaders
1st Wick Scout Group has a proud tradition dating back almost 80 years within Wick. As the 1st Scout troop to be formed within Caithness, we are extremely proud to carry the title of 1st Caithness as part of our identity.
Scouting, as a whole, has since developed over the preceding eight decades and currently caters for boys and girls of all ages from 6 years old through to 25 years of age. This is well demonstrated within the Wick Scout Group via Beavers, Cubs, Scouts, Explorers and Network Scouts.
Scouting, as a worldwide organisation is well organised, well developed and extremely well supported, both at a local and national level. There is a wealth of information and support materials available from the Scout Group, the Scout District and Area and via the Internet (www.scoutbase.org (http://www.scoutbase.org/)) as well as a huge support base within the County to assist with training, development, programme planning, camping, hiking, climbing etc.
All of these troops and units require assistance and guidance at various levels starting from Beavers & Cubs through to Scouts, with limited assistance required for Explorers and next to none for Network Scouts. We are very fortunate that Beavers and Cubs are well catered for as regards Leaders and Helpers but the Scouts and Explorers are not so well off. This can be seen by the fact that Wick Scouts, for the first time that I recall, are unable to attend and compete in the Area County Camp competition.
Without additional help, the 1st Caithness, 1st Wick Scout troop will not continue as they do at the moment. We may end up with a fortnightly meeting which may discourage the Scouts and eventually Scouts may stop altogether! This will be a great shame and a great loss to Wick and those Cubs and Beavers currently progressing through Scouting. It is with these thoughts that I ask if someone knows of anyone who may be interested in becoming a Scout Leader, Assistant Scout Leader, or Parent Helper or just simply lend a hand now and then. If so, please get in touch with myself to discuss this. Without help and support the Wick Scout troop will not be able to offer the opportunities it has for generations of young adults in future.
Regards
Alistair Ross
Chairman
1st Caithness, 1st Wick Scout Group
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well i emailed him with my experiences and poss help and the reply i got was " we will let u know"
dirdyweeker
30-Nov-05, 13:16
I also phoned to offer my help and was told someone would "be in touch" .....that was long before this article hit the newspaper and caithness.org
I wonder then how many more people HAVE offered and not had the same taken up!
Well it just shows how desparate they are,maybe its like everything else in this toon.
" yer face disna fit " , "yer local", or could be just a publicity stunt for funding.
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It saddens me to read these negative comments regarding lack of interest from this group, by the time the kid's can't compete in the local competition you would think that someone would be prioritising recruitment of new leaders/helpers. "Someone will get back to you" or "we will be in touch" then nothing doesn't fill you with much confidence as to how the group is being run. In their defence you could say people have full time jobs and other commitments so these things may take time but surly you don't go to the press with such a request if you are not able to see the recruitment through to a positive conclusion quickly, the very fact that NOSPE has posted on here suggests they are still struggling, already we are seeing negative vibes from those that have responded and that cant be good. Get it sorted for the kids.
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Surly this "ur face doesn't fit" culture that CHILLIE mentioned can't be going on within these local groups, it must be so hard to get commitment from individuals these days without this sort of selection process going on in the back ground. I find this hard to believe.
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NOSPE, maybe this forum is not the best place to be requesting help after all, already there is a negativity within the replies which cant be good for the club.
Hi Nospe,
I don’t live in Caithness any more so I can’t help you out here, however I’d like to get something off my chest that has been bothering me for a week now…
I have been a Beaver, a Cub, a Scout and a Venture Scout in my time and many of my fondest memories of childhood involve the Scouting movement. From my own experiences, I can’t recommend it enough.
From the tone of your own posts here I take it that you are involved in the Wick Scouts as either a more senior Scout or as a leader (and from your use of ‘we’ when talking about your kilts before, I believe the latter). Which is why I was shocked when you wrote this ( http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?p=36611#post36611).
When I was involved in the Scouts we always, as Scouts do now, marched in the Armistice Day parades. Year on year our leaders took the time to explain to us why we would be marching and they always asked for the names of those people who thought they might be attending. However, the attendance at the march was never compulsory. Our leaders understood that some people weren’t able to attend the marches because of prior commitments. They understood that some people couldn’t attend the marches for personal reasons. They also understood that some people just did not want to go.
What they never, EVER did was ‘out’ those people who couldn’t/wouldn’t go in a public forum and accuse them of not respecting the sacrifices made by those being remembered.
If you are representative of the Scouting movement in Wick today then the Scouts have changed since I was involved and I say shame!
Oh, and I would ask you this.
Who is the more disrespectful?
1) a fourteen-year-old who has the strength of character to say – rightly or wrongly – that it is more important to stand on the side of the road on Armistice Day dressed as smartly as he can than it is to join the marchers in what he feels are scruffy kilts.
Or
2) A person in authority who believes that marching in the parade should be compulsory (which kind of goes against the whole point of the day, don’t you think?) and failure to attend should result in public humiliation
I say again; shame.
well i have been in scouting for 18 years from cubs to then a Scout leader i have a lot of experience i have even performed at the albert hall in the london gangshow, so whats the problem??????
well i have been in scouting for 18 years from cubs to then a Scout leader i have a lot of experience i have even performed at the albert hall in the london gangshow, so whats the problem??????
Did your leaders ever attack you in the public press? Would you ever use this forum to name and shame the Scouts in your pack who you disagreed with?
jjc given your previous long service in the Scouts maybe you could help them out and interview bigjjuk as they are obvoiuly struggling to find time themselves, imo with his previous service it looks to me that the current Scouts could learn a lot from him, someone that has been there and done it and is willing to commit to helping the kids develop further gets the thumbs up from me.
If you can't get in touch with him then PM me and I will let him know or get in contact with another Scout PL or Network Scout. Please leave your contact details. You may also wish to take a look at the Wick Scouts section on this site: http://www.caithness.org/community/uniformed/text/scouts_wick.htm
Thanks
imo with his previous service it looks to me that the current Scouts could learn a lot from him, someone that has been there and done it and is willing to commit to helping the kids develop further gets the thumbs up from me.
Agreed. Interview over.
Right Bigjjuk, get your woggle polished up ;)
Firstly this was not the kind of replies I hoped for or expected.
To be honest I expected no replies.
I posted this thread as sections of the Wick Scout Group still require leaders.
I can not comment on either of the posts by, bigjjuk, dirdyweeker and 98elite.
This thread has generated some negativity and I have therefore not helped the Scout Group in anyway.
At this point I would like to state that I am not a Leader and not even a Senior Scout.
However in reply to JJC I will apoligise for the post regarding Robin and Armistice day. I must also say that I didn't mean to publicly disgrace Robin in anyway. Initialy the post was supposed to be taken as a joke and in my post in response to Robin I was probably out of line and should not have suggested that he had no respect.
This post by JJC is therefore unfair towards the Scout Group and should be pointed directly towards myself.
Did your leaders ever attack you in the public press? Would you ever use this forum to name and shame the Scouts in your pack who you disagreed with?
Wick Scout Group provides amazing oppertunites for children in the Wick area. Don't take my word for this though, feel free to ask any other member of the group.
And I would again stress that the Scout Group still requires leaders.
This post by JJC is therefore unfair towards the Scout Group and should be pointed directly towards myself.
Did your leaders ever attack you in the public press? Would you ever use this forum to name and shame the Scouts in your pack who you disagreed with?
Sorry Nospe, I probably didn't make myself clear. The sentiment was directed at you.
What I am trying to point out is that I am neither a Leader or a member of the Group in a descision making position.
Your post suggests that the Leaders and helpers have attacked a member of the Scout Group which is untrue.
It was a Scout making a comment about another Scout. It was in no way representitive of the Scout Group as a whole
macleod_callum
30-Nov-05, 19:18
I will be the first to say that the Scout Group is brilliant. I have been a member of the Scout asscosiation for 11 years now and it has all been great. I know through helping with the Beavers and Cubs that there is a shortage of helpers. The group also requires people who have specialist skills or just people who could give up a couple of hours to help paint the hall, do some plumbing work or help with general maintence. Some of the posts here do the Scout group no favours and are generally unfare towards ther group and its members.
Callum Macleod
Why does some one always lead posts on this site off in another direction. The Scouts need new leaders- OK? Now, don't reply unless you are offering help please or if you have any descent questions.
hi there
I have now been contacted, and i must now reassure everyone that there are very good reasons for not being in contact and people may have made things look worse then they actually should, myself included, and i apologise for that.
hi there
I have now been contacted, and i must now reassure everyone that there are very good reasons for not being in contact and people may have made things look worse then they actually should, myself included, and i apologise for that.
That's great news.
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