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Tugmistress
21-May-08, 06:46
Are you aged between 15 and 30? Do you live in the Highlands and Islands? Thinking of returning or moving to the area for the first time? A new online survey has been launched to discover what the deciding factors are for young people choosing to stay, return or move to the Highlands and Islands. Researchers want to find out what young people think about education, jobs, quality of life and communication in the area. The survey findings will form part of a comprehensive report from HIE into migration choices of people aged 15 to 30 and what policies might be needed to attract and retain more young people in the area.




Survey Here (http://www.hie.co.uk/youth-migration.htm)

George Brims
22-May-08, 01:57
I can barely remember being between 15 and 30 (15 plus 30 gets hard enough). However if that survey is as badly constructed as the last HIE one mentioned on here a couple of weeks back, they aren't going to get much response anyway.

rfr10
22-May-08, 09:03
I seem to get heaps of forwarded emails every day and this survey was forwarded to me last week so I have to say I did complete it there and then. The survey was completable but I wouldn't say it is very young person friendly. Nevertheless, it's now been forwarded to over 100 youth voice members so you'll hopefully get a lot of them completing it.

bill74
23-May-08, 18:46
All 15 to 30 year olds - please go to www.youthmigration.org (http://www.youthmigration.org) to fill in this survey. It's important that there are views captured from young people from all parts of the Highland and Islands, including Caithness, and from outwith the area. Plus you've got a chance of winning a £20 voucher for your troubles.

Cedric Farthsbottom III
23-May-08, 21:24
All 15-30 year olds in Caithness.Why 30?Most folk I've met in ma days know exactly by 25 what they want to do.Thats not just Caithness,but all over.

percy toboggan
23-May-08, 21:59
I'm 57 Cedric and still not sure what I want ' to do '.
I'm not even sure what I've been doing all these years. Since starting work in an office for a multi-national in'67 twenty odd jobs and just a few good uns later ...judged by the company, the craic, the experiences, the travel and the money.
The latter is important...but I probably earned my best ever weekly wage just last week...only about £450 but for forty plus hours of fairly undemanding non-graft, and I was in my own bed every night and home well before tea-time.
Many would look at that packet as a pittance but it'd do me every week I can tell you.I'm lucky...and extra money represents jam on the cake of life. The cake is always enough for me.

It must be really good to have a clear view of what you want 'to do' even better if you have the wherewithal to make it happen. I'm sorry to deflect the thread but your talk of certainty by 25 years of age made me smile Cedric....My Son is now 33 and trucking all over the UK ( Ireland next week)...he's almost drifted into it and makes half as much again as I do...I wish he'd had a clear direction in life but so many don't. At least he's happy...despite my moanings on 'ere I' not unhappy...but no way do I know where I'm goin' Never halve...making a crust has counted yes, but the luxury of doing something I really wanted to do.......mmmm, I think that eludes most of us.

I wish the survey well...The Highlands and Islands deserve to hold on to the their youth...if the authorities need to work harder so to do then I'll shurrup & let them get on with it.

Cedric Farthsbottom III
23-May-08, 22:09
I'm 57 Cedric and still not sure what I want ' to do '.
I'm not even sure what I've been doing all these years. Since starting work in an office for a multi-national in'67 twenty odd jobs and just a few good uns later ...judged by the company, the craic, the experiences, the travel and the money.
The latter is important...but I probably earned my best ever weekly wage just last week...only about £450 but for forty plus hours of fairly undemanding non-graft, and I was in my own bed every night and home well before tea-time.
Many would look at that packet as a pittance but it'd do me every week I can tell you.I'm lucky...and extra money represents jam on the cake of life. The cake is always enough for me.

It must be really good to have a clear view of what you want 'to do' even better if you have the wherewithal to make it happen. I'm sorry to deflect the thread but your talk of certainty by 25 years of age made me smile Cedric....my Son is now 33 and trucking all over the UK & Ireland next week...he's drifted into it and makes half as much again as I do...I wish he'd had a clear direction in life but so many don't. At least he's happy...depsite my moanings on 'ere I' not unhappy...but no way do I know where I'm goin'

I wish the survey well...The Highlands and Islands deserve to hold on to the their youth...if the authorities need to work harder so to do then I'll shurrup & let them get on with it.

25 is what I have experienced.I was 23 when ma life changed.The folk I know who are 25 own their own houses and have good jobs.I was 34 when I bought ma house.This younger generation is more mature than any of us awldies.

percy toboggan
23-May-08, 22:12
...This younger generation is more mature than any of us awldies.

I disagree Cedric.
It's unwise to generalise but anyway your thoughts are fundamentally flawed...at best a contradiction in terms.
Or do you mean the younger generation are more mature than older generations were at their age?
or wot?:confused

Fluff
23-May-08, 22:14
I just hope they listen to the results! If i was actually able to work in my chosen job, I would move back up there. i love my job, but the lack of anything drove me nuts.
It will be a slow change as all the shops are the same, the councilors will need to open their minds if they want people to stop leaving.

Maybe making Wick airport have betters links and cheaper flights would be a start?

Cedric Farthsbottom III
23-May-08, 22:31
I disagree Cedric.
It's unwise to generalise but anyway your thoughts are fundamentally flawed...at best a contradiction in terms.
Or do you mean the younger generation are more mature than older generations were at their age?
or wot?:confused

Contradiction?Why?Ye were 21 when I was born.I'm no better than ye.This young crowd comin up are more mature.They seem to have the grass roots of society more sussed than we did.Its Caithness I'm talking about,not the front page of a newspaper.If ye want to stay in Caithness,ye will,if not ye'll be somewhere else.I was an Ayrshire man,I still am,but I live in Caithness,I love the place.Surveys are statistics,not real life.

percy toboggan
23-May-08, 22:38
I just hope they listen to the results! If i was actually able to work in my chosen job, I would move back up there. i love my job, but the lack of anything drove me nuts.
It will be a slow change as all the shops are the same, the councilors will need to open their minds if they want people to stop leaving.

Maybe making Wick airport have betters links and cheaper flights would be a start?

'The lack of anything' ?
What do you mean Fluff?
'The shops are all the same'? ...how come...
I don't know Caithness intimately but I've spent time there.
I've also had a couple of nights and few more days in Reading. Lots of shops but they're all selling stuff too. Who needs it?

Fluff
23-May-08, 22:47
It feels like if you are happy to sit in and do nothing, or go out drinking,it is fine percy. But I find everything the same, all the shops (how many bakerys, chemists and bleedin charity shops are there!) The clothes shops, all sell the same type of clothes etc..
Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of fantastic places/shops there too I love to visit.

To me, it feels stuck in the past to a certain degree but it has gotten so much better too.

Cedric Farthsbottom III
23-May-08, 22:57
Stuck in the past.What Caithness?At least live in a place wi a bit o history.Ma son knows more about the herring industry in Wick than I do,he knows more Wick history than I do.I've been in the place 12 years more than him,he knows more about Caithness than me.

percy toboggan
23-May-08, 23:22
Stuck in the past.What Caithness?At least live in a place wi a bit o history.Ma son knows more about the herring industry in Wick than I do,he knows more Wick history than I do.I've been in the place 12 years more than him,he knows more about Caithness than me.

You might be inadvertently proving Fluff's point here.
How long does it take to learn about the Herring industry worldwide?...let alone in Wick?
Good luck to your boy and his interests but...
...do you think Berkshire a history free zone Cedric?

Cedric Farthsbottom III
23-May-08, 23:52
You might be inadvertently proving Fluff's point here.
How long does it take to learn about the Herring industry worldwide?...let alone in Wick?
Good luck to your boy and his interests but...
...do you think Berkshire a history free zone Cedric?

I couldnae give a pink shrimp about Berkshire.If ma young guys know about Caithness history their enjoying their school.Ma youngest took his first stroll oot to the auld man of Wick and thought it was brilliant.

rfr10
24-May-08, 18:59
I think you'll find a lot of information here
http://www.highlandyouthvoice.org/Default.aspx.LocID-01ynew006.RefLocID-04n007.Lang-EN.htm

bill74
17-Jun-08, 13:10
The migration study at www.youthmigration.org (http://www.youthmigration.org) will be closing soon. Are you aged between 15 to 30 and not had your say yet?

Don't miss your chance - logon to www.youthmigration.org (http://www.youthmigration.org) and complete the short survey and tell us what's great and what's not so great about living in Caithness.

Remember, you don't need to live locally at the moment to have your say - we want to know what people from elsewhere in Scotland and abroad think as well.

TBH
17-Jun-08, 13:19
Caithness is becoming God's waiting room for our friends from the south, not an attractive proposition for any 15-30 year olds. Young people are the life-blood of any community and caithness has nothing to offer them to stay and nothing to attract youngsters from other communities to move here.

sweetpea
17-Jun-08, 16:36
It's a bit of a double edged sword because in ways if you asked people into their twenties and working hard and playing hard south in big cities if they got the chance would they move home here then I'd say a lot would say yes, that ideally if they could they would love the lifestyle. Or maybe the jobs aren't on offer up here or they think they can't afford to move back. Yet what I don't get is that we have hardly any specialised heath professionals and jobs in other things, public sector care and so on.
The shops thing doesn't interest me but if you could bring some of the city culture into Caithness it would be great, like if your on your lunch in a city you can choose from a wide range of things like the gym, a nosey round a gallery, cafe culture and stuff like that.
I always think the education slant should tell them this sort of thing in school and where the job shortages are and what's needed up here in case people want to not go away in the first place or return.