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hi i have heard a romour goin about that Mr Inkster from Thurso high school is leaving. And that the new principle is making us wear school uniforms could anyone give me anymore information on is this true?
why dont you go to the school office and ask on Monday morning?
no way i dont like the receptionist she will freak or summit
i hope they dont bring uniforms out but if they do i only have to wear it untill may.
I want to stay on but i dont think they will let me but if they bring out uniforms then i will be leaving straight away and heading to aberdeen.
Do you know if Aberdeen has to wear school uniforms????
dirdyweeker
12-Nov-05, 21:06
Aberdeen schools certainly do wear uniforms. The girls at one school that I know of wear kilts as part of their uniform! Must admit it looks nice to see them all dressed alike. In most organisations nowadays a uniform is worn so why not school. As far as I know all Caithness primary schools wear uniform so the pupils are already used to them before they transfer to High school. We wore them in the 60's in Wick!!
cool kilts wow wot high school is that i think i might go to it.
Is it a nice school??
God sandie you are gurning that Thurso are going to be having a uniform but you dont mind wearing a kilt - the uniform in Thurso might be a kilt - and if it is the sandie i think you are you'd be better wearing a uniform - the clothes you wear is WAY WAY over the top - :D if you had seen her you would of been in stiches!!! lol
sandie i left in 2001 and there were god knows how many times they asked us about what we thought about uniforms. at one time they asked us what we would wear.
ask your guidence teacher.
a uniform shouldnt make too much differnce to your work, if you are willing to leave school over that, it sounds like you are making excuses.
Sorry sandie but all schools in Aberdeen wear uniforms the one with kilts is St margretts, a public catholic school. St Albyns wear green with boaters might look good but its cold in winter when you cannot wear coat over your blazer.even primarys wear uniforms. speaking as a parent now I wish the schools did have uniforms as this deffinatly brings some form of school pride out in pupils and there is less bullying when everyone is dressed the same no designer lables
To be quite honest about i think school uniforms is a good idea and there smart.The big problem when your a teenager is everyone is trying to have the latest trend in cloths so u look cool but expensive for your parents and the kids that cant afford designer label cloths has more a chance of getting picked on through no fault of theres because there parents cant afford designer labels.Thats why if everyone wears a uniform its cheaper in the long run for parents and the kids that cant or are not allowed designer labels dont feel out of place or picked on.
To be honest about school uniforms are a lot smarter.
The only other i would say is that if you's are getting uniforms you should ask the headteaher if the pupils of the school can get some form of say over the type of unifom to wear
The only other i would say is that if you's are getting uniforms you should ask the headteaher if the pupils of the school can get some form of say over the type of unifom to wear
yeah i know, We are getting to pick there colours and it all is ment to be when we get our new head teacher, But that is only a romour
sandie i left in 2001 and there were god knows how many times they asked us about what we thought about uniforms. at one time they asked us what we would wear.
ask your guidence teacher.
a uniform shouldnt make too much differnce to your work, if you are willing to leave school over that, it sounds like you are making excuses.
no that aint only the reason i wont be aloud staying on because i am hardly there
As far as I'm aware, headteachers can't just make uniforms compulsory.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please
yeah you are right but they are ment to be out after x-mas they will manage it.
I think your missing the point Sandie. What I'm saying is, that it isn't up to the headteacher
ahh i get you now i am soo happy now thanks.
Mr P Cannop
13-Nov-05, 17:53
I think your missing the point Sandie. What I'm saying is, that it isn't up to the headteacher
who is it up to then ??
I personally think that school uniforms are a good idea, for one it saves parents forking out alot of money to keep their kids up with the trends and two it might stop people being bullied because of what they are wearing...?
God sandie you are gurning that Thurso are going to be having a uniform but you dont mind wearing a kilt - the uniform in Thurso might be a kilt - and if it is the sandie i think you are you'd be better wearing a uniform - the clothes you wear is WAY WAY over the top - :D if you had seen her you would of been in stiches!!! lol
what do you mean sandie wears funny and horrible clothes what are they like?
If you think hers is way way over the top then you should see you.
If this is who i think it is at least i dont wear a rubbish pair of shorts with a horrible white vest rubbish sandals and a rangers cap.
no affence but who is funnier eh
I personally think that school uniforms are a good idea, for one it saves parents forking out alot of money to keep their kids up with the trends and two it might stop people being bullied because of what they are wearing...?
yeah i highly agree with you.
I mean its not only school kids that makes fun o you.
Look at the last couple off post and see what big g has been saying it's umbelievable and i dont even think its up to him what i wear!!!!!
what do you mean sandie wears funny and horrible clothes what are they like?
If you think hers is way way over the top then you should see you.
If this is who i think it is at least i dont wear a rubbish pair of shorts with a horrible white vest rubbish sandals and a rangers cap.
no affence but who is funnier eh
well it might help if i wore that!! haha:D
motopitcrew
14-Nov-05, 09:43
its up to the school board to make desitions on uniform not the head
i dont agree with them personaly
the world war was faught to give us freedom ie the right to think for ourselves
and make desitions on what to say,do and wear
sounds like this new head thinks he is hitler but he was defeted and will be again
i wont buy school uniforms for my kids and no upstart headmaster will make me
greeneyes
14-Nov-05, 10:28
I think school uniform is a good idea but only to a certain a degree,i wouldn't want blazers etc but maybe just like the primary schools ie jeans/blk trousers and a school jumper and t-shirt, this uniform when worn by all looks just as good things and are in most peoples price range,if you go down the route of blazers,shirt'n'tie etc theses have to be ordered from specialist shops and cost a fortune,now i know so do all those designer gear but the majorty are maybe buying from mackays,macallans etc and can them wear outside school hours.
its up to the school board to make desitions on uniform not the head
i dont agree with them personaly
the world war was faught to give us freedom ie the right to think for ourselves
and make desitions on what to say,do and wear
sounds like this new head thinks he is hitler but he was defeted and will be again
i wont buy school uniforms for my kids and no upstart headmaster will make me
And we onder why some kids have a problem with authority
Murdina Bug
14-Nov-05, 17:16
Good comment Scotsboy - I was flummoxed as to how to respond to an attitude like that! (By the way motopitcrew, those troops fighting for our freedom wore uniforms and were proud to do so)
motopitcrew
14-Nov-05, 17:42
those troops chose to wear the uniform and i dont have a problem with authority
but i do have a problem with dictators you must conform who do they think they are THIS IS GREAT BRITIAN and not red china
freedom of choice was faught for and won dont trash what my and your ancestors faught and died for
So when the School Board insrutuct you to get your kids togged up you will do so...........now tell me how different is that than the Headmaster doing it?
It seems from your post that your mind has been made up, maybe I am wrong. But what is the problem with kids having to wear School Uniform?
motopitcrew
14-Nov-05, 18:38
even children have rights and enforcing sutch a outdated form of clothing is a breach of my childrens human rights just the same as you telling me that i have no right to have a opinion
i will fight for my childrens rights and you or any other CONFORMIST (posh word for weakling) WONT STOP ME
Naefearjustbeer
14-Nov-05, 18:42
I have mixed feelings about School uniforms. It gets rid of the Brand name labels and gets rid of the bullying on kids who cannot afford to wear the latest gear. I suppose if you have a strong school identity it gives the kids something to wear with pride (maybe more appropriate in private schools) I don't think the school kids up here have that sort of school pride. It also makes skivers stand out more if they are skipping class, with some of the older kids it is hard to tell how old they are these days.
School uniforms can be pricey especially if you have a squad o bairns to clothe each term. but then again waring a uniform to school means that good clothes are kept good.
I would of hated to be uniformed when I went to school but looking at the kids who do wear uniform to primary schools it does make the look smart. It would also stop the little girls getting dressed up like catwalk models and showing more flesh than is decent. But that is the problem of the parents, If they bought decent clothes for the kids in the first place it wouldnt be a problem. I am undecided as it has good and bad points.
One thing I do think is that the school should have the power to decide. Teachers are undermined all the time and dont have the power they need to control what goes on in schools these days. So many times a bad child will get in trouble at school and the parent comes in raging how dare you give my little jonny into trouble. With little jonny sitting smug in the fact that mummy and daddy are on his side no matter what he does. In my day if I got in trouble at school it was doubled at home. That made me behave at school because I knew i would be for it at home. If I had a pound for every time my mum quoted "If you fly with the crows you get shot with the crows" when I tried to wriggle out on any trouble I was involved in. The whole place is going to the dogs because of the PC brigade. Bring back the belt and sort out the unruly lot and if the parents dont back up the school they should be taken to task aswell.
Murdina Bug
14-Nov-05, 21:04
You have every right to your opinion motopitcrew, as do we. If we happen to think your views are a bit off the scale then that does not constitute a breach of your human rights!!!
I am genuinely curious here - would you tell your boss to get stuffed if he gives you a direct order that you don't like? What is it about one person being in charge that offends you so much? How do you think respect and discipline can be encouraged in schools unless a chain of command e.g. headteacher/teacher/pupil is maintained?
its up to the school board to make desitions on uniform not the head
i dont agree with them personaly
the world war was faught to give us freedom ie the right to think for ourselves
and make desitions on what to say,do and wear
sounds like this new head thinks he is hitler but he was defeted and will be again
i wont buy school uniforms for my kids and no upstart headmaster will make me
i guess you think that jobs that require uniforms, workers should not be made to wear them? what about dressing smartly for certain occasions, ie funerals, weddings. they may not be forced but it is socially frowned apon not too.
rules are for reasons, and these are not absurd difficult to follow ones
choose too surley not all the troops.. ever heard of the draft?
a lot of soldiers never had the choice but to go to war.. cant name a single person that would willingly kill and risk being killed..
dont confuse wars where super powers command the common man to fight .. when most of them do not understand what they are fighting for but just following orders.. the majority of the german soldiers did not want to fight and kill and commit genicide but they had no choice..
this is also a far cry from children wearing uniforms.
i wish we had had uniforms when i was in high school
less kids would have been stabbed for a pair of shoes or a jacket..
uniforms while conformist also add a valuable commodity
children can pay more attention to their studies instread of fretting what to wear to school. parents saves loads of money..
which then can be spent on more important things than the lastest fad for their spoilt teen.. disadvantaged children wont be ridiculed over their attire..
and the best part they can take them off after school!
and save their good clothes for going out.
oh and one more thing
isnt their already a dress code?
i mean ...surley girls are not allowed to wear belly tops and low riders or mini skirts to school?
and boys cant wear hats or offensive tops?
do you think that because this is a "free" country they should be allowed to wear disrespectful and indecent clothing to school?
motopitcrew
14-Nov-05, 22:22
look i dont care what any one thinks of my opinion its my opinion
as for funerals i wear what i like and never black the respect comes from your feelings not your clothes as for clothing at work certain things are worn for health & safety reasons not because some boss thinks you should & i have never heard of any one being stabed in thurso high for any reason
motopictcrew you must be the best parent in the world????
If you were i would never of got that grounding for being drunk at 15, breach of childrens right that, mind you it was my 18th before i dared drink again.
I would never of got that clip round the ear for stealing pic and mix from woolies, child abuse that never mind a breach of human rights, but hey ive got a clean record i bet if you were my parent i would never been alloud the detention i got for buying my teacher head and shoulders for xmass, he was bald nor got the belt for skiving i asure you i never ever did either again.
My point is we are talking about school uniform here not,a communist regeime if school uniform is made compulsory at thurso high then fine my kids will wear it.they will follow the rules in school as they do at home as this will prepare them for the big bad world.
I bet i can guess your age, i bet you are still wearing you sex pistols t-shirt
motopitcrew
14-Nov-05, 23:22
you guessed wrong and my kids will never wear a school uniform nobody can or will tell me how to spend my money or how to dress my kids. and if my kids do wrong they get punnished . and just because you misstreted your teachers and shoplifted well it says a lot about your caracter . i have never stole or abused teachers and if my kids do and get a detention for it let them take it. but the wearing of a uniform wont stop it
may i ask moto what will happen if the school do introduce the uniforms? will you pull you kids out?
btw, just because you do stupid stuff growing up does not necessarily mean you will always grow up to be a bad person. I did some stupid things in my teens, got taught life lessons and I am a responable adult.
OH DEAR YOU MISSED THE POINT.
The wearing of school uniform does not make for perfectly behaved children nor does it mean all the problems in our schools will magicly dissapear,but what it does do is install a sence of unity between all children who go to the school, they may all love it they may all hate it but the fact is their in it to-gether and no one is the odd one out. I was one of these kids in a kilt standing at an aberdeen bus stop i hated wearing my uniform but i wore it and was proud of my school. Not one person in my 11 years there was ever bullied because they looked different dont get me wrong there was bullying as in every school but if you take away one main cause then that has to be a good thing. Answer me one thing when and if every child in thurso high is dressed in there new uniform except yours what do you realy think will happen to them.you also mention the price of uniforms but personaly i found my self in asda during the hollidays whishing my kids wore uniforms where i could buy a school skirt for £3.50
porshiepoo
14-Nov-05, 23:44
I can see both sides to this cos my kids had to wear uniform in England but don't have to now.
In England there seemed to be so much more rivalry with regards to who had what latest name brand on so yes, the uniform was so much easier. Plus they get to save their good clothes.
Here though they don't have to wear it and they prefer that. Neither of them has ever moaned for name brands (not even in England) and don't particularly care what others wear.
In England it was also done so that kids could be identified outside of school at lunch times etc. If they caused trouble in town etc they were more easily identifiable due to their uniform but we don't have that need here as theres only one high school in Thurso and one in Wick. (I think)
If there was more than one high scool in those areas then it could benefit for the same reason.
Hopefully Motopitcrew’s children will pay more attention in school than he/she did whether wearing school uniform or not.
motopitcrew
15-Nov-05, 09:38
what makes you think that i never payed atention at school i did verry well at school. and a uniform will never stop bullying and wont make everyone look the same due to the fact that we live in a mixed race society and you dont have to look verry hard to find racial abuse how will a uniform stop this .
and what uniform do the teachers wear they are the scruffest looking bunch i have ever seen most dont even wash . my kids go to school well dressed and clean what more is needed
what makes you think that i never payed atention at school i did verry well at school. and a uniform will never stop bullying and wont make everyone look the same due to the fact that we live in a mixed race society and you dont have to look verry hard to find racial abuse how will a uniform stop this .
and what uniform do the teachers wear they are the scruffest looking bunch i have ever seen most dont even wash . my kids go to school well dressed and clean what more is needed
wearing a school uniform will not stop kid's bullying, i have to agree with a few of motopitcrew's view's, we are in a mixed race society and just because all kid's would be wearing uniforms won't stop the bully's getting there kick's, bully's will pick on you because of your hair style etc, if it is made compulsory to wear a uniform i'm talking full blazer etc then i will not be making my kid's wear it, i agree that some of the dress sense should be banned, crop/low top's, inaproperate wording on tops, i would agree to send my children to school in plain top's,jeans. do what the primary schools do, kid's have to wear a polo-shirt and a jumper with the school logo, then kid's can wear their jeans.
Karaoke Queen
15-Nov-05, 11:57
Primary School kids do not HAVE to wear uniform. They are encouraged to do so.
Why would you want to see crop tops, slogan t shirts banned then? Whats the difference between that and not allowing your kids to wear a blazer etc?
my kids go to school well dressed and clean what more is needed
An open mind.
Karaoke Queen
15-Nov-05, 12:00
and what uniform do the teachers wear they are the scruffest looking bunch i have ever seen most dont even wash . my kids go to school well dressed and clean what more is needed
Pray tell me, how it is you know that most of the teachers don't even wash????
Naefearjustbeer
15-Nov-05, 14:49
Primary School kids do not HAVE to wear uniform. They are encouraged to do so.
Why would you want to see crop tops, slogan t shirts banned then? Whats the difference between that and not allowing your kids to wear a blazer etc?
cannot believe some one could ask such a silly question. It is quite obvious what the difference is and if you cant see it, that is part of the problem and a good reason to enforce dress codes at schools.
cannot believe some one could ask such a silly question. It is quite obvious what the difference is and if you cant see it, that is part of the problem and a good reason to enforce dress codes at schools.
exactly,how can someone not see the difference,:confused:
As far as I can make out, Karaoke Queen was asking why geezer was so keen to impose one rule (the banning of crop tops etc) but was unhappy with the putative imposition of another (compulsory blazers). That's all, I think...
It's usually not advisable to be quite so presumptuous on public forums such as this.
Pray tell me, how it is you know that most of the teachers don't even wash???? Perhaps he's the rector?
I agree with whoever it was who said unifirms don't stop bullying - who remembers Gripper Stebson from Grange Hill? He was a right bully and he wore a uniform. he doctored his blazer by giving it the "Cantona Collar" before Cantona made it famous. It was probably called a Shakin Stevens collar back then. But became the Cantina Collar once Shaken Stevens discredited it by getting lifted for drinking and driving.
Anyway - I digress. If Grange Hill is anything to go by, Uniforms cause more trouble than they are worth.
If teachers do wash less than the average punter, can you imagine what a French teacher smells like?
(one who lives in France as opposed to one who teaches French - the French are notorious for being pretty slack on the uptake when it comes to buying personal hygiene products).
Is that what gives their food such flavour?
Speaking of rectors, I see that THS are advertising for a new Rector (http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?p=34585#post34585). I think we have some strong candidates on this thread. Go for it guys -- test out your theories on the next generation.
Come to think of it, I quite fancy the job myself. I'd soon sort out the little horrors. There'd be smart uniforms with highly-polished shoes, and capital punishment for anyone who steps out of line.
The salary's not too bad either, it's probably more than you'd get stacking shelves at the new Tesco.
And I wouldn't have to wash either. Bliss...
Aye, ye should apply, doc! Rector Szin has a nice ring to it! I can choost aboot imagine ye in a black robe lek Rector Young and Bat Wifie wore! An' wi' a guid salary lek 'at, ye could buy Viewfirth an' save it fae the demolition squad, could ye no? ;)
Primary School kids do not HAVE to wear uniform. They are encouraged to do so.
Why would you want to see crop tops, slogan t shirts banned then? Whats the difference between that and not allowing your kids to wear a blazer etc?
i did not say primary school kids did have to wear a school uniform, I SAID
'they have to wear a polo shirt and the school jumper' they can and do wear jeans,trainers etc.
i would like to see crop tops/low tops and offensive t-shirts banned as you will find wick/thurso high school requested the parent's discourage the wearing of such clothing.
my veiw as you obviously read me wrong was why does'nt the school make it a policy for them to wear polo-shirt's and a jumper with a school logo, it is then for the child to choose wether they want to wear jeans or trouser's.
moose and Lindsay
16-Nov-05, 11:10
Thurso high school did try to get the kids to wear uniform a couple of years ago
It was white shirt, red and black tie, black trousers and black fleece
I bought my daughter it all to wear to school and she looked smart, but she was the only one wearing it and her fleece got stolen, so she never wore the uniform again after about a week coz no-one else was wearing it, just her, i wasn't happy!!
I grew up in England wearing a uniform til i went to wick high in 4th year and i prefer the uniform!!
Even in the kids school photo's it looks nicer when all the kids r in uniform
white shirt, red and black tie
I thought the THS colours were Grey and red? Have they changed?
moose and Lindsay
16-Nov-05, 11:19
Must of, coz it was definately black and red
My middle son goes to Culloden Academy. they have introduced a uniform ove the last couple of years starting it as a "dress code". Before the children came back from summer holiday all the parents were sent letters throught he post explainng that the dress code was complusory and that children would be sent home for not wearing it.
Initially my boy wore it then he said he was hte only one in his friends so i phoned the school and asked them what they were doing. I will make him wear it but not if others are not being made to adhere to it. I told them that we parents who are trying to make sure the kids wear it need the school to be strict too. Once they started sending kids home my boy very quickly stopped kicking up a fuss and now the whole school wears it.
It looks good, smart and sensible. ITs simply black trousers, Black sweatshirts and white black or purple t shirts or shirts. The kids look good - i think it works well. when you work often you cant wear what you want even if you dont have a "uniform"
People in offices and shops have a dress code, builders have to wear safety boots and hats and overalls, its a good lesson for kids to learn what is appropriate and whats not
The Pepsi Challenge
16-Nov-05, 14:40
My thoughts: Come As You Are.
My middle son goes to Culloden Academy. they have introduced a uniform ove the last couple of years starting it as a "dress code". Before the children came back from summer holiday all the parents were sent letters throught he post explainng that the dress code was complusory and that children would be sent home for not wearing it.
Initially my boy wore it then he said he was hte only one in his friends so i phoned the school and asked them what they were doing. I will make him wear it but not if others are not being made to adhere to it. I told them that we parents who are trying to make sure the kids wear it need the school to be strict too. Once they started sending kids home my boy very quickly stopped kicking up a fuss and now the whole school wears it.
It looks good, smart and sensible. ITs simply black trousers, Black sweatshirts and white black or purple t shirts or shirts. The kids look good - i think it works well. when you work often you cant wear what you want even if you dont have a "uniform"
People in offices and shops have a dress code, builders have to wear safety boots and hats and overalls, its a good lesson for kids to learn what is appropriate and whats not
As always Squidge a sensible and well though out thread. I have worn a uniform of some kind most of my formative Life for age 12 at school ( yes we did have schools in my day and yes I started at West Public wi a slate and chalk), but the most useless piece of uniform apparell it the TIE!!!!! I hate them, they keep nothing closed or hold anything up, convetion states that a man without a tie is not "Dressed" nonsense. Because I dont deem to wear a bitty cloot round my neck does not make me an ill mannered lout
The Pepsi Challenge
16-Nov-05, 17:01
"Don't kid yourself - we're all wearing a uniform, every day, all the time."
Frank Zappaa
Personally, I think school uniforms would be a great idea. I left school for Uni three years ago and you meet so many people that really loved their uniforms and they were all pretty decent too. Student's should probably get a say on what type of uniform they wear - but the uniform idea as a step forward.
As for Mr. Inkster leaving, that's an aweful shame, but maybe those legs are getting too wearing to teach Advanced Maths these days. I had him for Advanced Higher in 6th year and he was an awesome teacher, he actually made maths bearable - something I can't say some previous Maths teachers I had did.
Still though, uniforms, good idea, the school kids will rebel at first but I think they will come round to them given time, in hindsight, i would have prefered a school uniform. Like someone said before - it instills a sense of school pride and looks better when students go off on school sports trips etc
The Pepsi Challenge
16-Nov-05, 21:03
Yes, as an aside, John Inkster was one of the finest people in the teaching profession I've ever come across. He made learning fun, could relate to every level of the social spectrum, was a great laugh at the lunch-time football games, and a witty guy to boot. He hasn't had it easy at Thurso High, but it will be to the school's loss that he shall be retiring. Johnny, if you're reading, best o' luck to you.
those troops chose to wear the uniform and i dont have a problem with authority
but i do have a problem with dictators you must conform who do they think they are THIS IS GREAT BRITIAN and not red china
freedom of choice was faught for and won dont trash what my and your ancestors faught and died for
Your ancestors also "fought" for education everyone to have the right to an education.
Using a uniform makes that easier on many levels. Also it avoids truancy ( easier to identify a teenager skipping school if he on the street in his uniform in school hours). Identifying a pupil to a certain school will also help with anti-social behaviour. And as many have said before, cliques, gangs and such will not be as strongly expressed, diminuishing the associated negative behaviour.
Unless you are unlike everyone in GREAT BRITAIN, you have a code of behaviour that you abide by, you have a time table that you adhere to and you know the consequences of infringing rules or laws. Your ancestors "fought" for this order that gives you the comfortable life you live. But you have it at the cost of complying with what is accepted in your society. This is a type of uniform as well. Don't forget it.
Your freedom begins where someone else's ends
The Pepsi Challenge
16-Nov-05, 21:32
Dunno if I'd like to enter your nightclub wearing the wrong clobber, _JU_, but very well put nonetheless. Should I fold my tie this way or that way?
I had to wear a tie for 6 years ( shool uniform), an still can', for the lif of me tie its knot. The seret, Pespsi, is to getsomeone who knows how to tie it and then NEVER undo it: just loosen it to take it off!!! ;-)
The way that some of the teachers at THS are talking I'm thinking that the uniforms are going to be coming out.
I have Mr McKesick for Maths and he seems to give you a feeling that it is going to happen by the way he talks about it when someone brings it up.
It's sad to see Mr Inkster leave as he is a good Head teacher, but I might not be around school long enough to have to wear uniforms so I couldn't care less really.
Even if I am at school it's only a uniform, nothing that will effect us too badly just as long as we can undo the shirt collars.
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