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justine
18-Mar-08, 22:29
What is it that decides wether a prisoner is given bail or kept on remand...I ask this simply as i am starting to wonder...
Two examples...

1 man on remand for the kidnap of shannon mathews,rightly so...

2nd man a officer who kills his wife gets bail and then kills his mother-in-law, whilst out on it.then himself.......Now i would have thought if you get someone who has just murdered someone then they would automatically be remanded, but it seems times have changed... :confused

herenow
18-Mar-08, 23:03
Good post! i have no idea what decides if you get bail or not but here is an example i know of a woman get raped in her own home in a
vilage, she reports it to the police and the man (from the same vilage is caught) he gets bail.

What is that about! maybe its just me but what do you think is going through his head! might i add he has spent time in jail for rape before!! He may have the attitude "well im going to jail anyway so i might aswell keep braking the law"

why give them the chance to have this attitude!!

DeHaviLand
18-Mar-08, 23:03
He wasn't found guilty of killing his wife, only charged with the offence.
Bail is entirely at the discretion of the presiding magistrate/judge, although there are loose guidelines.

justine
18-Mar-08, 23:18
He wasn't found guilty of killing his wife, only charged with the offence.
Bail is entirely at the discretion of the presiding magistrate/judge, although there are loose guidelines.


Ok so he was charged in connection with her murder, given bail, why because he was a policeman, i dont know..How many suspected murders get bail...
But then he goes on to kill his MIL and supposedly going onto kill more of his family, but someone did let him out...Why

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1309664,00.html

MadPict
18-Mar-08, 23:32
This simplified explanation may help...
http://www.andrewgray.uklinux.net/legalsupport/procedures2.html

justine
18-Mar-08, 23:36
This simplified explanation may help...
http://www.andrewgray.uklinux.net/legalsupport/procedures2.html


thanks for the simplified version but i can read material thats harder and more legal...

not quite lost my marbles yet.....But imo i just thought that suspected murders would be remanded for fear of flight. or reoffending, but obviously my thoughts were wrong....

MadPict
18-Mar-08, 23:42
OoooOOOooooo.......

Angel
18-Mar-08, 23:57
it's who you know... like everything else....

justine
19-Mar-08, 00:11
But that still leaves the question how did he get bail....and it seems this is a question being asked by all....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7303221.stm

dook
19-Mar-08, 21:59
But that still leaves the question how did he get bail....and it seems this is a question being asked by all....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7303221.stm

Maybe the Court has the full circumstances and not by misinformed sensationalism released by the media that is picked up by the easily lead?

sweetpea
19-Mar-08, 23:18
Don't know how it works accross the UK but up here it basically depends on what mood the PF and beak are in at the given time.

hotrod4
20-Mar-08, 07:45
Slightly off thread but have noticed in the court that people on "curfew" have broken them then been bailed and placed on "curfew" again.
Thought if you broke the curfew then it was the clink?
If you can break the curfew then what good is it having it in the first place?

Bring back the birch for persistent offenders and stick "street fighter" in a strait jacket in a padded cell with nothing but a mirror for company, he can challenge himself all day long(without hurting himself)and leave everyone else to get on with their life!!!! :)

philupmaboug
20-Mar-08, 09:48
Think the reason he got bail was some relation/friend was a top barrister/judge and he vouched for him.....mistake or what!

justine
20-Mar-08, 11:33
Think the reason he got bail was some relation/friend was a top barrister/judge and he vouched for him.....mistake or what!
If so then maybe they should be brought before a stupid mistakes panel.....:lol: