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hotrod4
17-Feb-08, 11:46
While having a debate with Mrs Hotrod we discussed nessie.
I believe, she doesnt, interested as to the opinion on the .org.
Does she or doesnt she exist? (nessie, not mrs hotrod!)

ett23
17-Feb-08, 11:52
Nope I think it's all a myth - good hype to get tourists in!:lol:

brandy
17-Feb-08, 12:11
i do in some shape or form. what she really is though now thats the question.

justine
17-Feb-08, 12:25
Maybe some years ago something swam into the loch and then either managed to get out or died, but there aint no nessie down there..It has now become a long standing myth that attracts visitors to the area every year.I wish it was true because it sure would be a sight to behold, but unfortunaelty not...IMHO anyway..

I me4an they have a nessie in america.The americans have now realised that it makes money to have a creature at the bottom of the lake.......

golach
17-Feb-08, 12:25
i do in some shape or form. what she really is though now thats the question.
LOL, Is Nessie female? I wish I knew [lol]

floyed
17-Feb-08, 12:32
Maybe some years ago something swam into the loch and then either managed to get out or died, but there aint no nessie down there..It has now become a long standing myth that attracts visitors to the area every year.I wish it was true because it sure would be a sight to behold, but unfortunaelty not...IMHO anyway..

I me4an they have a nessie in america.The americans have now realised that it makes money to have a creature at the bottom of the lake.......



I agree i think there might of been something there years ago but definetly not now. If there was something there they would of found it by now with all the technology we have.

justine
17-Feb-08, 12:36
I agree i think there might of been something there years ago but definetly not now. If there was something there they would of found it by now with all the technology we have.

Great minds think alike there Floyed. With all that underwater sonar and radar i am sure that they would have found this 30-50 ft long creature some where in the loch.They did manage to find new underwater caverns at the east side of the loch but nothing else..I am madly into myths and legends and anything else that has not been proved. I wish there was a nessie and i dont doubt people have seen something in the last centuary but not now....
There are no enough fish in the loch now to keep something that big alive.It would have perished along time ago.....

hotrod4
17-Feb-08, 12:36
"she" definitely exists, why only the other night she was round for tea with elvis and marilyn monroe!! :)
I defo think there is something there, it would be hard to find her as the loch is so deep and murky even with the technology we have it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Wife thinks I'm bonkers but she is there if only i could prove it.................

justine
17-Feb-08, 12:38
"she" definitely exists, why only the other night she was round for tea with elvis and marilyn monroe!! :)
I defo think there is something there, it would be hard to find her as the loch is so deep and murky even with the technology we have it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Wife thinks I'm bonkers but she is there if only i could prove it.................

Was that when they met up with hitler in his bomber..........

Thumper
17-Feb-08, 12:40
Of course she exists...I was married to her son so I should know ;) x

golach
17-Feb-08, 12:41
. I wish there was a nessie and i dont doubt people have seen something in the last centuary but not now....
There are no enough fish in the loch now to keep something that big alive.It would have perished along time ago.....
LOl Justine, you believe in Ghosties, but not Nessie, awe come on [lol]

justine
17-Feb-08, 12:46
LOl Justine, you believe in Ghosties, but not Nessie, awe come on [lol]

I did not say that i dont believe in her i said she does not exist anymore.That creature or whatever it was that was spotted so many years ago aint there now...

Maybe i should believe in the ghostie of nessie.........:lol:

floyed
17-Feb-08, 12:49
Maybe i should believe in the ghostie of nessie.........:lol:[/quote]



Im for believing in the ghost of nessie! That must be what everyone has been seeing and why the technology we have cant find her lol:lol:

silverfox57
17-Feb-08, 12:57
While having a debate with Mrs Hotrod we discussed nessie.
I believe, she doesnt, interested as to the opinion on the .org.
Does she or doesnt she exist? (nessie, not mrs hotrod!)
I to not believe in nessie?maybe with a few drams, or a full moon some may see nessie,:lol:

router
17-Feb-08, 12:58
if there is such a thing as nessie there is no way any animal could exist for this amount of time unless it is blessed with immortality.all just a rouse to keep the tourists flocking in...........

DeHaviLand
17-Feb-08, 13:14
if there is such a thing as nessie there is no way any animal could exist for this amount of time unless it is blessed with immortality.all just a rouse to keep the tourists flocking in...........

And she'll be due her annual sighting in the next 6 weeks, just in time for the start of the tourist season ;). Strange eh?:roll:

nanoo
17-Feb-08, 13:17
Of course she exists...I was married to her son so I should know ;) xFunny you should say that Thumper, I was just thinking the same thing myself.:lol: Seriously though folks, i believe there was something there and because of that, there always will be.

northener
17-Feb-08, 13:31
Pah! A pox on you doubters.

I voted yes with my heart, but my head says no.

I sincerely hope there is a Nessie. And I sincerely hope she or he is never found.

.

justine
17-Feb-08, 14:49
Funny you should say that Thumper, I was just thinking the same thing myself.:lol: Seriously though folks, i believe there was something there and because of that, there always will be.


Youre right there nanoo, it will always exist in the minds and hearts of people and for generations to come.The question will always be unanswered....
Unless someone comes up with something that can proove otherwise....

young_fishin_neep
17-Feb-08, 14:56
I will always beleive in Nessie, me mum and dad went on the caley cruisers trip and our boat had a sonar and fish finder on it and we were right in the middle of loch ness and all of a sudden the sonar and the fish finder said we were a couple of feet of the bottom we didnt have a clue how that could be as we were in the middle of the loch, this lasted a wee while then all of a sudden it droped back down to realy deep again, our only explination is nessie was under us, if it wasnt for this happening i wouldnt beleive in nessie.


kazzii xxxx

justine
17-Feb-08, 14:59
Maybe i should believe in the ghostie of nessie.........:lol:



Im for believing in the ghost of nessie! That must be what everyone has been seeing and why the technology we have cant find her lol:lol:[/quote]

Right again floyed.We are doing it wrong. We need to bring in the paranormal specialists and their gear to find her....The witnesses who ahve seen her that they see a shadowy figure in the distance. well thats the reason, she is a ghost..

Dusty
17-Feb-08, 15:56
Right again floyed.We are doing it wrong. We need to bring in the paranormal specialists and their gear to find her....The witnesses who ahve seen her that they see a shadowy figure in the distance. well thats the reason, she is a ghost..

Oh no, not Most Haunted Underwater!

justine
17-Feb-08, 16:10
Oh no, not Most Haunted Underwater!

SSHH,We could get the rights to a tv programme and make ourselves a fortune............

Highland Laddie
17-Feb-08, 16:17
Im for believing in the ghost of nessie! That must be what everyone has been seeing and why the technology we have cant find her lol:lol:
[/quote]

Ah but is technology that far advanced,
i mean to say, aren't we struggling to replace petrol/diesel with a sustainable alternative.

TBH
17-Feb-08, 16:46
While having a debate with Mrs Hotrod we discussed nessie.
I believe, she doesnt, interested as to the opinion on the .org.
Does she or doesnt she exist? (nessie, not mrs hotrod!)Nobody can say it does, nobody can say it doesn't.

Tugmistress
17-Feb-08, 17:21
I will always beleive in Nessie, me mum and dad went on the caley cruisers trip and our boat had a sonar and fish finder on it and we were right in the middle of loch ness and all of a sudden the sonar and the fish finder said we were a couple of feet of the bottom we didnt have a clue how that could be as we were in the middle of the loch, this lasted a wee while then all of a sudden it droped back down to realy deep again, our only explination is nessie was under us, if it wasnt for this happening i wouldnt beleive in nessie.


kazzii xxxx

You missed out the wake and 'something' that broke the surface to the side of us when the depth went back down to 90+m from 0.5m which it had been for at least half a mile!

yes i believe there is something there after that experience.

young_fishin_neep
17-Feb-08, 17:23
it was a fair few years ago, i cant be expected to remeber every detail lol

kazzii xxxx

Tugmistress
17-Feb-08, 17:24
it was a fair few years ago, i cant be expected to remeber every detail lol

kazzii xxxx

it was beginning june 2000 :D

young_fishin_neep
17-Feb-08, 17:26
gosh i didnt think it was that long ago i was only a wee bairn then and ive certainly slept alot since then!

kazzii xxxx

Flair
17-Feb-08, 17:46
Ah but is technology that far advanced,
i mean to say, aren't we struggling to replace petrol/diesel with a sustainable alternative.[/quote]

I would say so. You could drain the loch, have a look then fill it up again. Send a couple of submarines down. We could... oh wait, silly me, I forgot. That all costs money.

I don't think technology is the problem when it comes to replacing petrol, it's safety. You could use hydrogen if everyone was a perfect driver. It's cheap and clean, but one crash and you turn the whole motorway into a fireball.

caithnessgirl
17-Feb-08, 17:49
i believe this theory....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4779248.stm

Although it doesnt explain recent "sightings"...

oh heck i dunno!!

miranda
17-Feb-08, 22:30
i believe this theory....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4779248.stm (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4779248.stm)

Although it doesnt explain recent "sightings"...

oh heck i dunno!!

lol elephants ..whatever next..lol
think once upon a time there may have been"something" but surley it couldnt still be alive and there would be definate proof by now!!:confused

Yoda the flump
17-Feb-08, 22:43
I voted 'Are you mad' - on the basis that you MUST BE MAD if you even have to ask that question, of course Nessie exists!;)

young_fishin_neep
17-Feb-08, 22:55
have you guys not seen the new film out, water horse legend of the deep? it tells all, there can only be onbe water horse at a time in the world, nessie lays an egg and when she dyes the egg hatches, and she grows massive just after a wee feast, duhhh thats how nessies stilla around


kazzii xxxxx

trix
17-Feb-08, 23:05
of course nessie existed, she died tho :(

lady penelope
18-Feb-08, 00:05
My OH worked at Urquart Castle for years and never saw a Nessie in the water, or on land. Only the one at the visitors centre exists now.;)

Dog-eared
18-Feb-08, 00:12
Just because there are very few fish in Loch Ness there might still be weed or algae for a thing to feed on. Some very big beasts are veggies !

j4bberw0ck
18-Feb-08, 00:27
But not in water. Vegetarian creatures find it difficult to keep warm, and Loch Ness is cold. The real reason no one's seen the monster of late is Global Warming. The thing's dead because the water warmed. Mercifully, and quite unlike any other animal, as it decomposed, the carcase didn't inflate with gases and float; that's because the pixies stuck a pipe in it and siphoned off the methane to power their patio heaters.

Moira
18-Feb-08, 00:30
And she'll be due her annual sighting in the next 6 weeks, just in time for the start of the tourist season ;). Strange eh?:roll:

Nessie has already put in her appearance for this year Dehaviland. Were you not paying attention?

Dog-eared
18-Feb-08, 00:54
Ah well, at least it was warm when it went and its gases went to a good cause.
Good job there are others existing in our other Scottish lochs.

That's lochs not locks ! :lol:

northener
18-Feb-08, 09:58
47% think Nessie exists, therefore Nessie exists.

Who'd have thought Descartes would help prove the existance of a mythological beast?

What more evidence do you heretics need?

.

sphinx
18-Feb-08, 17:30
no way dose nessie exits they have been up and down there with sonar gear and i think they would have picked sumfing up on the screen after all shes no wee :lol:

Highland Laddie
18-Feb-08, 19:39
no way dose nessie exits they have been up and down there with sonar gear and i think they would have picked sumfing up on the screen after all shes no wee :lol:

LOL and neither is the loch

Another theory i've heard is, the under water caves lead to the open sea !!!
plenty food there.

dan67
19-Feb-08, 16:51
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg294/dan67/PICT0056.jpg

justine
19-Feb-08, 23:53
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg294/dan67/PICT0056.jpg

So i stand corrected of course she exists..See who needed any technology, looks like the kids did it....

balto
20-Feb-08, 20:08
of course nessie is real just like santa, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy.[lol][lol]

George Brims
20-Feb-08, 21:34
no way dose nessie exits they have been up and down there with sonar gear and i think they would have picked sumfing up on the screen after all shes no wee :lol:

They *have* picked up moving objects on sonar.

I was quite intrigued by the Loch Ness Monster exhibition centre in Drumnadrochit when we went through it last year. It takes a very skeptical line nowadays, explaining a lot of the things that people could mistake for a monster. Boat wakes are the most obvious, and the thing that leads to people thinking of Nessie as some huge beast.

However I personally believe there is some unknown creature living in the loch. Too many local people, without ever making a fuss in the papers, have witnessed something strange for it to be totally discounted. I just don't think it's some great big dinosaur looking thing. In the past eels as big as 12 feet have been caught in Loch Ness. Seen in a fleeting glimpse, something that big is going to make an impression on people. Those of us who fish know how deceiving it can be to glimpse something in the water and wrongly estimate its size. Sadly that 15 to 20 pound salmon you see leaping for a fly often turns out to be a 4 pound grilse when you catch it!

j4bberw0ck
20-Feb-08, 23:59
Oh, come on. Please, let's get real. Loch Ness is cold and very deep and because the water is brown from peat and light can't penetrate, has little in the way of microscopic organisms at the base of a food chain. So there aren't many fish. So there's nothing for something bigger to feed on, on any regular basis. So Nessie would have starved centuries or millennia ago. So it's a legend, OK?

If anyone wants a reliable explanation, which fits the observations, you need to read about seiches.

Here's an explanation (http://lakes.chebucto.org/INFO/LIMNOLOGY/seiche.html). Monsters are not an explanation. Seiches have been regularly seen and videoed on Loch Ness, and occur because the prevailing winds come from the south west and blow along the loch. The surface water is blown along and eventually gets to the north-east end of the loch, and then rebounds and flows back, against the wind. Logs and objects in the water appear to be moving against the wind, because they are. Observers are deceived into thinking nothing can move against the wind so logs become monsters, swimming.

There's a regular program about this on Sky Documentaries channel. I've seen it twice, and turned to something else at least another two or three times. The explanation fits the observation perfectly, with no need for some mysteriously-preserved paleolithic monster.

ywindythesecond
21-Feb-08, 00:51
Nessie came here twice. Once for for Saint Columba, and many times for the Editor of the Inverness Courier. But dont tell anyone.


http://www.ambaile.org/newspapers/search_results.jsp? (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://www.ambaile.org/newspapers/search_results.jsp?)


newspaper=0&PrimarySubject=0&startyear=*&endyear=*&keywords=loch%20ness%20monster&StartRow=25&MaxRows=25

George Brims
21-Feb-08, 03:08
So there aren't many fish.
Wrong. Some marine biologists did some camera work and netting and found to their surprise that there are tons (literally hundreds of tons) of Arctic Char in Loch Ness, as well as migratory salmon.


If anyone wants a reliable explanation, which fits the observations, you need to read about seiches.
Seiches are one of the explanations shown at the aforementioned Exhibition in Drum. They have also been used to explain the supposed monster in Lake Champlain in the NE USA (folk around there are just becoming aware of the tourism potential of exobiology!).

nanoo
21-Feb-08, 18:24
Hey! all you doubters of Nessies existance. I have just got proof She DOES exist. She goes missing at times and i've just found out why. She's in Australia just now and if you want to see her, go to the Photography section, the thread on the first page titled View from the Top, Post 4. There she is large as life, even Lolabelle saw her after i pointed her out in the photograph. Mystery solved, she likes to travel the world and it's not her fault if she's on vacation when some group or other are at loch Ness to prove or disprove she exists.[lol]:lol: