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Please read this and let me know what you think..I have one of these and i can say that it is a fantastic dog..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7239464.stm
percy toboggan
14-Feb-08, 19:23
They may well be good dogs - for a while my wife was really keen on them.
Sadly they've been tainted by association with some of their owners. I sometimes see macho males - usualy under thirty with these dogs.
They seem to like to use them to appear tough, or hard. This breed is really 'pit-bull lite'. They are cheaper I think than English Bull Terrier's one of which attacked my sister when she was nine, scarring her for life and then it turned to attack me (4) luckily an adult whisked me away). I might have been killed. This has not spoilt my opinion of English b.t.'s as I quite like them, but would not own one or leave one near small children.
I always perceive staffordhire b.t.'s as exuberant , muscle packed dogs. I'm not really keen on them to be honest.
This thread may well be moved, as I mentioned cats the other week and that was shifted...never mind eh?
My sis-in-law and hubbie have two and they are very affectionate, as are their two staffies...boom boom! :)
I think the article is probably correct, that they are perceived as similar to banned dogs.
They may well be good dogs - for a while my wife was really keen on them.
Sadly they've been tainted by association with some of their owners. I sometimes see macho males - usualy under thirty with these dogs.
They seem to like to use them to appear tough, or hard. This breed is really 'pit-bull lite'. They are cheaper I think than English Bull Terrier's one of which attacked my sister when she was nine, scarring her for life and then it turned to attack me (4) luckily an adult whisked me away). I might have been killed. This has not spoilt my opinion of English b.t.'s as I quite like them, but would not own one or leave one near small children.
I always perceive staffordhire b.t.'s as exuberant , muscle packed dogs. I'm not really keen on them to be honest.
This thread may well be moved, as I mentioned cats the other week and that was shifted...never mind eh?
I love EBT, they are my favourite dog, but they tend to be a one man?woman type of dog.As for the staffie they loves people adults, children and other dogs alike, if allowed to socialise with them before 16 weeks of age.I am lucky with our puppy as it around other dogs all the time, cats, rabbits and most of all my children...I am not saying i would leave him in the room on his own with any of them, but the trust will come over time.I can honestly say that staffies make crap gaurd dogs as they are too people friendly.But in the wrong hands are killing machines...
Sadly the Staffy has become a 'psuedo Pitbull' - they look similar and so the knuckle draggers who think having a 'fierce' looking dog makes them hard, have tended to go for such breeds. One such one-braincell-wonder was on TV a while back - his excuse was that because carrying a gun or knife could get him nicked he had trained the dog to be vicious. While the dog (a Staffy IIRC) certainly was barking at the cameraman it was hard to tell if all he wanted to play with the mic-muff!!!
But I have no doubt that any dog has a higher IQ than these morons...
My sister has a staffie, and he is the most loveble, loving, friendly ball of muscle ive met, wonderfully gentle with their 4 young kids, but will knock you off your feet to get a cuddle!!!
i think, as with any animal, it is down to care, training and breeding. even the most pedicured pampered chuahua(sp?) could do some damage to your ankles in a fit of madness!!!! unless otherwise trained to do so, the average dog would only attack in self or pack defence. crossbreeding to make a smarter stronger dogs can introduce undesirable traits, which i think is probalby been the biggest problem for staffies, its changed their character to give alot of crosses a bad name, when its the owner who trains them often at fault.
youve done a wonderfull job with Bingo and id imagine youll have a very positive effect on your new pup. im still having problems with Lurches barking, the collar has had no effect!!!!!!! am about to try a different approach, as want to get him calmed before baby arrives (5 weeks to go!! eek)
lady penelope
14-Feb-08, 19:51
I don't have a staffy, but I find them very friendly, affectionate, always seem to be smiling too. I automatically put my dogs lead on if I meet another dog walker who's dog is on a lead, whatever the breed.
All dogs can be dangerous, never trust any dog.
They are dogs, after all!
A friend of ours brought a bulldog for £2000 only to be told by her vet it was actually a x with a staffie. ( was conned left right and centre , papers in the post and all that ) when she went back to the breeder they had moved.
Anyway to cut a long story short we gave her £600 for him . What a wonderful dog he is. Hes loyal ,very soppy ,has to be covered with a blanket at night or he just wont rest, wants to sit on every ones lap BUT hes almost 6 stone and when those paws pinch a fat bit on the chair its not funny ! he also farts for England on a daily basis but we wouldn't part with him for anything. jan x
WE LOVE HIM LOTS XXX
My sister has a staffie, and he is the most loveble, loving, friendly ball of muscle ive met, wonderfully gentle with their 4 young kids, but will knock you off your feet to get a cuddle!!!
i think, as with any animal, it is down to care, training and breeding. even the most pedicured pampered chuahua(sp?) could do some damage to your ankles in a fit of madness!!!! unless otherwise trained to do so, the average dog would only attack in self or pack defence. crossbreeding to make a smarter stronger dogs can introduce undesirable traits, which i think is probalby been the biggest problem for staffies, its changed their character to give alot of crosses a bad name, when its the owner who trains them often at fault.
youve done a wonderfull job with Bingo and id imagine youll have a very positive effect on your new pup. im still having problems with Lurches barking, the collar has had no effect!!!!!!! am about to try a different approach, as want to get him calmed before baby arrives (5 weeks to go!! eek)
Thank you for your words on bingo...With Tank(staffie)12 weeks old, sits on command, kids can take anything off him.He can get boistrous with them but stops as soon as he is SHHHH..(dog whisperer)...Bingo and him are great friends.Bingo even starts the play time.He is keeping Tank in check..I got the easier job...
As for the baby make sure you let us know, when and what you have.Good luck love,may your labour be easy and not long....Dont forget to breathe.....
A friend of ours brought a bulldog for £2000 only to be told by her vet it was actually a x with a staffie. ( was conned left right and centre , papers in the post and all that ) when she went back to the breeder they had moved.
Anyway to cut a long story short we gave her £600 for him . What a wonderful dog he is. Hes loyal ,very soppy ,has to be covered with a blanket at night or he just wont rest, wants to sit on every ones lap BUT hes almost 6 stone and when those paws pinch a fat bit on the chair its not funny ! he also farts for England on a daily basis but we wouldn't part with him for anything. jan x
WE LOVE HIM LOTS XXX
I have to agree with all you have said especially the farting.my god tank stinks...I know they suffer with gas but i was not ready for that....;
cuddlepop
14-Feb-08, 20:19
Justine I've never really taken to this breed of dog,the look alone alwas made me uncomfortable.
After my own old collie was attacked by one,I alter my route just to avoide walking past where this one stays.
To be fair the owners dog was the irresponsilble one and should never have been allowed to keep such a powerful dog, that she obviously had no control over. :(
Justine I've never really taken to this breed of dog,the look alone alwas made me uncomfortable.
After my own old collie was attacked by one,I alter my route just to avoide walking past where this one stays.
To be fair the owners dog was the irresponsilble one and should never have been allowed to keep such a powerful dog, that she obviously had no control over. :(
Neither did i.I have always listened to people who say that they are bad.But having got tank now i relise that it is down to all the owners who do the bad stuff to them.....I would not part with tank now as i have more confidence in myself to control him.....
never had a problem with them its usually collies i aviod as they seem to go for Poppy our lab!
never had a problem with them its usually collies i aviod as they seem to go for Poppy our lab!
Dont trust collies either snappy one man dogs....
cuddlepop
15-Feb-08, 16:35
Dont trust collies either snappy one man dogs....
Once again I think its down to the owners handling of the dogs as my two are lovely and previous collies have been too.:D
Charlie, our Border Collie is very affectionate with everyone. He doesn't snap at all. He's a great pet.
Phoenix200416
15-Feb-08, 20:05
I think a lot of it comes down to the owner rather than the breed. I am rather afraid of collies myself since I was bitten on the face and hand by a collie as a child. However, although I am still wary of collies, my sister has one and he is so sweet I couldn't be frightened of him. Though I was a bit nervous the first time I met him.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that any dog can be aggressive with the wrong handling and someone can be frightened of a particular breed of dog if they have had a bad experience with them. I don't see how it is fair to be prejudgice (sp) to a breed that you have never spend time with.
Basically, just because I was attacked by a collie as a child does not mean that I will petition to have collies banned, e.t.c. The dog that attacked me just happened to be a collie, but it could have been any breed...
I think a dog turns out the way the owner treats it, but saying that I have 2 and I would never trust them 100%
porshiepoo
16-Feb-08, 10:24
Any breed of dog has the ability to become vicious if they aren't reared properly, unfortunately Staffys are often bought by the numptys that want a breed that they think makes them look hard. All terriers naturally have a bold temperament and are quite fearless and this can be become their downfall if proper care and rearing isn't given to them from the outset. Staffys were originally bred to kill rats but they do make fantastic pets and thrive in family environments.
One of their problems is that they have been used for fighting for many years now and I suspect that that fighting gene may well mean that unsocialized puppy's who are reared by people with no inclination to do right by them, means that they will not back down when challenged or threatened and Staffys can be extremely protective of their owners.
My husbands friend many years ago asked us to take his male staffy to be destroyed because it had attacked and killed a poodle. I couldn't bring myself to do it so we kept him and he turned out to be one of the most fantastic dogs ever. He had real issues with other dogs as he'd not been socialized and try as we might we just couldn't seem to get him to accept other dogs. Then we had to put him in kennels for 6 months as we couldn't bring him home (we lived with hubby's dad at the time and the Staffy had eaten through doors to get to dads dog), eventually we got him out and bought him to the house when dad left and he was a different dog. The kennels said they hadn't done anything but I guess being around other dogs for those 6 months had somehow bought out the natural power of the pack and he became best friends with the dog he'd previously wanted to kill.
He still remained very protective of me though and we had to be aware that he needed proper handling and was kept in control at all times when out.
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