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Fran
09-Feb-08, 03:32
I hope the multi million pound national nuclear archive to be based next to wick airport is not to be built next to Tesco where the new shops are supposed to be going.
I would be most annoyed if this huge building was to be built instead of the shops. i did see surveyors at the site next to Tesco where the start of a road leads to and hope it was for the new shops and not the new nuclear archive building. Does anybody know the exact site it is to be built on. It just states next to wick airport.

Boozeburglar
09-Feb-08, 04:34
I bet there are many noses out of joint in Thurso at such an idea.

Hey it is such an important thing for the NDA they are prepared to pay almost half of the cost of the facility they have been mandated to build!

With such high profile developments as this and the Thurso Town Hall one, everyone will see how much the locals loved Dounreay, really.

Being an archive, will Mr Punler be featuring in both his present and past incarnations?

Perhaps George Gunn could write a poem for the opening, for the sake of balance?

They should open a bar in each so the red nosed brigade can reminisce about the days there were some jobs in the county.

With CASE involved, it is bound to be a great success.

I wonder if they could coax PG out of hiding to run the project?

hails4
09-Feb-08, 10:13
anyone got any evidence of where this is going, i find this very intresting and how it is coming to wick!

Riffman
09-Feb-08, 11:45
Putting it in Wick makes sense. Once the dounreay site is closed they will still need somewhere to store all their stuff. And being next the airport makes it easy for the boffins from down south to travel up here.

Also, its just outside the blast radius if everything goes tits up at dounreay [lol]

Pepsix
09-Feb-08, 12:37
I hope the multi million pound national nuclear archive to be based next to wick airport is not to be built next to Tesco where the new shops are supposed to be going.
I would be most annoyed if this huge building was to be built instead of the shops. i did see surveyors at the site next to Tesco where the start of a road leads to and hope it was for the new shops and not the new nuclear archive building. Does anybody know the exact site it is to be built on. It just states next to wick airport.

Not sure of exact location but it is going on Highland Council ground so it will be somewhere around the hangers /industrial estate. It will have no impact on the shopping development. I expect Fran that building will be due to start on that shortly and men up would be to do with that.:Razz

ciderally
09-Feb-08, 12:45
this is good news for wick...was wondering why all these new shops were going up in the town at long last..what else is in the pipeline i wonder....

Green_not_greed
09-Feb-08, 13:27
Well Wick can have the archive if Thurso gets the shops.....

MileHigh
09-Feb-08, 15:22
Having it beside the Airport was a Deciding factor in building it in Wick.People can fly in from all over and have easy access to it. Think it is being Built on the road up to the Airport on the same side as the Recycling Centre just up past it a bit.

Humerous Vegetable
09-Feb-08, 16:06
Everything in the county appears to go to Wick these days. We over this side should get new road signs put up at the entrance to Thurso saying "Welcome to Caithness 19th Century Theme Park". Visit olden-days shops and businesses, travel on Victorian public transport over Victorian pot-holes and pay for all your dental treatment just like we used to before the NHS. Go and see our funny old schools and libraries! BUT don't forget to pay for everything at 21st century prices.

scotsboy
09-Feb-08, 16:32
Fair play to Wick, it does seem a strange place to locate it though. I look forward to a Museum of the Herring Fishing Industry being located in Thurso.

oldchemist
09-Feb-08, 16:56
No reason why it should not go to Wick. It is the national archive, not just Dounreay. Good news for Caithness in any case. Hope it is our starter for ten.

Penelope Pitstop
09-Feb-08, 17:01
Don't know what all the hype is about, it's just an archive. If it was going to bring a boost to the ever declining Caithness economy I would say wow....but it's not. It's just a tit bit they are throwing us due to the Dounreay decline. Personally I would have preferred a new reactor.

They say this archive will provide 20 new jobs .....in the scheme of things I say big whoop!!

No doubt it will be built by contractors from the south so local guys aren't going to benefit either.:(

scotsboy
09-Feb-08, 17:30
No reason why it should not go to Wick. It is the national archive, not just Dounreay. Good news for Caithness in any case. Hope it is our starter for ten.

Yeah, a bit like having a National Tennis museum at Wembley, or a National Football Archive at Wimbledon.

Rheghead
09-Feb-08, 17:46
With the archive and all the tidal energy units being built at wick harbour, the tide might just turn on Wick's fortunes, let us hope anyway.

scorrie
09-Feb-08, 19:58
I would be most annoyed if this huge building was to be built instead of the shops.

Gee whiz!! Can we not get past this hunger for more shops? We need other forms of employment in the area in order to make any growth sustainable. We cannot survive by simply firing up shop after shop after shop.

We need to be realistic about the level of population we have in Caithness and the limitations it puts on what companies we can expect to set up businesses here. Any non-retail employment is to be welcomed, ahead of more shops, in my opinion.

catnip
09-Feb-08, 21:08
Why oh why is this turning into a Thurso v Wick ?
It is about the whole county and all who live here!
;)

Big hughie
10-Feb-08, 18:36
Im led to believe the excellent North Highland archive is to be removed from Wick Library to the new building

Beeg Hugheeeeee

Big hughie
10-Feb-08, 18:45
"Everything in the county appears to go to Wick these days." Please remember for years nothing came to Wick at all If you wanted to swim go to the pictures go to evening classes (except for the absolute basics) even for a while get a Chinese carryout you had to go to Thurso
Why was that the case ...could it be our "local representatives" on the Wick side were not very good for a time ?????
Hmmm
Beeg Hugheeeeeeee

catnip
10-Feb-08, 20:47
"Everything in the county appears to go to Wick these days." Please remember for years nothing came to Wick at all If you wanted to swim go to the pictures go to evening classes (except for the absolute basics) even for a while get a Chinese carryout you had to go to Thurso
Why was that the case ...could it be our "local representatives" on the Wick side were not very good for a time ?????
Hmmm
Beeg Hugheeeeeeee



Agree totally !

oldchemist
10-Feb-08, 20:52
Well said Catnip.

sweetpea
10-Feb-08, 21:07
I'd love a job there (seriously) but only thing that worries me is what if the old docs have contamination, bound to be a few that if you put a probe on them have

tenabowla
10-Feb-08, 22:07
I think its getting ridiculous the amount of investment in Wick at the moment, it is a total waste of money.

northener
10-Feb-08, 22:43
I think its getting ridiculous the amount of investment in Wick at the moment, it is a total waste of money.

Get a grip.

.

concerned resident
10-Feb-08, 23:19
Who in there right mind would consider Thurso, after the ASDA Planning Fiasco. Only problem Thurso is going to end up a Ghost Town.

scorrie
10-Feb-08, 23:33
Well said Catnip.

I think you'll find Big Hughie said it.

scorrie
10-Feb-08, 23:35
I think its getting ridiculous the amount of investment in Wick at the moment, it is a total waste of money.

This resonates of playthings being projected from a perambulator.

Highland Laddie
10-Feb-08, 23:44
I think its getting ridiculous the amount of investment in Wick at the moment, it is a total waste of money.

It's bad enough you think like that,
but to put vitriolic diatribe like that into print
does absolutely no good for Wick, Thurso or the County.

I thought those were feelings from years back
because that's where it should stay.

Move on, Wick was the poor cousin for years, give it it's chance now.

Rheghead
11-Feb-08, 00:11
It's bad enough you think like that,
but to put vitriolic diatribe like that into print
does absolutely no good for Wick, Thurso or the County.

I thought those were feelings from years back
because that's where it should stay.

Move on, Wick was the poor cousin for years, give it it's chance now.

well said.

Whitewater
11-Feb-08, 13:27
I'd love a job there (seriously) but only thing that worries me is what if the old docs have contamination, bound to be a few that if you put a probe on them have

I don't think you should work there. By your statement above you know very little about Dounreay nor the methods of dealing with documentation or its classification standards.

TBH
11-Feb-08, 15:11
How does the nuclear archive benefit Caithness? There will be twenty jobs created but these will be specialist jobs. Will it be local contractors that get the building contract or firms from the south with maybe a few crumbs thrown to the local labour force? I am not against the archive whatsoever but would like to know how much benefit it is going to bring to the county.

Mizpah
11-Feb-08, 15:45
How does the nuclear archive benefit Caithness? There will be twenty jobs created but these will be specialist jobs. Will it be local contractors that get the building contract or firms from the south with maybe a few crumbs thrown to the local labour force? I am not against the archive whatsoever but would like to know how much benefit it is going to bring to the county.

I dont think it takes much to work out how it will benefit the town as I am sure it will attract a lot of visitors and people who are looking for some particular thing in the Archive, which will bring people into hotels, boarding house which in turn will need goods to cater for the influx and am sure it will create a fair bit of econmy with it. :lol:

TBH
11-Feb-08, 16:09
I dont think it takes much to work out how it will benefit the town as I am sure it will attract a lot of visitors and people who are looking for some particular thing in the Archive, which will bring people into hotels, boarding house which in turn will need goods to cater for the influx and am sure it will create a fair bit of econmy with it. :lol:It is surely going to very popular to be able to fill our hotels and create an economic boom.:roll:

Mizpah
11-Feb-08, 16:48
It is surely going to very popular to be able to fill our hotels and create an economic boom.:roll:

I did not say any where in my reply that it would creats an economic boom but said that it would help the local buisness's, please be careful in your replys and do not take things out of context.

TBH
11-Feb-08, 18:01
I did not say any where in my reply that it would creats an economic boom but said that it would help the local buisness's, please be careful in your replys and do not take things out of context.You said:
I am sure it will attract a lot of visitors and people who are looking for some particular thing in the Archive, which will bring people into hotels, boarding house which in turn will need goods to cater for the influx and am sure it will create a fair bit of econmy with itYou are either expecting plane-loads, bus-loads of people giving an economic boost to our hotels, restaurants and shops or you are expecting a constant dribble of a few people coming to see this facility and do a bit of research which will provide dribs and drabs of economic gain to those businesses. which is it?

Riffman
11-Feb-08, 18:26
Well moan or not its coming here, and I am looking forward to it. Nice to be able to get into some of the material, could of done with it years ago.

riggerboy
11-Feb-08, 19:17
I think its getting ridiculous the amount of investment in Wick at the moment, it is a total waste of money.

hey tell you what, bet nobody thought of this, we could move all the investment to thurso, second thought NO because that would just be the same waste of money, norrow minded

northener
11-Feb-08, 20:26
How does the nuclear archive benefit Caithness? There will be twenty jobs created but these will be specialist jobs. Will it be local contractors that get the building contract or firms from the south with maybe a few crumbs thrown to the local labour force? I am not against the archive whatsoever but would like to know how much benefit it is going to bring to the county.

Well, in it's simplest form, Caithness gets the archive or it goes somewhere like Oxfordshire.

If it means any level of investment in a non-controversial project taking place in our county as opposed to elsewhere - then I'm all for it.

We have it, or we don't. Simple choice.

.

scorrie
11-Feb-08, 20:48
How does the nuclear archive benefit Caithness? There will be twenty jobs created but these will be specialist jobs. Will it be local contractors that get the building contract or firms from the south with maybe a few crumbs thrown to the local labour force? I am not against the archive whatsoever but would like to know how much benefit it is going to bring to the county.

OK, it's not going to be the kiss of life that saved Caithness but at least it is better than kidding ourselves on that endless shops are the answer. I don't recall as much of an inquisition into who was building the Tesco building in Wick. For the record, that was put up by Tesco's own builders i.e. Barr, and nobody seemed to complain about that. I also asked how many full-time jobs there actually were in Wick Tesco and only got one reply, from someone who did not know the answer (thanks anyway though).

If the archive is about specialist jobs, then at least it won't simply be a case of one employee leaving one firm to go to another firm, with no nett gain to the employment but a perception of gain being made by the public.

sweetpea
11-Feb-08, 20:49
I don't think you should work there. By your statement above you know very little about Dounreay nor the methods of dealing with documentation or its classification standards.

Unfortunately I do know that currently some documents have been probed and found to be contaminated so I know that much.

Riffman
11-Feb-08, 21:51
Unfortunately I do know that currently some documents have been probed and found to be contaminated so I know that much.

Ah, but do you know how to work with contaminated material, or how to decontaminate it?

The people who will work there will all (apart from the cleaners) be from the industry, especially as some of the documents will have access restrictions on them.

Better get your mop serviced [lol]

TBH
11-Feb-08, 23:07
Well, in it's simplest form, Caithness gets the archive or it goes somewhere like Oxfordshire.

If it means any level of investment in a non-controversial project taking place in our county as opposed to elsewhere - then I'm all for it.

We have it, or we don't. Simple choice.

.A bit of prestige for Caithness rather than Oxfordshire, I agree totally. It should be built in Thurso in my opinion though as that is the town with the history in Nuclear Power provision.

northener
11-Feb-08, 23:14
A bit of prestige for Caithness rather than Oxfordshire, I agree totally. It should be built in Thurso in my opinion though as that is the town with the history in Nuclear Power provision.

Fair comment on location, although Wick has the flight links (allegedly;)) and space already allocated for development without it descending into a planning brawl. Unlike Thurso - Which would make more sense from a 'heritage' viewpoint but not any other, unfortunately.

TBH
11-Feb-08, 23:20
Fair comment on location, although Wick has the flight links (allegedly;)) and space already allocated for development without it descending into a planning brawl. Unlike Thurso - Which would make more sense from a 'heritage' viewpoint but not any other, unfortunately.Totally off beat Northerner but I see you have picked up the local humourisms , get off at georgemas was always a favourite of the girlies.[lol]

TBH
11-Feb-08, 23:27
OK, it's not going to be the kiss of life that saved Caithness but at least it is better than kidding ourselves on that endless shops are the answer. I don't recall as much of an inquisition into who was building the Tesco building in Wick. For the record, that was put up by Tesco's own builders i.e. Barr, and nobody seemed to complain about that. I also asked how many full-time jobs there actually were in Wick Tesco and only got one reply, from someone who did not know the answer (thanks anyway though).

If the archive is about specialist jobs, then at least it won't simply be a case of one employee leaving one firm to go to another firm, with no nett gain to the employment but a perception of gain being made by the public.The archive wont be the kiss of life to the community but some people are under the illusion that it will be.
As far as I am aware, some local contractors did get sub-contracted by Barr construction and the locally economy did receive a short term boost.
How many full time jobs in tesco wick, I couldn't really tell you but I am sure there will be more part-time than full time and no-where near the amount of jobs now as there were when it first opened.