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When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
I'm afraid it went that way a long long time ago, you can't accuse ethnic minorities of race crimes as the ethnic minority in question will always have a mob of chanting idiots that cause nothing but trouble behind them, a controvercial statement i know....but thats because eveyone else is all so afraid of the PC brigade that they are afraid to say anything.
I'll always remember that undercover television program about the traffic wardens, they were heavy handed with everyone apart from those that parked outside a Mosque at prayer time.... they were instructed to leave them alone by their superiors as it would cause too much outrage within the muslim community if the ticketed alll the illegally parked cars....and yeah...thats just the way it is these days :(
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
When the suspects are under 16 years old and haven't been tried yet.
Last year when an adult was found guilty of involvement in the crime all the papers called it a racist murder. The headline in the Scotsman read:
Man guilty of racial murder of Glasgow schoolboy
An Asian man was today found guilty of the racially-motivated murder of Glasgow schoolboy Kriss Donald.
I don't think they could have said it more explicitly than that.
When the suspects are underage the press arn't allowed to say much of anything at all.
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Shown yourself up a bit there.
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Shown yourself up a bit there.
What do you mean? :confused
It is being called a racist murder. Racism works both ways and the press are very careful not to "take sides" if that is the best way of putting it. What are you talking about! [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad]
It is being called a racist murder. Racism works both ways and the press are very careful not to "take sides" if that is the best way of putting it. What are you talking about! [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad] [mad]
Calm down.
Anyway, not 'taking sides'? Are you sure?
Does the name Stephen Lawrence not ring a bell?
I remember at the time that the press and public were quite rightly outraged about it. The perpetrators were found not guilty but were held responsible by the media anyway. Even before the trial there was mass public coverage of the case.
In the Donald case very few papers are willing to shout 'Race' although there have been a small mention of it.
Why the disparity?
It may be just a Scottish thing whereby English news gets more publicity, I don't know, I only want to know. I possibly think fred might be right about them being under age. :confused
It may be just a Scottish thing whereby English news gets more publicity, I don't know, I only want to know. I possibly think fred might be right about them being under age. :confused
They can't even say which country they are being extradited from.
Pakistan, it was on the news tonight, but no word of 'racial attack'
SandTiger
06-Oct-05, 23:58
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Overlooked by the Community Safety Unit were we?
SandTiger
07-Oct-05, 00:04
In the Donald case very few papers are willing to shout 'Race' although there have been a small mention of it.
Why the disparity?
Sub judice springs to mind?
Sorry sandtiger I don't understand your posts, they seem to be cryptic, can you fully explain?
Pakistan, it was on the news tonight, but no word of 'racial attack'
Whoever revealed they were coming from Pakistan was treading on thin ice.
As adults it is our legal duty to protect children, all children, black and white and as what we suspect they might have done. If any harm, mental or physical, comes to any of those children as a result someone will be in big trouble.
Well I have seen video footage of them being escorted through a building in Pakistan - if they are children, then they sure are big for their age. They remind me of the Saudi under 16s that beat Scotland in the Unde-16S World Cup final a few years ago :roll:
Children? What are you guys on about? :confused
From the BBC News website: (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4314050.stm)
Three men have appeared in court after being extradited from Pakistan, charged with the abduction and murder of Glasgow teenager Kriss Donald.
Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Faisal Mustaq, all in their 20s, made no plea at Glasgow Sheriff Court and were remanded in custody for a week.
I just assumed that fred was right, I wasn't prepared to check up on his claim that time.
just goes to show eh?
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Shown yourself up a bit there.
What do you mean? :confused
I mean you come across as a Mail-reading bonehead.
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Shown yourself up a bit there.
What do you mean? :confused
I mean you come across as a Mail-reading bonehead.
What do you mean by that? :confused
I just assumed that fred was right, I wasn't prepared to check up on his claim that time.
just goes to show eh?
Even I can't be right all the time, I saw a load of news reports saying nothing for legal reasons which usualy means there's a minor involved and the murder was of a 15 year old so I put two and two together and got five. It looks like it was because they were being flown back on civilian airlines that it was all kept hush hush.
We all make mistakes.
cullbucket
08-Oct-05, 08:22
sids wrote:
Rheghead wrote:
sids wrote:
Rheghead wrote:
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Shown yourself up a bit there.
What do you mean?
I mean you come across as a Mail-reading bonehead.
What do you mean by that?
He means the Daily Mail (or Express) -Xenophobia gone mad
What we need is a stiff upper lip, spirit of the blitz, oswald mosely etc....
Concerned Hemel Hempstead
Cant get this quote thingy to work properly.......
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Shown yourself up a bit there.
What do you mean? :confused
I mean you come across as a Mail-reading bonehead.
What do you mean by that? :confused
A bonehead means someone of dull wits, who is slow to take on new ideas. I suppose it's an old-fashioned expression, but I thought people today would still understand it.
The [Daily] Mail is thick daily tabloid newspaper, popular among right wing ranters whose reading age is too low to follow the Daily Telegraph.
When is a racist murder not a racist murder?
Answer: When it involves asians killing a white boy.
I have been following the news about the murder of Kriss Donald by asian suspects. If white men had killed an asian boy it would automatically be a racist killing. So why is this not being dubbed one?
Have we gone too PC about race?
Shown yourself up a bit there.
What do you mean? :confused
I mean you come across as a Mail-reading bonehead.
What do you mean by that? :confused
A bonehead means someone of dull wits, who is slow to take on new ideas. I suppose it's an old-fashioned expression, but I thought people today would still understand it.
The [Daily] Mail is thick daily tabloid newspaper, popular among right wing ranters whose reading age is too low to follow the Daily Telegraph.
How does my post give you the impression that I came across as dull witted and slow to take on new ideas? How did my post give you the impression that I came across as a right wing ranter? :confused
Look, boy: you started this thread. Have a think about why you did that. Don't bother posting the thoughts on the board.
Look, boy: you started this thread. Have a think about why you did that. Don't bother posting the thoughts on the board.
The reason why I posted this was to see if people thought there was a disparity between this case and other high profile cases. So far I get the impression that they do, you though have provoked me into a pointless 'tete a tete'.
I think the case has not yet come to trial and so proof as to whether its a racially motivated murder has yet to be established.
See Rheghead - thats what a TRIAL is for - to establish the guilt or innocence of the accused and to determine the events which led to the murder of the victim.
Until then I rather think that even the Daily Mail might resist naming those accused as racist murderers although you seem not to have a problem in doing so.
I think that is the very point Rheghead was trying to make Squidge. If you remember back to the Lawrence case and others since the press are quick to use the term "racist" attack/murder when it involves a member of the "ethnic" community as the victim, this does not appear to be the case when the victim is caucasian.
The attack has already been highlighted as racist and someone already convicted:
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=137&id=1330672004
The Commission for Racial Equality even commented on it:
http://www.cre.gov.uk/Default.aspx.LocID-0hgnew04h.RefLocID-0hg00900c002.Lang-EN.htm
Joe White has a lot to answer for . There was a time when Joe White looked out on his empire and saw nothing useful but a world populated by his white anglo Saxon Protestant (WASPS) brothers and sisiters. Now that the other occupants of Joe Whites world are refusing to dance to his tune, and starting to bite back at the earlier injustices, Joe White wants equality.
A racist murder will become a non racist murder the moment Joe White decides to change his position and look around him and notice there are Thousands of other races in his empire, almost every one with some historic gripe against him leading right back to Joe Whites front door.
I cant imagine the pain and fear that young Kriss Donald must have felt, or the anguish his family will always feel. The same goes for the families of the Asian boys who also harbour a sneeky suspicion of the motives of their fellow countrymen.
Only Joe White can help change this.
Hahahahaha you all make me laugh, depending now in which put of the UK you live then you will realise that ethnics are not necessarilly the minority. And I also I feel that this should have been named as a racist attack, as if a Caucasian is charged with a racially motivated attack I believe the charge to be quite considerably harder. But then again its easy to comment when its not on your door and neither are you the minority and never likely will be, I recently returned to the highlands with my girlfriend who commented in disbelief that we had managed to spend a whole week walking the streets of inverness and the only time we came across an ethnic was when we choose to go for an indian meal, where as down here you can spend a whole week getting the bus and be the only Caucasian all week on that bus.
Joe White is alive and well and choosing to live amongst busloads of Non caucasians and eat Indian food.
Unfortunatly the stuff between his lugs hasnt caught up with the pangs of his belly but at least the poor cratur gets some solice in the fact that his girlfriend is as perceptive as himself.
Shut up gleeber, you idiot, carry on skipping through the heather ya neep muncher
Gleeber, I did not post to be insulted by the likes of you. Meerly to agree with the topic in discussion, and that is that if a white guy happens to attack any ethnic race, then the courts always seem to want to tie the phrase "racist attack", whether it was or wasn't, the reason being that it carries a harsher sentence, so there for as stated in the original posting, why shouldnt the family of this victim being looking for the same judicial correctness, as afforded any black, asian or other race. Its all pc gone mad again
Any resemblance between Joe White and the poster known as away is purely coincidental. :roll:
I apoligise to Joe White for the misunderstanding. :confused
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