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Julia
04-Jan-08, 19:53
Today in the general section there has been mention of 'AA' and a Father's Support Group, what about something for the single Orgers among us?

connieb19
04-Jan-08, 19:54
Oooo what a good idea lol. :lol:

paris
04-Jan-08, 19:57
I begsy be the agony aunt lol jan x:lol:

starry
04-Jan-08, 19:58
I am not sure what I have to do but I am here :confused

connieb19
04-Jan-08, 19:58
I begsy be the agony aunt lol jan x:lol:I bet you'll live to regret that Paris. I'll pm you with my first problem.

karia
04-Jan-08, 20:00
I am not sure what I have to do but I am here :confused

Don't let starry sign up to anything tonight...she's on the vino!:lol:

Julia
04-Jan-08, 20:00
Admin will need to give Aunt Jan a larger inbox!

badger
04-Jan-08, 20:00
Before I came up I registered on the .org and joined a group of Singles called Serendipity which disappeared long ago when the person who started it moved south (and is now partnered !). Trouble with these things is they're a bit like choirs - majority female. Why is that I wonder? Is it that women are better at being single than men and are happy staying that way? Doesn't make sense as you'd think there would be equal numbers. Or maybe men just don't want to join. Whatever, sounds like a good idea.

paris
04-Jan-08, 20:01
I bet you'll live to regret that Paris. I'll pm you with my first problem.
Oh gawd not you connieb I resign !!! jan x:lol:

starry
04-Jan-08, 20:01
Single and sloshed [lol]

Actually I am happy single.
One day I will tell you all about my online dating, which convinced me I want to be single forever.
I am going to die alone smelling of cat pee !!!

karia
04-Jan-08, 20:03
Single and sloshed [lol]

Actually I am happy single.
One day I will tell you all about my online dating, which convinced me I want to be single forever.
I am going to die alone smelling of cat pee !!!

That should sort out the mouse problem!:lol:

paris
04-Jan-08, 20:04
Single and sloshed [lol]

Actually I am happy single.
One day I will tell you all about my online dating, which convinced me I want to be single forever.
I am going to die alone smelling of cat pee !!!
Better than your own pee i suppose , on second thoughts !!!!!!!!!!! jan x

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:06
That should sort out the mouse problem!

:lol: Good one Karia!!!!!!!

And Paris, you can't resign ... cos the job is for life - not just for Christmas! ;)

northener
04-Jan-08, 20:08
Before I came up I registered on the .org and joined a group of Singles called Serendipity which disappeared long ago when the person who started it moved south (and is now partnered !). Trouble with these things is they're a bit like choirs - majority female. Why is that I wonder? Is it that women are better at being single than men and are happy staying that way? Doesn't make sense as you'd think there would be equal numbers. Or maybe men just don't want to join. Whatever, sounds like a good idea.

What? A group comprising of mainly single females?

Sign me up!

Errr....hang on - I'd better ask the wife first.:confused

paris
04-Jan-08, 20:13
Just had my first problem to answer to from connieb via pm Bless her , she would sure get a ban if she posted on here so i had to answer under wraps Keep smiling connie, what a lovely set of teeth you have jan x;)

connieb19
04-Jan-08, 20:16
Just had my first problem to answer to from connieb via pm Bless her , she would sure get a ban if she posted on here so i had to answer under wraps Keep smiling connie, what a lovely set of teeth you have jan x;)Thanks for the advice Dr Jan, I feel a lot better now. I think I was just trying to bite off more than I could chew. lol ;)

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:17
Ooooooooooooooo the mind boggles Paris :o

connieb19
04-Jan-08, 20:18
Ooooooooooooooo the mind boggles Paris :oIt's not as bad as it sounds.....it's worse. [para]

paris
04-Jan-08, 20:19
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL JAN X
Im going out soon to do my weekly spot singing down the local but dont fret i shall be back about 1.30 am jan x

connieb19
04-Jan-08, 20:20
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL JAN X
Im going out soon to do my weekly spot singing down the local but dont fret i shall be back about 1.30 am jan xAhh, we'll all be well sloshed by then, pouring our hearts out. :eek:

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:22
.. especially if we follow starry to the bottle!

paris
04-Jan-08, 20:24
I shall be waiting for you problems in anticipation,,,,,,,cor ! that's a big word for me and i spelt it right :DLOL janx

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:25
show off! :lol:

starry
04-Jan-08, 20:26
Is everyone else drunk yet ?:confused

Billy Boy
04-Jan-08, 20:26
What? A group comprising of mainly single females?

Sign me up!

Errr....hang on - I'd better ask the wife first.

I asked ma wife she said no:~( then a had second thought's you and a room full of nagging women................... I'll stick wi the wife lol:D

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:27
Working on it ....... what about you?:lol:

starry
04-Jan-08, 20:32
Working on it ....... what about you?:lol:


There is a fair chance I won't wake till Monday but weekends are for wimps anyway [disgust]

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:33
Lordi!!!! It must be a huge bottle you have got hold of!!!!!!:eek:

starry
04-Jan-08, 20:37
Lordi!!!! It must be a huge bottle you have got hold of!!!!!!:eek:


Well I have finished one, if I can find the kitchen I will open another one ;)

miranda
04-Jan-08, 20:38
a group for singles sounds fun..but i am married ..getting bit worried with all this wine drinking someone might start a group for married couples!!!!!!!!!! i aint throwing my keys in any piles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:eek::eek:

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:39
Well I have finished one, if I can find the kitchen I will open another one ;)


[FONT="Fixedsys"]When you find the kitchen, take two bottles through with you and then you don't have to move so much! :lol:FONT]

starry
04-Jan-08, 20:42
[font="Fixedsys"]When you find the kitchen, take two bottles through with you and then you don't have to move so much! :lol:FONT]


Good thinking !

laguna2
04-Jan-08, 20:51
Perhaps good thinking but may resyult in you feeling rather unwell tomorrow!

miranda
04-Jan-08, 22:11
im thinking starry has forgotten to come back from eh kitchen lol:D
all has gone quiet :D

starry
04-Jan-08, 22:13
I am here but I think I have a hangover.

karia
04-Jan-08, 22:24
I am here but I think I have a hangover.

Don't start now!:eek:

You have all day tomorrow for that!

northener
04-Jan-08, 22:31
I asked ma wife she said no then a had second thought's you and a room full of nagging women................... I'll stick wi the wife lol:D

Mrs N - she say NO!!!:~(

scorrie
04-Jan-08, 23:28
Is it that women are better at being single than men and are happy staying that way?

No, it is because men are better at being single than women. Think about it. Men are happier being single, so don't need to join a group. What could be better, a single man, with all his own teeth, playing the field and no responsibility?

Thumper
04-Jan-08, 23:41
Ok guys..I am here with my wine now too....where's the party?;) x

miranda
04-Jan-08, 23:44
they started without us thumper think they flakered already!!!!:Razz

Thumper
04-Jan-08, 23:46
Typical....story of my life![lol] x

shazzap
04-Jan-08, 23:53
Is everyone else drunk yet ?:confused
Im on my way Amarula on the rocks yummy

miranda
04-Jan-08, 23:55
Amanula?? whats at? never herd of it:confused:confused

shazzap
04-Jan-08, 23:59
Amanula?? whats at? never herd of it:confused:confused
No Miranda Amarula.

It;s made from the Amarula fruit that elephants love. A bit like Baileys but without the whiskey. Is whiskey with or without the H. I think iv'e had one too many now

miranda
05-Jan-08, 00:01
lol hate whisky will stick till eh wine or voddy cheers till ye tho:)

laguna2
05-Jan-08, 11:59
So, how is everyone feeling this morning ...

Has starry surfaced yet?
Did thumper find a party?
Has shazzup found out how to spell whisky?
Did miranda decide on voddy or wine?

Find out in the next exciting episode!!!!! [lol]

Thumper
05-Jan-08, 12:00
I am still waiting Laguna!Single,sober and bored [lol] x

Torvaig
05-Jan-08, 12:02
I am still waiting Laguna!Single,sober and bored [lol] x

Ah but you get to wear your socks in bed!

laguna2
05-Jan-08, 12:02
Aw poor you!

Never mind perhaps you will find a party tonight? Or you could join the quiz in the chat room tomorrow night and bring a bottle :)

laguna2
05-Jan-08, 12:04
Ah but you get to wear your socks in bed!

:lol: every cloud has a silver lining [lol]

Thumper
05-Jan-08, 12:05
:eek: if I brought a bottle to the quiz I would never answer anything!Happy to stay single tho....no hogging the duvet ;) x

laguna2
05-Jan-08, 12:06
I don't usually answer a lot at the quiz - and I don't have a bottle, just a slow computer. But I do enjoy misbehaving and causing chaos!!! [lol]

Thumper
05-Jan-08, 12:08
Oooh!That sounds like me too ;) always misbehaving me....I get away with a lot tho...got 4 lucky feet [lol] x

laguna2
05-Jan-08, 12:11
Take care that no one tries to borrow any of your feet!!!! :eek:

We could cause great chaos if there were two of us ...... :evil

Thumper
05-Jan-08, 12:13
Thats why I hide in my burrow all the time...feet snatchers everywhere [para] I seem to manage to cause chaos without even trying at times...maybe I will pop in tomorrow night to see what I can manage ;) x

laguna2
05-Jan-08, 12:14
:) Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!!!!!

starry
05-Jan-08, 14:47
So, how is everyone feeling this morning ...

Has starry surfaced yet?

Find out in the next exciting episode!!!!! [lol]


Morning :cool:
I have just got out of bed, so much for the get fit and make the most of everyday eh lol !!
Anyway I had good fun, apart from the phoning everyone I know and talking rubbish it was a great wee night.

Julia
05-Jan-08, 14:50
Ok, lets get back to the original topic, does anyone seriously think it's a good idea?

Not necessarily single boys and girls, single parents, folk looking for company for a night out, any scenario really?

starry
05-Jan-08, 14:55
Ok, lets get back to the original topic, does anyone seriously think it's a good idea?

Not necessarily single boys and girls, single parents, folk looking for company for a night out, any scenario really?

I think it is a great idea, not with a view to meeting a partner but just in general support/company type of way.

paris
05-Jan-08, 14:57
Even though i couldn't take part in any meetings/outings ( i live to far away and am married ) i think its a brill idea , just to meet up for coffee would be great . That was a big problem when we lived in lybster, other than porshiepoo we didn't know anyone who we could socialise with, you know go into town with, I felt very lonely. OH finds it hard to chat with people he doesn't know as he has a hearing problem and doesn't always hear whats being said. Yes great idea. Jan x

paris
05-Jan-08, 14:59
P.S as long as no one invites connieb:eek: i think all will be ok !;) jan x

starry
05-Jan-08, 15:01
Most of my friends are happily coupled up, I don't want a partner but I would like some single folk to do things like cinema, meals etc.

connieb19
05-Jan-08, 15:06
P.S as long as no one invites connieb i think all will be ok ! jan xIt's okay, I don't need an invite lol, I've just invited myself. [para] Oh I've sorted out that other thing too..... STAIN DEVILS. :lol:

paris
05-Jan-08, 15:09
That's what i was saying, some friends , no strings, to have a good night out with and a laugh, someone to be there when you need help. There seams to be a lot of people in the world who don't have a friend because of circumstances out of their control, some find it hard to meet others,
Maybe a message board section with who's going where , whats on , who wants to come , outings with the kids. There must be loads of things to do together its just that first meeting up with others that's hard. Good luck to all who get involved. jan x

paris
05-Jan-08, 15:11
It's okay, I don't need an invite lol, I've just invited myself. [para] Oh I've sorted out that other thing too..... STAIN DEVILS. :lol:
Had to use the old stain devils myself at times, more or less for the same reasons as well !

starry
05-Jan-08, 15:30
I looked at joining this a while ago but they have very few events up north and travelling so far would be a problem.
But it does give lots of ideas of things to do.

http://www.spicescotland.com/about/

paris
05-Jan-08, 15:50
I dare say there are a few on here like myself where money is tight...very tight at times, but just to be able to go into town for a coffee is a big thing for some. I cant imagine what its like to be on your own with lets say 2 young kids and no real friends, god it must be awful. Have you thought of maybe once a week picking a place in town where people can meet up for coffee and you KNOW someone will be around for a chat. Life can be very lonely for some.
Someone up there must be able to get the ball rolling and suggest something . janx

laguna2
05-Jan-08, 17:43
Morning :cool:
I have just got out of bed, so much for the get fit and make the most of everyday eh lol !!
Anyway I had good fun, apart from the phoning everyone I know and talking rubbish it was a great wee night.


Been there, done that - got rid of the t-shirt [lol]

anneoctober
06-Jan-08, 01:27
Ok, lets get back to the original topic, does anyone seriously think it's a good idea?

Not necessarily single boys and girls, single parents, folk looking for company for a night out, any scenario really?
Go for it Julia ! I think it's a great idea and hopefully it'll give single mums company and maybe even playmates for the bairns. At worst it'll pass an hour or so - the best scenario , you make new friends :)

Fran
06-Jan-08, 04:16
I think its a great idea and I would certainly come along.

badger
06-Jan-08, 11:49
No, it is because men are better at being single than women. Think about it. Men are happier being single, so don't need to join a group. What could be better, a single man, with all his own teeth, playing the field and no responsibility?

Are men happier being single? Not in my experience. They always seem to immediately want a relationship leading to living together - so they get someone to wash their socks maybe? Whereas most of the single women I know are happy living singly and don't want to change it. Personally I think "together but apart" would be great as you get older - I like my own space (as they say).

Groups of singles are great for going out together like cinema, days out, even coffee so, yes - let's go for it. That's what we used to do and it was fun. Marrieds and partnerships banned :) .

Angela
06-Jan-08, 12:35
Are men happier being single? Not in my experience. They always seem to immediately want a relationship leading to living together - so they get someone to wash their socks maybe? Whereas most of the single women I know are happy living singly and don't want to change it. Personally I think "together but apart" would be great as you get older - I like my own space (as they say).



That's my experience too, badger. Most men I know seem in a hurry to replace their partner, and I think they're often looking for someone to fill a gap in their lives that they find intolerable. Women seem to take longer in general - after either separation or bereavement - to even consider the idea of a new partner.

Although I still miss my OH a great deal, I've got used to living on my own and really rather enjoy the freedom to do as I please... :)

Maybe I'll be proved wrong in time, but right now "together but apart" sounds the ideal for us more mature Orgers! My Mum had been widowed for almost 30 years (and had turned down a number of proposals of marriage from men she felt just wanted a "housekeeper"), when she met someone she fell in love with -they were both in their seventies and spent the rest of their lives very happily "together but apart". :D

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 13:21
Are men happier being single? Not in my experience. They always seem to immediately want a relationship leading to living together - so they get someone to wash their socks maybe? Whereas most of the single women I know are happy living singly and don't want to change it. Personally I think "together but apart" would be great as you get older - I like my own space (as they say).

Groups of singles are great for going out together like cinema, days out, even coffee so, yes - let's go for it. That's what we used to do and it was fun. Marrieds and partnerships banned :) .I've found this too about single men. Their desperation to get into a full blown relationship is scarey, I think they must think that that's what us women are looking for. I know I'd rather be on my own forever than be with the wrong person again. :confused

starry
06-Jan-08, 13:55
I can't imagine living with anyone again, I love having my own space.

I do get lonely but when I think seriously about it I think I was lonelier when I was with my husband.

I like the idea of making new friends who are in same boat.

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 14:06
I can't imagine living with anyone again, I love having my own space.

I do get lonely but when I think seriously about it I think I was lonelier when I was with my husband.

I like the idea of making new friends who are in same boat.
I know how you feel starry. When I was with my ex I never used to see any of my family or friends and I never used to get out anywhere to meet people. It's great now being able to do the things you want to do when you want to.
The annoying thing is when people dont believe that you're happy on your own and go on and on about getting you set up with someone but the people who really know me know that I really am happy on my own. In fact I quite often think how lucky I am that I'm on my own.

DeHaviLand
06-Jan-08, 14:18
Are men happier being single? Not in my experience. They always seem to immediately want a relationship leading to living together - so they get someone to wash their socks maybe? Whereas most of the single women I know are happy living singly and don't want to change it. Personally I think "together but apart" would be great as you get older - I like my own space (as they say).




That's my experience too, badger. Most men I know seem in a hurry to replace their partner, and I think they're often looking for someone to fill a gap in their lives that they find intolerable. Women seem to take longer in general - after either separation or bereavement - to even consider the idea of a new partner.



Sorry ladies, but in my experience its been totally the opposite. It seems that every single woman I've met since I've been single has been looking to start a full-blown relationship leading to biding in/marriage/who knows what else.

Of course, this may just be because I am outrageously handsome, debonair and have sparkling wit and repartee. :rolleyes::D

Or maybe I've just been unlucky!

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 14:22
Sorry ladies, but in my experience its been totally the opposite. It seems that every single woman I've met since I've been single has been looking to start a full-blown relationship leading to biding in/marriage/who knows what else.

Of course, this may just be because I am outrageously handsome, debonair and have sparkling wit and repartee. :rolleyes:

Or maybe I've just been unlucky!Maybe we should try to set up the blokes Ive met with the women you've met. They'd probably get along great. I've not been to a wedding in ages. :eek:

Thumper
06-Jan-08, 14:24
Most of the time I think men say what they think we want to hear :roll:.....even if it is rubbish and we dont actually want to hear it ;) x

DeHaviLand
06-Jan-08, 14:27
Maybe we should try to set up the blokes Ive met with the women you've met. They'd probably get along great. I've not been to a wedding in ages. :eek:

Good idea, I have a very long list ;)

Last wedding I was at was my own, obviously learned a salutory lesson there.

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 14:30
Has anyone else ever had to "finish" with someone they've not even been going with? [evil] Some folk just cannot take a hint. :confused

DeHaviLand
06-Jan-08, 14:34
Has anyone else ever had to "finish" with someone they've not even been going with? [evil] Some folk just cannot take a hint.

We're finished? :~(

Torvaig
06-Jan-08, 14:35
Aha, have we missed on "on board" romance? :lol:

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 14:41
We're finished? RIGHT THATS IT, YOU JUST TAKE EVERYTHING I SAY THE WRONG WAY DONT YOU?? [evil] :lol:

paris
06-Jan-08, 14:45
Is this the partner with the carpet incident ?? connieb ?? jan x

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 14:47
Is this the partner with the carpet incident ?? connieb ?? jan x
Heck no, he never wants to see me again. :eek::lol:

paris
06-Jan-08, 14:54
Dont blame him really do you ?? lol jan x

DeHaviLand
06-Jan-08, 14:55
Is this the partner with the carpet incident ?? connieb ?? jan x

Something you want to spill the beans about Connie?

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 14:59
Something you want to spill the beans about Connie?hmmm no. [para]

paris
06-Jan-08, 15:04
No i would`nt either, your`ll go straight to the org jail ! jan x

angela5
06-Jan-08, 15:22
I can't stand the folk that assume single women who have male friends are sleeping together.

connieb19
06-Jan-08, 15:27
I can't stand the folk that assume single women who have male friends are sleeping together.Yes, people who assume people of different sex cannot be friends and there there must be more to it. Maybe they're judging by their own standards because that's what they're like themselves? :confused

angela5
06-Jan-08, 15:35
Yes, people who assume people of different sex cannot be friends and there there must be more to it. Maybe they're judging by their own standards because that's what they're like themselves? :confused

Aye, just cause some folk canna keep their knickers on they assume were all the same.[disgust]

paris
06-Jan-08, 15:35
Being a married woman if i talk to men when I'm out i get funny looks from partners/wives. My hubby never has had or would have a problem with me talking to the opposite sex and i wouldn't have a problem with him chatting either.
You are so right angela5 with what you say, it must be insecurity from the other partner as to why they make comments like that . jan x

Angela
06-Jan-08, 15:57
Being a married woman if i talk to men when I'm out i get funny looks from partners/wives. My hubby never has had or would have a problem with me talking to the opposite sex and i wouldn't have a problem with him chatting either.
You are so right angela5 with what you say, it must be insecurity from the other partner as to why they make comments like that . jan x

When I was widowed I got lots of offers of practical help from folk, but soon had to say "No thanks" because the most useful help was from men doing heavy work I couldn't manage...and their wives/partners did NOT like it at all.

I found it hard to believe -the very last thing on my mind was seducing their men -and it was very saddening to discover they had such a low opinion of both me and their partners. :( :eek:

scorrie
06-Jan-08, 16:32
Are men happier being single? Not in my experience. They always seem to immediately want a relationship leading to living together - so they get someone to wash their socks maybe?

Sock washing would be just about the last thing the guys I know would be looking for in a Woman!!

I am basing my assessment on the lack of males turning up at singles clubs. It would seem to me that, if men were desperate to get into a relationship, there should be far more of them showing up where there is a shop window full of like-minded ladies.

paris
06-Jan-08, 16:54
When I was widowed I got lots of offers of practical help from folk, but soon had to say "No thanks" because the most useful help was from men doing heavy work I couldn't manage...and their wives/partners did NOT like it at all.

I found it hard to believe -the very last thing on my mind was seducing their men -and it was very saddening to discover they had such a low opinion of both me and their partners. :( :eek:
Most embarrassing thing is when so called husbands of friends also come on to me. I hate it, don't quite know how to say clear of nicely without causing a seen . I'm no oil painting but because i talk to anyone and like a laugh some men take it the wrong way. jan x

starry
06-Jan-08, 16:57
That has happened to me a couple of times Paris, it is horrible being put in that situaion.
If have thought of having it out with him and putting them straight but I know he would tell his wife that I was just being stupid and he had been joking :roll:

paris
06-Jan-08, 17:06
Thats partly why i dont say anything now , it always gets turned around so it looks as if its my fault. If i wanted anyone else i wouldnt be married and weve made nearly 29yrs now . jan x

Gizmo
06-Jan-08, 19:38
Single Orgers??.....every occured that you're a Single Orger cos' you spend so much bloomin time Orging??...lol, just a thought :)

DeHaviLand
06-Jan-08, 19:42
Ever thought that we spend so much time orging, because we're in control of our own lives, and therefore we can?

badger
06-Jan-08, 20:17
That's what's so good about being single - we can do what we like.

It is true that married women view single women with suspicion - fine to be friendly with them but you have to be very careful with their husbands.

One thing that drives me crazy is trying to take holidays on your own. Why do singles get penalised in hotels and have to pay the same as two? Most package holidays are the same - look fine until you read the small print and the single supplement - and have you ever seen a holiday competition with a prize for one? I'd be happy to holiday with a friend but like my own room. I love trips to London but it's a nightmare finding somewhere to stay.

Apart from that - being single is fine :lol:

Fran
19-Feb-08, 03:02
Today in the general section there has been mention of 'AA' and a Father's Support Group, what about something for the single Orgers among us?


so when is this single ladies group going to get off the ground. when are we going to have a meeting???????????????????/

Invisible
03-May-10, 21:26
take it this meeting never occured?

sandyr1
04-May-10, 01:59
That's what's so good about being single - we can do what we like.

It is true that married women view single women with suspicion - fine to be friendly with them but you have to be very careful with their husbands.

One thing that drives me crazy is trying to take holidays on your own. Why do singles get penalised in hotels and have to pay the same as two? Most package holidays are the same - look fine until you read the small print and the single supplement - and have you ever seen a holiday competition with a prize for one? I'd be happy to holiday with a friend but like my own room. I love trips to London but it's a nightmare finding somewhere to stay.

Apart from that - being single is fine :lol:

Been on my own for a long time and do agree with your first comment..Freedom! Plus it allowed me to travel extensively with my job.
And in North America you pay for the room, not the the number of people, altho' sometimes a small surcharge( perhaps $10..00) if there is more than one.
'Tis a wonderful life!

horseman
04-May-10, 12:41
Thanks for relighting that one. It was a good giggle all over again.An as an incredibly very long time ever so happily married male- I dont' not got no input at all.:)

Fran
04-May-10, 15:02
Before I came up I registered on the .org and joined a group of Singles called Serendipity which disappeared long ago when the person who started it moved south (and is now partnered !). Trouble with these things is they're a bit like choirs - majority female. Why is that I wonder? Is it that women are better at being single than men and are happy staying that way? Doesn't make sense as you'd think there would be equal numbers. Or maybe men just don't want to join. Whatever, sounds like a good idea.


I remember that group. I went to meet them in mackays at one of their meetings but they were very cliky. I didn't go back. long after they disbanded i tried starting another group but no joy there.