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armanisgirl
17-Nov-07, 21:35
I just had this email sent to me by my mum. She's really not a fan of passing on emails, like the 'chain-letter' type ones that say you have to pass it on to at least 5 people etc, so I know she sees this as a serious issue. (I say this as I know there are some out there who will slate me for starting this thread, as has been done to others in the past. My opinion is: if it is a real scam and it saves others from losing money, everyone should let everyone they know about it. If you don't like the thread - don't read it!!!!!!)

This one is pretty slick since they provide YOU with all the information,
except the one piece they want.

Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it.
This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA &MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.

One of our employees was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and
I was called on Thursday from "Master Card".
The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is
12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name
of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a
Marketing company based in Arizona ?" When you say "No", the caller
continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a companywe have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"

You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting a
Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800
number listed on the back of your card and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"

Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says,
"I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you to "turn
your card over and look for some numbers". ; There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security Numbers' that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?"

After you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to
call back if you do", and hangs up. You actually say very little, and
they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on
Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad
we did! The REAL VISA S ecurity Department told us it was a scam and in the
last 15 minutes a new pur chase of $497.99 was charged to our card.

Long story - short - we made a real fraud report and closed
the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost too late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.
What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason Richardson of Master Card" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your family and friends. By
informing each other, we protect each other. (I think this originated in America, but if it is true, it's likely to have reached ourshores amongst many others)

JAWS
17-Nov-07, 22:01
I can confirm that Visa do not ask for any details from your card. About two weeks ago there had been an attempt to use details from my card to place bets with somewhere in America.
They told me what had been done and I confirmed that I hadn't made the transactions. They then quoted details of my last genuine transaction and confirmed we both were in agreement as to what that was.
Once that was done I was advised that they were putting an immediate stop on my card, told me to destroy it and that they would send a replacement which they did.
There was no mention of any details of my card and, other than the transactions, the only questions asked of me was to confirm my name and the first line and post code of my address to check they had the right person.

rockchick
18-Nov-07, 11:42
Like you, I've seen too many of the "scam warnings" but this one sounds worth passing along - it is very slick. Thanks Armanisgirl!