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RONI
22-Oct-07, 06:43
I am looking for information about my great grandfather JOHN SUTHERLAND.
According to the IGI he was born on 29 August 1847 at Golspie, Sutherland,
and was the eldest son of ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND and MARGARET MACRAE.
JOHN SUTHERLAND was married to MARJORY DUNBAR (DUNBARS OF FORSE) of
Latheron and they lived at WATTEN STATION. They had a son, possibly called ALEXANDER. Marjory died at Watten Station and he was listed on her
death certificate as being a Platelayer at the time. JOHN SUTHERLAND married her sister WILLIAMINA DUNBAR a while later and they emigrated to
South Africa in 1880 where he worked for the South African Railways.
JOHN SUTHERLAND at some stage returned to Sutherland, Scotland where he
died, possibly Lairg as that is where his parents are buried. WILLIAMINA
SUTHERLAND died and is buried at Pretoria, South Africa.
JOHN SUTHERLAND'S siblings were:

HUGH SUTHERLAND born 14 July 1849 Golspie, Sutherland

WILLIAM SUTHERLAND christening 10 August 1853 Lairg, Sutherland

JANET SUTHERLAND born 10 April 1862 Lairg, Sutherland

ELIZABETH SUTHERLAND born 10 June 1855 Lairg, Sutherland

JAMES SUTHERLAND born 28 February 1859 Lairg, Sutherland

MACKAY SUTHERLAND born 20 October 1860 Lairg, Sutherland:)

RONI
22-Oct-07, 09:13
Should read: Son of ALEXANDER SUTHERLAND and JANE ROBERTSON (of Loth,
daughter of JOHN ROBERTSON). Alexander's parents were John Sutherland
and Magaret Macrae.:D

Kingetter
22-Oct-07, 09:51
Roni, there seems to be a great deal of information about descendants, including this:

Alexandrina Sutherland was born in Caithness, Scotland, the eldest daughter of her parents John and Williamina (although she had an older half brother, born to her father's first wife, who died after childbirth).
Birth: 1879 in Latheron Caithness
Death: 7 Dec 1972 in Durban, South Africa

Are you most interested in descendants or ancestors of John?
You would appear to have connections to a lot of living persons, details of which should not appear here.

James.

RONI
22-Oct-07, 11:54
Hi James, Alexandrina Sutherland (married Crouch) was my grandfather
John David Dunbar Sutherland's elder sister. I am most interested in his
ancestors. Yes, I do have many Sutherland connected cousins around
the world, some known but most unknown. :DRoni

Kingetter
22-Oct-07, 15:24
Hi Roni,

On my 'travels' last night/this morning I dug up this info. Easier to show where than tell. Follow the 'thread' and there's far more data linked than I'd attempt to put on here. Best you look and select what you want.

I've done prt screens of the relevant pages, cropped & resized.
John Sutherland is at the bottom of image B. Click on that and explore. See you next week.


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/OpenandShut/Org/ImageA.jpg
(Image A)


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/OpenandShut/Org/ImageB-1.jpg
(Image B)


James.

RONI
22-Oct-07, 19:34
Thanks James, I have tried to click on the relevant Sutherland but it won't
open for me. I do however recognise the source - the information of which was
taken from my grandfather's death certificate, and not without some
inaccuracies such as my father's birth date. Parts of this information are thus
made on assumption. Many thanks
though for your efforts. Veronica:)

Kingetter
22-Oct-07, 19:46
Veronica,

I opened it a moment ago and copied this that I paste below. I can do more except I haven't time to do every connection from here - just look at some of what's below and see where you are with it.

ID: I2614
Name: John Sutherland
Sex: M
Birth: 1847 in Lairg, Sutherland 1 (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2614#s1)
Christening: 29 Aug 1847 Golspie Sutherland
Death: Unknown in South Africa
Note: Little is known of this person. He was an engineer who emigrated from Scotland to South Africa, where he was employed on the South Atrican railways. Somewhere along the way he seemed to dissappear ( possibly abandoned his family--- no one seems to know.) 2 (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2614#s2)
Occupation: Raillway Foreman 1874 Watten, Caithness

Father: Alexander Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2616) b: 1820 in Rogart, Sutherland
Mother: Jane Robertson (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2617) b: 1820 in Rogart, Sutherland

Marriage 1 Marjory Dunbar (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2607) b: 24 Feb 1846 in Forse, Latheron c: 24 Feb 1846 in Latheron

Married: 9 Mar 1874 in Wick , Caithness 3 (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2614#s3)Marriage 2 Williamina Dunbar (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2976) b: 1857 in Latheron Caithness

Married:Children

Alexandrina Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2977) b: 1879 in Latheron Caithness
John David Dunbar Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2978) b: 1881 in Colesburg, Cape, South africa
William Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2979) b: 8 Dec 1882 in Cradock, South Africa
http://img.rootsweb.com/wc/child_blank.gif Elizabeth Isabella Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2980) b: Oct 1884 in Colesburg, Cape, South africa
Marjory Mary Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2981) b: 1886 in Colesburg, Cape, South africa
Hugh James Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2982) b: Mar 1888 in Graspan, Caoe, South Africa
http://img.rootsweb.com/wc/child_blank.gif Jessie Ellen Julia Vida Sutherland (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=elizabeth365_1&id=I2983) b: Sep 1890 in Colesburg, Cape, South africaSources:

Title: GROS> Edinburgh OPR
Title: McMorland Family Connections
Author: Graham Mcmorland
Title: GROS > Edinburgh StatutoryPM me for further discussion.

James.

RONI
28-Oct-07, 12:11
James, I thought I would let you know that I have discovered that my
g,g, grandmother was MARGARET MACKAY and not MARGARET MACRAE as
stated on the IGI. This in turn has led to my correct family tree and the
opening up of more information. Many thanks for your interest. Veronica:)

Kingetter
28-Oct-07, 16:50
Thanks for that. Yes, I can see it making a big difference. I see a whole bunch of different surnames connected - that's what makes this so fascinating.