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botheed
05-Oct-07, 23:46
when i was a lad[long time ago]my dad and me went fishing alot around the rocks one of the fish he called a cud plucker what kind of fish was it?
:eek:

TBH
06-Oct-07, 00:01
I think it may either be an angle fish or a guppy.

http://photo.net/bboard-uploads/00GwOg-30594884.jpg .........Angle fish

Gleber2
06-Oct-07, 03:28
when i was a lad[long time ago]my dad and me went fishing alot around the rocks one of the fish he called a cud plucker what kind of fish was it?
:eek:
Used to catch fish which we called gun pluckers. Reddish, ugly with stinging spines. Could this be the same species?

johno
06-Oct-07, 10:53
I think it may either be an angle fish or a guppy.

http://photo.net/bboard-uploads/00GwOg-30594884.jpg (http://forum.caithness.org/go.php?url=http://photo.net/bboard-uploads/00GwOg-30594884.jpg) .........Angle fish
a pretty handsome chap, isnt he :eek:

Lolabelle
06-Oct-07, 12:35
Wow what an amazing looking fish [lol]

karia
06-Oct-07, 12:53
Haven't I seen him on Dr Who?:eek:

Is it edible or just for frightening the kids with?;)

karia

laguna2
06-Oct-07, 12:55
I think it may either be an angle fish or a guppy.

http://photo.net/bboard-uploads/00GwOg-30594884.jpg .........Angle fish

Jings! 8s wouldn't like to meet him if he was in a bad mood

botheed
06-Oct-07, 18:44
thank u for the pics, yes that is the one:eek:

northener
06-Oct-07, 19:02
Angler fish, better known as Monkfish!

Very tasty, didn't know you could catch them off shore.

karia
06-Oct-07, 19:21
Hi Northener,

That's what OH said when he saw the pics...monkfish!

I didn't believe they could be caught like that, thanks for putting me right!

karia

P.S. Have you seen the price of these things in the shops?.:eek:...You want to get fishing!;)

jambo
07-Oct-07, 00:03
looks more like a scorpion fish to me not a monkfish.

Jeemag_USA
07-Oct-07, 00:30
Doubt very much if it was Angler fish or MOnk fish, but it is possible, I hooked on in Scrabster Harbor once that was swimming on the surface, they are deep sea fish and I had assumed it had fallen of a boat coming in.

I never heard of Cud Pluckers, but like Gleber sais I used to catch Gunny Pluckers and Millers Thumbs in rock pools with my hands. Wonder if he was meaning a Cuddy, which has various names from Coalfish, Coalie, Cuddy, Sellag etc... pretty much the same as a Pollack but they go from white on the stomach to silver grey on the sides to coal black on the top.

DO you remember what the fish looked like and what kind of sizes were they.

I fished a lot around the rocks in Caithness and these are pretty much all the fish I ever caught.

Cod
Coalfish (Cuddies)
Pollack
Ling
Rockling (three bearded)
Conger Eel
Mackerel
Wrasse occasionally
Sea Bass
Dogfish
Tope (very rare, my brother caught one)
Plaice
Dab
Brill (once, caught in scrabster harbor)
Flounder
Scorpion Fish

I have also seen Skate caught from the shore in Caithness but not very often.

EDIT: I just remember Scorpion Fish after seeing Jambos post, god I used to hate those things, now they were all head and little tail, kinf od like an Angler fish, they were very spiny and I used to get some9one else to take them off the hook for me, ugliest fish around Caithness thats for sure. Maybe this is what you were catching, I used to catch them all the time when i was trying to catch something else, that and bloomin dogfish.

Picture

http://file035a.bebo.com/3/large/2007/10/06/23/2055488899a5751373499l.jpg

botheed
07-Oct-07, 10:02
hi! the pluckers we caught were in rock pools:Razzsome other fish we caught at the rocks in the sea.,pelltigs,celligs and dogfish. i once caght a monkfish.i never got the hook back

Anne x
07-Oct-07, 11:16
I used to fish of the pier as a child and caught sellags If you had a good day you caught several cuddies or a very random flukie

buggyracer
07-Oct-07, 11:41
the first picture is a not a monkfish.

DeHaviLand
07-Oct-07, 12:23
It is neither a monk fish, nor an angler fish, the two being very different species. The confusion may have arisen as the monk fish is often called an angel fish, or angel shark.
Maybe this is one of those occasions when spelling is important!

I'm not convinced its a scorpion fish either, as it seems too flat, but they do come in very many guises, so it is still a possibility.

peedie man
07-Oct-07, 12:36
I always thought the monk fish was also called the angler fish because they dangle a bit in front of their mouth,just like a angler

DeHaviLand
07-Oct-07, 12:49
I always thought the monk fish was also called the angler fish because they dangle a bit in front of their mouth,just like a angler

Thats precisely what an angler fish does, but it doesnt make it a monkfish. Just google image the two, you will see the huge difference.

The fish in the picture here has a similar appearance to a monkfish, but gill covers, pectoral fins and tooth structure appear to be completely different.

TBH
07-Oct-07, 15:38
the first picture is a not a monkfish.


It is neither a monk fish, nor an angler fish, the two being very different species. The confusion may have arisen as the monk fish is often called an angel fish, or angel shark.
Maybe this is one of those occasions when spelling is important!

I'm not convinced its a scorpion fish either, as it seems too flat, but they do come in very many guises, so it is still a possibility.It's not a monkfish, scorpion or an angler fish, it's an angle fish.

Monkfish is used as an English name of distinct number of types of fish in the northwest Atlantic notably the species of the anglerfish genus Lophius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lophius) and the angelshark genus Squatina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatina). The term is also occasionally used for a sea monster of the sixteenth century more often called a sea monk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_monk).,.........source wikipedia

northener
07-Oct-07, 15:41
Thats precisely what an angler fish does, but it doesnt make it a monkfish. Just google image the two, you will see the huge difference.

The fish in the picture here has a similar appearance to a monkfish, but gill covers, pectoral fins and tooth structure appear to be completely different.


You're right, looking at the piccie again, it's definitely not a monkfish. Completely different ( mental note, pay attention before posting ).

However, Monkfish are called Angler fish. That was the old name for them. It was changed to 'Monkfish', as a marketing ploy as it was felt that anyone seeing a picture of the Angler fish wouldn't want to eat it. Anybody remember 'rock salmon'? T'was dogfish....

The situation becomes more confused as there are many different types of Angler fish around the world. The edible version we are wrongly identifying here tends to inhabit cool, deeper waters, like the North Sea or the Atlantic.

DeHaviLand
07-Oct-07, 16:21
Where are you getting this information from TBH, and can you give me the scientific name for the angle fish? This thread has highlighted the very reason why scientific names were established.

Jeemag_USA
07-Oct-07, 17:35
when i was a lad[long time ago]my dad and me went fishing alot around the rocks one of the fish he called a cud plucker what kind of fish was it?
:eek:

Botheed. maybe it was a Millers Thumb, or Bullhead Fish, these are pretty common in rock pools in Caithness and I think they are also referred to as Gunny Pluckers

http://wildcrane.users.btopenworld.com/images/bullheadfish.jpg

scorrie
08-Oct-07, 15:58
Botheed. maybe it was a Millers Thumb, or Bullhead Fish, these are pretty common in rock pools in Caithness and I think they are also referred to as Gunny Pluckers


I caught several Cud Pluckers in the rock pools along from the North Baths when I was a teenager. From what I remember about them, I think they are probably Long-Spined Bullheads.

Pictured here:-

http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Terror.htm

The short-spined version is a good bit bigger and lives in deeper waters. The Cud Pluckers I caught/saw were always pretty small.

domino
22-Dec-07, 22:21
I think that cudplucker is a type of Blenny