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golach
02-Oct-07, 22:25
Have a look at these findings, and that is just in one city Edinburgh, makes me wonder where I can go and trust, even our old and trusted Co-op is tarred with the same brush as all the rest.[evil]

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1574582007

Riffman
03-Oct-07, 00:48
I never buy from supermarket deli counters, not just for that reason, most of the time it is an utter rip off.

2 quid for a tiny pot of potatos salad that I could make up from what is sitting around the kitchen?

Kenn
03-Oct-07, 01:11
Don't use Supermarkets, got wise to their rip offs some 20yrs back, it's a proper butcher for me, along with other reliable traders who don't disguise their produce.

oldmarine
03-Oct-07, 02:00
Don't use Supermarkets, got wise to their rip offs some 20yrs back, it's a proper butcher for me, along with other reliable traders who don't disguise their produce.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Lolabelle
03-Oct-07, 07:33
I agree that the hygenic practices are something to be concerned about, but I often wonder if we weren't all healthier before we got hygenic. Our bodies got to fight off a few germs and bacteria and we had more resistance to illness. Now we bleach and antibacterial everything and we are sicker than ever. Just my opinion. :eek:

laguna2
03-Oct-07, 08:39
You could be right there Lolabelle. We certainly seem to be more prone to picking up bugs and things these days!

Angela
03-Oct-07, 11:02
I haven't bought anything from a supermarket deli in years. I only buy meat and fish from local independent shops, where the quality of the food is excellent and the premises look scrupulously clean.:D

I agree with Lolabelle though - I think we have become obsessed with the idea of everything having to be unnaturally clean. It's another area of life where we seem to have lost all confidence in our own common sense.

I've stopped using all the latest antibacterial cleaning products because I'm concerned about the cocktail of chemicals in them.

There does seem to be a correlation between us keeping our homes unnecessarily clean and the rise in allergies in our society.

Or that's my excuse anyway! ;)

henry20
03-Oct-07, 11:14
Have to agree with Lolabelle and Angela, so I deliberately keep my house unnecessarily untidy :D

I'm as fit as a fiddle!!

:lol:

Geo
03-Oct-07, 11:25
These sorts of things are not unique to supermarkets. I know of a butcher in Caithness who used the same knife for cooked and uncooked meats when a friend used them. The biggest food poisoning incident in the UK was started via a "proper butcher," not a supermarket. I still use the butcher just as I still use the supermarkets however if I saw either make such a mistake I wouldn't accept it and would ask for it to be prepared again.

cuddlepop
03-Oct-07, 11:27
Living on Skye its difficult not to use the deli counter as there isn't much choice.Feel happier using it now as youngest workrd there in the summer and was complaing about the amount of cleaning they have to do.:lol:

Its vacumed packed loose meat and tinned potato salad thats your choice.
There is a butchers but....:eek:

marlyn
03-Oct-07, 12:28
Have to agree with Lolabelle and Angela, so I deliberately keep my house unnecessarily untidy :D

I'm as fit as a fiddle!!

:lol:


Me too!! LOL

karia
03-Oct-07, 12:34
Yep!

I am also with the 'moderately messy' brigade and my OH used to be an environmental Health Officer....what does that tell you?:)

karia

helenwyler
03-Oct-07, 13:09
Oh karia!

I had you figured as permanently swanning around in a pinny, with a feather duster in one hand, and a bottle of extra-strong bleach in the other!![lol]

How disappointing to find you as 'moderately messy' as myself!;)

Helen

karia
03-Oct-07, 13:20
Oh karia!

I had you figured as permanently swanning around in a pinny, with a feather duster in one hand, and a bottle of extra-strong bleach in the other!!

How disappointing to find you as 'moderately messy' as myself!;)

Helen

I'm more of a feather boa and bottle of extra strong gin really Helen....

...and when Stella MacCartney starts designing pinny's I'll think about wearing one![lol]

karia

helenwyler
03-Oct-07, 13:37
Never tried cleaning with gin, myself...would vodka work as well?;)

Helenx

karia
03-Oct-07, 13:43
Never tried cleaning with gin, myself...would vodka work as well?;)

Helenx

At a pinch!

Red wine however,....is a complete no no !:roll:

karia

Thumper
03-Oct-07, 13:45
At a pinch!

Red wine however,....is a complete no no !:roll:

karia

I love to cook with wine Karia.....sometimes I even put it in the food ;) x

karia
03-Oct-07, 13:58
I love to cook with wine Karia.....sometimes I even put it in the food ;) x

Me too thumper...but I find it's a devil of a job getting it back in the glass!:roll:

karia

wifie
03-Oct-07, 15:33
Never tried cleaning with gin, myself...would vodka work as well?;)

Helenx
Gin is great for cleaning your diamonds! He He

nanoo
03-Oct-07, 16:47
Wifie, Whisky is even better. I used to work in a bottling bond and every Friday we girls used to bring in the gold chains and rings we wanted to wear at the weekend and drop it in a capfull of whisky. Man oh man what a sparkle they had after that. By the way i always buy my butchermeat from a good butchers shop myself as well.;)

paris
03-Oct-07, 17:16
Unless you grow it your self or raise it your self you dont know what your eating and if you actually knew what was in a lot of food i tell you now you would never eat it again . Most of us are just lazy when it comes to shopping and buy " because its already made" Me included i have to say ! jan x

karia
03-Oct-07, 17:41
Unless you grow it your self or raise it your self you dont know what your eating and if you actually knew what was in a lot of food i tell you now you would never eat it again . Most of us are just lazy when it comes to shopping and buy " because its already made" Me included i have to say ! jan x

Hi paris,

I love cooking from scratch and prefer to source food from farmers' markets.

However the markets are only monthly here and most of our independant Butchers, fishmongers etc. have vanished in the wake of the large Supermarkets.

Falkirk now has 2 Tesco's, an Asda , a Morrisons a Co-op and 2 branches of Lidl.

We have only 2 independant Butchers and one Fishmonger to supply a reasonably large population.

There is a definate trend towards 'quality ' food of traceable origin which can clearly be seen by the numbers shopping at the markets.. but for most of the month we simply do not have a choice as the smaller, specialist shops have been priced out of business in the town centre.

This seems to be the future and unfortunately, it is heading your way!:(

karia

trix
03-Oct-07, 17:50
Never tried cleaning with gin, myself...would vodka work as well?


im rite intil cleanin wi alcohol...
im nearly always drunk when doin hoosework [lol]

an am prity sure that anything wil do, better til stick wi what ye lek tho helen...

an i never, as a rule, ever, do any ironin whatsoever, unless there is a bottle o vino open.
its law in ma hoose, an i live by masel so its me that makes up e rules an regulations ;)

karia
03-Oct-07, 18:09
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an i never, as a rule, ever, do any ironin whatsoever, unless there is a bottle o vino open[/quote]

Some folks iron without wine?:eek:

Are you sure??!!

If they are a registered Charity I'd be happy to donate a bottle or six..
.........No-one should have to endure that![lol]

Karia

George Brims
03-Oct-07, 20:20
Some folks iron without wine?:eek:

Are you sure??!!

If they are a registered Charity I'd be happy to donate a bottle or six..
.........No-one should have to endure that![lol]

Karia
When forced to do ironing (such as when hersel' is oot o' the country, or more especially, expected back the next day) the board is parked in full view of the telly and beer or wine is definitely involved. The ironing does get done. Not fast, but eventually.

karia
03-Oct-07, 20:59
When forced to do ironing (such as when hersel' is oot o' the country, or more especially, expected back the next day) the board is parked in full view of the telly and beer or wine is definitely involved. The ironing does get done. Not fast, but eventually.

Most civilised Mr Brims!

I caught OH ironing in front of old black and white DR WHO episodes today!

He asked ...........'do they all look like valerie Singleton to you.'??

'Heavens no' ':eek:..I replied


..maybe in the later episodes... I.then ran away, ...fast!!

...keep em keen![lol]








Kariaxx

Lolabelle
03-Oct-07, 21:12
Some folks iron without wine?:eek:

Are you sure??!!

If they are a registered Charity I'd be happy to donate a bottle or six..
.........No-one should have to endure that!

Karia

I don't drink. So to solve the problem of ironing whilst not under the influence?

I pay someone else to do it! :p

golach
03-Oct-07, 22:21
Never tried cleaning with gin, myself...would vodka work as well?;)
Helenx
Thank you for hijacking a serious thread and bringing it down to a comical level :confused

Lolabelle
03-Oct-07, 22:28
Thank you for hijacking a serious thread and bringing it down to a comical level :confused

Sorry golach, I succumbed to the diversion too.............
I apologise. :~(

karia
03-Oct-07, 22:59
Thank you for hijacking a serious thread and bringing it down to a comical level :confused

Threads are organic..they lead where they go and that Sir, is surely the beauty of them.

I was complicit in the humour and enjoyed a bit of banter..8 posts or so back I addressed the issue of farmers mkts and lack of small businesses .no takers..the thread had evolved into humour..Quelle Horreur!:eek:

it is like a child..you create it and nurture it..but it will go its own way and make its own friends..

Helen didn't hijack it..anyone was free to make serious or frivolous comments at any time....

I for one think she did you a favour by making it interesting enough to go on so long.

karia

golach
03-Oct-07, 23:11
Threads are organic..they lead where they go and that Sir, is surely the beauty of them.
it is like a child..you create it and nurture it..but it will go its own way and make its own friends..
I for one think she did you a favour by making it interesting enough to go on so long.
karia
Karia, thank you for setting out your .Org rules here are the real rules of the .Org
Nonsense Posting
This describes posts that are purely based on fantasy. We do not wish to see serious threads hyjacked by changing the main topic into fantasy nonsense. That is not to imply that humour is not allowed, as this is can always be added as an amusing aside. We simply wish to prevent sensible threads being spoiled.

Threads which begin as fantasy will be removed and the poster will receive 3 Infraction points, duration 3 months.

Threads that have been hijacked will be restored to a point before the nonsense began and the culprit gets 5 Infraction points, duration 3 months.

karia
03-Oct-07, 23:14
Karia, thank you for setting out your .Org rules here are the real rules of the .Org
Nonsense Posting
This describes posts that are purely based on fantasy. We do not wish to see serious threads hyjacked by changing the main topic into fantasy nonsense. That is not to imply that humour is not allowed, as this is can always be added as an amusing aside. We simply wish to prevent sensible threads being spoiled.

Threads which begin as fantasy will be removed and the poster will receive 3 Infraction points, duration 3 months.

Threads that have been hijacked will be restored to a point before the nonsense began and the culprit gets 5 Infraction points, duration 3 months.

So you will be charging helen with what?

unwarranted humour?:roll::roll:

that'll make you popular!

karia

golach
03-Oct-07, 23:22
So you will be charging helen with what?

unwarranted humour?:roll:

that'll make you popular!

karia
Karia, I will not be charging anyone with any thing, I was merely informing, as to being popular, I am well know for not being bothered about being in the popularity stakes :mad:

karia
03-Oct-07, 23:50
It was far from fantasy nonsense golach!

no witches and warlocks..faeries and goblins..just tips on the 'washing up'.:confused

Most of us find that a kind word and a little humour make for a nicer world

Karia

golach
04-Oct-07, 00:02
It was far from fantasy nonsense golach!
no witches and warlocks..faeries and goblins..just tips on the 'washing up'.:confused
Most of us find that a kind word and a little humour make for a nicer world
Karia
Sigh!!! Karia, with respect, how can a thread about the unclean Supermarkets, have any thing to do with Gin, Vodka, and Red wine and Ironing?
Washing up was never in the equation, as serious issue concerning hygene in supermarkets is not IMO a subject of levity. a kind word and childish humour only detracts from the serious issue.
If you wish humour and levity, may I resepectfully suggest you stick to the Jokes Humour and Games Forum.
We grown ups would like to discuss serious issues.

karia
04-Oct-07, 00:12
Sigh!!! Karia, with respect, how can a thread about the unclean Supermarkets, have any thing to do with Gin, Vodka, and Red wine and Ironing?
Washing up was never in the equation, as serious issue concerning hygene in supermarkets is not IMO a subject of levity. a kind word and childish humour only detracts from the serious issue.
If you wish humour and levity, may I resepectfully suggest you stick to the Jokes Humour and Games Forum.
We grown ups would like to discuss serious issues.

That'll be why you showed such fulsome interest in my reply dealing with the inability to source local produce and maintain Fishmongers and Butchers in a High St situation due to the high rates they attract.;)

Nice to see you addressing the important stuff![lol]

Kx

Lolabelle
04-Oct-07, 08:53
I thought I would address the important stuff.
See new thread.... [lol]

helenwyler
04-Oct-07, 09:48
Wow! What a kerfuffle in my absence:eek:!

Firstly, I am admittedly a light-weight airhead at times. Apologies to all posters I have offended. My wrists are slapped; my vacuous smile has faded.

Secondly, I shall address the original (but not grumpy) purpose of the thread. It had already moved in an anti-bacterial/cleaning direction before my diversion, so if it's alright, I'll respond to that too.

My father always used to say that you need to be exposed to germs to build up a resistance to them. I like to keep things clean, but am not paranoid about cleanliness, and do not use antibacterial cleaners, except for handwashing. Hands are in constant contact with mouths, noses etc. and are therefore primary sources of contamination.

I do not buy from supermarket deli counters, not because I'm afraid of germs, but because the containers are left uncovered for long periods of time, even though they are refrigerated. I would never put anything in my fridge uncovered, and therefore do not buy products which are exposed in this way.

Helen