View Full Version : The Big Tesco Opinion Poll, you decide...
OK, we have heard all the arguements for and against Tescos coming to Wick, now here is our big chance to see if we think it is good for Caithness.
Please vote, the more the merrier...
champagnebaby
09-Jul-05, 23:31
Results speak for themselves i'd say
captain chaos
10-Jul-05, 08:52
Perhaps the MSP Eleanor Scott should have checked your results before speaking on behalf of the people of Caithness. I doubt if she even asked anyone before telling the press that no one in Caithness would want a Tesco Store
Perhaps the MSP Eleanor Scott should have checked your results before speaking on behalf of the people of Caithness. I doubt if she even asked anyone before telling the press that no one in Caithness would want a Tesco Store
yeah 46 people is a lot!
captain chaos
10-Jul-05, 12:08
46 more than zilch,zero,nadda,none [lol] [lol]
in def all for it, how could you not be, cheaper fuel, cheaper food, more variety, electrical products too and the list goes on.
changilass
12-Jul-05, 00:00
Having worked for Tesco in the past I can also vouch for the fact that they are a good employer, the whole package is built around training and multi tasking, the more things you can do the higher you get paid and there is also an opportunity to get shares.
the whole package is built around training and multi tasking, the more things you can do the higher you get paid .
Guys! oh Guys? The end of the road to our socio-economic dominance I see in the offing, we were never ever good at multi-tasking!! :lol:
Ach well, I betta do those dishes..."yes dear"
I am surprised at the one percent vote - why on earth would some one who doesn't live in caithness be against Tescos coming to caithness?
I've asked this before but I don't think I got an answer. Does anyone know for sure the size of the Tesco store that is planned for wick. People are talking as if it's going to be one of the big stores like the one in Inverness. Are you sure it's not going to be one of these Tesco Extra stores?
I am surprised at the one percent vote - why on earth would some one who doesn't live in caithness be against Tescos coming to caithness?
Maybe it is Lorraine Mann.
There's at least one bug in the code for doing polls on here. The current state of the vote is:
Do you welcome Tescos in Caithness?
I live in Caithness and I am for Tescos in Caithness 86% [ 95 ]
I live in Caithness and I am against Tescos in Caithness 2% [ 3 ]
I don't live in Caithness, I am for Tescos in Caithness 9% [ 10 ]
I don't live in Caithness, I am against Tescos in Caithness 1% [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 110
3/110 is just under 3%, not 2%;
2/110 is just under 2%, not 1%.
I would guess that someone rounded down instead of rounding to the nearest integer. :eyes
Unsurprisingly, the bug has been pointed out previously. (http://www.snes9x.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=11354&)
I am surprised at the one percent vote - why on earth would some one who doesn't live in caithness be against Tescos coming to caithness?
Personally, I'm against the expansion of Tesco, be that expansion into Wick or Warwick... but then we've been through this before. :roll:
peter macdonald
15-Jul-05, 16:35
Ah the 1% It must be someone who owns a petrol station methinks
Has anyone read this week's Groat re Tesco and the long moaning letter in the letter's page? I have heard the same arguements over and over again. Wick traders said the same about the Continental market but they were wrong.
I am sure local traders think that we owe them a living. If they sell quality produce then they have nothing to fear. I have seen quality produce in local shops but there is a lot of rubbish as well.
I have seen quality produce in local shops but there is a lot of rubbish as well.
That's because (from a food pov) the 'rubbish' is cheaper for them to buy (important if they are competing with the buying power of a supermarket) and has a longer shelf-life (important if they don't have the turnaround of stock that a supermarket would have). It's also because we are more interested in the immediacy of a bargain than the long-term importance of the global food-chain... as many of the arguments in favour of Tesco clearly demonstrate.
Has anyone read this week's Groat re Tesco and the long moaning letter in the letter's page? I have heard the same arguements over and over again. Wick traders said the same about the Continental market but they were wrong.
I am sure local traders think that we owe them a living. If they sell quality produce then they have nothing to fear. I have seen quality produce in local shops but there is a lot of rubbish as well.
I've just read the front page of the groat and can't believe it! Quote; Tesco opening could hit thurso the same way as lidls opening hit Wick; unquote. Alan McIvor goes on to say how depressed the centre of Wick has become and blames Lidl's. What a load of crapp! Waht are the shops that have closed and their reasons? Aliance and Leister building society???? McKay's butchers, (the man retired but his business was good) Hob nobs -(Shut in Thurso too) McKenzie's funriture store (moved location - premises is now a blythwood shop) Dominos nightclub (burnt to the ground) None of the above sold groceries or cheap electrical equipement. I would chalange Mr McIvor to get his facts right before he makes such statements!
~~Tides~~
15-Jul-05, 20:08
So if the butcher trade is so good why did nobody buy the business? Why can't Polson sell his?
~~Tides~~
15-Jul-05, 20:09
BTW. Walk down Dingwall high street and speek to some people, then make your mindy up. I did. [disgust]
I'm absolutely convinced that competition amongst the bigger supermarkets in a given area has the effect of making the "everyday essentials" more affordable. The effect is to make more money available for the average person to buy luxuries (and for many people good quality, local food falls into that bracket) and so the local specialists in all areas of retail tend to thrive.
If you're a specialist retailer who isn't selling good quality, then to be totally honest you're not a true specialist and your business will suffer.
We should also consider how many people currently go to Inverness once a fortnight/month and spend £2-300, none of that money will make it's way back into the Caithness economy; at least with a Tesco in Wick the salaries they pay will be spent locally; yet another way in which other businesses are boosted.
So if the butcher trade is so good why did nobody buy the business? Why can't Polson sell his?
Simple, to buy a butchers shop you would need to be a butcher (or at least willing to train very quickly), if you are a butcher you've probably got your own business, therefore why buy another one?
It is also very unusual for a small business to be sold as a going concern, most people start businesses partly for the satisfaction of being able to say "I built this up from scratch", so a ready made business doesn't have the same cache' and is probably out of reach financially.
peter macdonald
16-Jul-05, 11:32
The sound of local traders in Wick town centre bemoaning Tescos has become very tiresome .As things stand a lot of people drive to Inverness and do huge shoppings twice a month.That money is lost to the county....
If Tesco attracts people to Wick (along with Homebase etc) to shop then it just might be that those same people will use some of the local services as well .This may just stop the drain of money out of the county and give a slight boost to an ailing and neglected local economy
As for the local shops in the town centre of Wick . They are either specialist or niche market shops ie.Harolds (specialists) ...Sports shop (niche)..Turners(niche) Gunns (specialist/niche)and the bakers in Bridge Street (specialists)
The rest of the shops are chain stores or charity shops
peter macdonald
16-Jul-05, 11:34
Sorry ,,,,and mcallans Another specialist shop
Personally, if there was a shop that sold truly organic produce, then I would spend my money there. We don't have such a shop. I am not the only one who has remarked on this. Also if I cose to make a special dinner from scratch - I can't buy a lot of the ingredients locally.
Another shop we could do with is a specialized boutique. who wants off the peg clothes that everyone else is wearing?
The drapers tried to stop MacKays coming. I wasn't around at the time but I guess there was a few grey hairs about Woolies.
Oh, and both Mr Polson and Mr MacKay's butchers were busy and doing well. Butchering does not seem to be a trade that young men gravitate towards, unfortunately.
In fact there seems to be a shortage of tradesmen full stop around this part of the country.
Specialise, sell quality produce and a run of the mill supermarket won't affect you!
Naefearjustbeer
16-Jul-05, 23:10
When tescos come the only shop that will suffer from lack of use by us will be somerfields, We will still buy our meat from the butchers and fish from the fishmonger rolls from the bakers, eggs will be local free range as usual,They all provide quality food that a supermrket cannot compete with. However when it comes to tins of beans, tomato soup, frozen food, bog roll and washing powder etc I know that tesco will be a better option. Bring it on the sooner the better
[mad] i am fed up reading objections in the 2Press and Journal" about Tesco coming to wick from people who live outside Caithness. It will bring jobs to the town. A Tesco worker told me they pay high wages and their shelf fillers are higher paid than in any other supermarkets. I hope the Planning committee wont refuse it again. Surely it is up to the people, not a committee. There should be an election!
champagnebaby
17-Jul-05, 03:21
I am surprised at the one percent vote - why on earth would some one who doesn't live in caithness be against Tescos coming to caithness?
Exactly! :roll:
Does it matter what we think anyway??? If it's coming it's coming and we'll just have to see how it goes, no point sitting on here greeting about what might happen. :roll:
Personally i'm sick of hearing about it and i wish it was here and that was that [mad]
Over 2000 views of this topic and only 128 people have voted! That's an awful lot of people sitting on the fence - watch it doesn't snap under the strain!
sorry to bring this one up again, but it seems Inverness has the same problem of shops shutting in the centre because of shopping malls. Or can we blame the malls? Small shopkeepers in Inverness centre, like Wick and Thurso, have to pay extortionate rates. Lower the rates and small shops will be able (just) to exist. so basically - we have the council to blame - not the multinationalists. If they must get money in, tax those who can afford it!
Dispatches. Channel 4. Right now.
"Supermarket Secrets" - should be interesting. :eek:
cullbucket
29-Jul-05, 13:35
Over 2000 views of this topic and only 128 people have voted! That's an awful lot of people sitting on the fence - watch it doesn't snap under the strain!
Or maybe the same people are re-reading the thread - I just checked by going round in circles and put another 5 views on to the counter.....
Cullbucket - I think you are right ..... there are less than 2000 members but more than 2500 views of this topic and almost 5000 views of one of the London topics - some chiels are just in and oot for a deek....
Just shows you - there are lies, damned lies and statistics, for all we know, maybe nobody wants a Tesco in Wick.... who can really say for sure....?
webmannie
29-Jul-05, 17:14
Went to Tesco Extra in Abingdon whilst away on business, spent over £200 on clothes for myself and 22 month daughter this trip. Even had to buy a bigger case (28" roller one with a handle @£9.97) to take the stuff home on the plane!!
I can honestly say, 'rock on Tesco's, let's be havin yah'
Mind you me and my colleague looked like Tesco Twins when we went out for nights on the town with our new Tesco clothes.
Imagine what it'll be like with everybody in Caithness wearing their gear!!
Bill Fernie
30-Jul-05, 00:18
Hereboy is right to question statistics. However I would point out that anyone can view the message board withut being member. So far in July visitors have come from over 54,000 sites. Since each site can have many people looking in - say for example - Highland council, North Highland college or UKAEA each of whom may count as one site but have hundreds of users of their PC's counting as one site. Whilst it is possible to go ain and ut it is unlikely many folk will return to one topic more than two or three times in one day unless they have short memories.
What I can say is that the message board posters are very small compared to readers. Stats for web sites are a fairly inaccurate but that is in both directions. For a huge number of reasons visits may be wrongly counted but there are also many reaosn why visits are not counted at all. I have never yet seen an exact way of counting that takes account of the missed stats but most folk accept that there are likely to be many missed visitors in the stats. I suppose it is similar to newspapers that count readers as opposed to sales where perhaps there might be two readers for evey newspaper sold. No one cannot prove it but it is very likely and a newspaper in a waiting room might have dozens of readers. My wife often points out page on the Internet to me or vice versa but we are not counted only the PC is
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